mordorbund

I'm pretty sure it's in direct relation to how much money you send to Palerider. 

Yup, tongue-in-cheek. You'll see in that post another quote of an earlier post of mine. 2RM's proposal is really quite simple: 1) tax the uber-wealthy at a 4% rate, and 2) watch poverty go away. My post shows that the first part looks to be unnecessary. The rich are voluntarily giving more than needed. 2RM is insistent that his plan will work if only it was implemented. Well, it's implemented on a volunteer basis, but poverty continues to exist. I want to assume that maybe this simple plan doesn't work in reality, but I am told that it's the real deal. So if the plan works, and the rich are cooperating, then the only conclusion that remains is that the poor aren't cooperating.

Pretty sure that mordorbund's point was that the rich are already more than complying with 2RM's stated conditions, yet those obstinate poor just stay poor. If 2RM's conditions for the rich were sufficient to solve the problem of poverty, we wouldn't have poor people any more.

I can't quite tell; but I hope you're being tongue-in-cheek here.  I don't think there's a conscious decision amongst most poor people to stay poor.  Rather, I think they've bought into a culture that a) tells them they can never get ahead regardless of their own efforts or merit; b ) tells them that they should have more than others regardless of their own efforts or merit; c) actively denigrates self-sufficiency, d) trivializes or even denigrates the importance of self-denial and delayed gratification, e) glorifies sexual and family planning practices that ensure continued poverty; and f) holds education in utter contempt.
 
It's not a fully-informed, knowing and voluntary decision to stay poor:  at this point, millions upon millions--quite frankly--don't know any better.  Our leading lights in academia and the arts have been carefully erasing the public's understanding of what actually builds wealth; leading those who don't have wealth to throw up their hands and assume that it can only come from corruption or birthright.

IMHO:  "Free agency" and "liberty" are two different things.  Both are generally desirable, but for different reasons.

Just to round out the trilogy:
 

Why wasn't Darth Vader and the droids more steampunk?

In my opinion, God cares not one whit about whether we are scholars.

LOL!
 
Yeah, you may look like a girl but but behind those beautiful brown eyes lurks your real alter ego, should things reach that point: 
 
 

 
((( )))

Mordorbund, my friend, I have no church, no special spiritual home. That is part of the reason I am here, looking for something congenial. Meanwhile, all of Christianity is where I live.
 
Best, 2RM.

I'm up for this. I just see it a Christendom-wide project, rather than purely an LDS one.
 
Happy New Year, all. 2RM.

I disbelieve the idea that we do not need to live the law of consecration. We most certainly do need to live it. It's part of the covenants we make in the temple. It is as important as the law of chastity, and as applicable to us.

We dedicate all we have, all our spiritual and physical gifts, all our money, all our effort, to the establishment and building up of God's kingdom on earth. Everything we do is to further this end.
 
Naturally, this encompasses such things as paying an honest tithe, but is far more comprehensive. It means that we seek to be the best spouse and parent we can. It means that we fulfill our callings and seek to magnify them. It means we perform our daily devotions, repent of our weaknesses, go to the temple, be good neighbors, do missionary work, and otherwise center our lives around Jesus Christ and his kingdom, aka the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

It looks very much like fast offerings based in abundance and surplus and not just the abundance of a singular monthly fast.

I personally love the Pearl of Great Price and I love the book of Abraham. My wife and I read and studied the Pearl of Great Price and learned to love it even more. I hope more members take the time to read and study it.

I just read this earlier this week in the account of the Prophet's martyrdom.
 
 
Hyrum is also identified as Patriarch Hyrum Smith, so it sounds like they were contemporaries.
 
EDIT: and look - your copy even says it was done in Macedonia!

Something that I think is very much missing from this thread.  Everyone should have an attitude of giving.  The poor should be allowed and expected to give just as much as the rich.  What I would like to get away from is the idea that offering money is the best kind of giving.  In reality it is the worse.  We should give of our time and effort first.  And of our abundance of goods from our harvest next and lastly give of money.  Money being the least of value.  Those without much harvest or money should give freely of what they do have - time and effort.
 
This is why I love the LDS welfare programs.  There is no difference between rich and poor - both in giving and in receiving help.

I agree; this sounds like "Uncle John" Smith--Here's his Wikipedia article and here's an interesting Dialogue article on him.

Some tips about killing for the table.  You do not want to chase the animals around or get them excited.  That can create adrenaline that will dis-flavor the meat.  Move the chicken into a area where they can be easily caught.  It is best to make this a daily ritual long before they are butchered so they are use to it.  Also it is a good idea to hobble chickens as a preparation.  Again this should be something a chicken is trained for so that the condition is not unusual.  Take the chicken to the butcher area genteelly.  Chickens will become memorized for a time with a line or a string.  Genteelly lay their head down on a block with a string perpendicular to their eyes.  One person calming the chicken - the other behind with the hatchet ready.
 
Once the chicken has bled out; drop the chicken in scalding water for a few seconds - 15 to 20 or so.  Then remove the feathers.  They will come out quite easily.  With the feathers gone you will want to finish the butchering by gutting the animal and removing all the organs leaving only the meat and bones.  Clean the animal by rinsing with water.  Also clean the kill area otherwise the smell will get much worse. 
 
You will now want to cure the meat by hanging the caucus in a cool place for about a day.  Do this right with an animal you have raised and cared for yourself - the meat will be unequaled.  Also when you gather your family for dinner and give thanks for your food - all those that were involved will be emotionally touched by that prayer and grateful for what is provided.
 
One last point - thought I do not intend this to draw anger but it is my personal belief that by being involved such in what you eat brings much more respect and thanks to a meal and tends to limit over eating and being indulgent or glutinous.

"That's why fur always wins out over feathers in my book" - anonymous
 

I wonder what Mary and Joseph did with the gifts from the wise mens? Did the gold go to a college fund? Was the frankincense and myrrh used to cover infant odors?

Yeah, what is a left-enant as well? Americans have solved this one :) lew-tenant makes so much more sense.

My intention was to compare the intensity of temptation Jesus experienced to that of a naive young man facing the same--NOT to imply that Jesus was naive.  His handling of the Pharisees, Saduccees, Teachers of the Law, Roman leaders, and even his own disciples, all suggest that Jesus was perceptive and most aware.

A surgeon, an engineer, and a lawyer were arguing about which profession was the oldest, and the doctor said, "Well, on the fifth day of Creation, God took a rib from Adam, so surgery is the oldest profession." The engineer said, "But, before that, God created the heavens and earth from chaos, so engineering is the oldest profession." And the lawyer said, "Yes, but who created the chaos?"