SpiritDragon

No one is inventing a definition. If a new car model were to role out would you take the marketing pamphlet as definitive of the car or would you take customer reviews? FORD: The Taurus is an excellent luxury sedan... blah blah. Customer review: The Taurus worked well for the first five years and than should have been traded in, Now I've paid it for it twice with repairs. Was the definition of the vehicle hijacked or was it exposed for what it is?

As usual it was not my intention to hurt feelings. Perhaps i should have used the word debate instead of argue? Whatever you want to call it, defending one opinion vs another is a form of argument. I don't mean it as a yelling match or such. My apologies once again for not choosing my words carefully enough. I suppose the main idea I was conveying is that I doubt my post will change your mind, but here goes anyway :) I don't disagree with you here, it is just that other possibilities haven't been entirely ruled out either. Truly though you make a really good point of what is likely the case. The problem with this is that every one has a breaking point. Will-power alone can only go so far. Many people who struggle with weight do so not because of a low breaking point, but because of increased pressure against the breaking point. Honestly think on how ready you are to eat after fasting for an extended period of time, sure a day or even a few more is okay to feel that hungry, but imagine feeling that way all the time... everyone has a breaking point. This can be fixed with wise food selection, but not by simply reducing the portions of the same foods that are causing irregular satiety.

I know better than to argue with you, I'd sooner see through a brick wall. So I'll agree to disagree, while stating my observation that there is more that goes into it all than you or I understand. There is certainly a trend towards the caloric energy balance equation working, but there are many researchers out there with interesting anomalies they claim disprove this idea. I also understand what you are saying about the technicalities of calories in and out not being simple, which I can agree with. I also won't discount the idea that all of the other research may eventually come back to calories in vs calories out, but with unaccounted for ins and outs. There is a physical hunger response to activity to varying degrees that is a physical event, and it makes sense that the body would increase hunger in response to increased workloads to avoid withering away. Writing those who struggle with weight off as undisciplined is a common thought process that is deserved for some, but not for others. It is easy to see some one as undisciplined because they continue to eat past their caloric needs, when they should just stop eating. Perhaps for you it is a matter of passing up some pie and ice cream when you know you've already had enough/too much to eat. For some it doesn't work this way because of messed up satiety signals, there are people who can stuff their face all day and still feel like it's fast Sunday because the filled up message is not getting delivered. This is however almost universally a consequence of choosing the wrong foods. Sadly for some this is still not a self-control issue as much as it is a lack of education issue compounded by the diet industry which continues to confuse people with all manner of fads to appease certain food preferences with empty promises and a food industry set on addicting us all to there wares.

I read years ago about a doctor in the 1920's who took patients into his clinic and put them on a controlled diet with as many calories as they said they were eating... everyone lost weight.

I understand it this way: We will all be sealed together as a great big family of Adam and Eve, a massive family reunion. The Lord's work and glory is to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man. We cannot be saved without our kindred dead. We all work to do missionary work for the living and the dead to bring this family together. We will all see past present and future together through a grand urim and thummim, time is irrelevant. However as far as our mortal understanding is concerned it may still be most accurate to say that we spend the majority of our socialization with our spouse(s).

As a health and fitness professional I get to delve into research on obesity fairly often as well as work with people struggling with weight on a near daily basis. I can assure you that for most portion control alone does not work. It is far more complicated than calories in and calories out. Although this is a fundamental element to whether or not people gain weight it is not the end of the story. There are multiple factors to consider outside of calories in and calories out. First of all as anatess mentioned it is more important what is eaten than how much, especially when referring to the volume of food. This is because hunger is set up on a feed back loop that is complex in its involvement of nutrient levels, hormone levels, and signals from stretch receptors in the stomach itself. Thus if you eat foods that have more bulk to them with less calories you'll be doing better than eating tiny portions that pack a caloric wallop, but even if you ate a food that is voluminous but is lacking in nutrient density it only meets one of the requirements to signal satiety. Beyond that you have physical conditions such as low thyroid function, adrenal fatigue and so on that can predispose certain individuals to weight gain. Some of us are blessed with naturally more fidgeting that burns more calories all the time while others are cursed with bodies that are always in energy conservation mode (would be a blessing in a starvation situation). These are only some of the physical side, never mind the mental/emotional aspect. Exercising more can also be a two-edged sword. There are people who are considered non-responders to various types of physical activity. For some long bouts of aerobic activity will stoke the flames of fat burning and for others it simply stokes an increased appetite that overcompensates for what the exercise tried to accomplish. High intensity interval training has been shown to be more effective for most individuals, but the biggest problem here is that it requires already being at a certain level of fitness that the obese individual isn't at. I don't want to be misunderstood here as saying that diet and exercise don't work however, because they do. But it isn't always as simple as it seems.

Hijacked or merely exposed I'm not sure, but I prefer anti-sexist myself because it encompasses treating both genders with equity. Feminist sounds like female supremacist, which it can often seem to entail. It simply seems by nature that a feminist would be in opposition to a masculist which doesn't even seem to exist... but if it did a feminist would call it a chauvinist; you can see how these things get warped.

I think it is a sad state in society when being friendly is automatically considered as having an ulterior motive. Perhaps we would all get along better if we were allowed to have friendly and meaningful conversations... alas we are left to talk about the weather and celebrities because everything else is too controversial for discussion.

We love to go camping in our minivan, but we've never really taken it anywhere I'd consider very "off-road," the closest thing to that being driving down fields-with-tire-ruts on-either-side type roads and somewhat rough dirt/gravel roads. I really shy away from large puddles because it is hard to tell how deep they are. During the winter the traction control works wonders in drifted snow piles.

My wife and I have absolutely loved our odyssey. We bought it when our car was written off after my wife was broad-sided around five years ago. It does almost as well for gas mileage as our previous cavalier did and we love having the room to throw stuff in and go. Ours is a 1999 model and hasn't had any thing major go wrong (Knocking on wood) in it's 15 year life. As for the power doors they can be as much of a nuisance as a blessing at times. They are real slow which means if you have multiple stops and kids want to jump out quick and return that they won't work so well, and the vehicle needs to be in park for them to open and close so you can't just pull over and open the doors and be on your way. These are generally minor things though as long as you remember them. More annoyingly they can sometimes get the sensors dirty and think they can't close. In a pinch you can switch the doors to manual mode and close them by hand until you can get them cleaned. All in all I think it's a great vehicle.

Bing004 I am sorry to hear about this trouble you and your husband are having. I have a firm testimony that the Saviour wants you to be happy and is there to support you. I'd like to shift the focus of the discussion a little and hope you find it helpful. The way I see it there are a few things here for you to deal with. Men like to feel attractive, wanted, and needed just like women do. It is likely that your husband being upset is coming from a place of not feeling as valued as he did before, he is no longer perceiving himself as being needed to complete you. I also want to make it clear that this is not unique to same sex attraction. If I were to let my wife know that I am more attracted to other women than her it would be a devastating blow as would the inverse be on me. Sadly this kind of thing can develop a lot of the time as couples age and physical appearance diminishes and waistlines grow. Of note is the fact that there is more to a lasting relationship than physical attraction. What other qualities does your husband embody that you fell in love with in the first place? Focus on things like that and let him know. Make sure he feels loved and needed and respected. Also be sure to let him know you need the same in return. Do not allow your temptations to define you and your relationship.

Argentina is by far the best. Italy is a distant second and all the rest are brutal.

Interesting stuff here guys. I'm personally very much in the literal camp. Not saying I don't see allegorical elements, but why would we all be subject to the fall if we were not all descendants of Adam? I believe Folk Prophet has made some valid points as to the veracity of Adam existing as a real man so I won't spend much of this post defending that position. I also find the idea of God using evolution to make man an interesting one and perhaps even a possible one. I even had the same thought as Seminary Snoozer that perhaps "death" couldn't happen in the doctrinal sense until the breath of life (spirit?) entered into man, so it couldn't be separated. The problem I have with this conclusion is that all things were created spiritually before they were created physically, so it doesn't make sense to have the order switched at some point to reconcile "mans" understanding of history. I have heard some contend that Adam most likely was only the father of the hebrew nations; how else do have other races? Well of course I don't know how, but I believe the Lamanites being marked shows that God can create a new race when he wants to. As for some evidence we have of things I can see how it can be easy to misinterpret findings. For instance suppose a house is built with wood framing and after several years some renovations are being done and the owner notices termite damage. It could be easy to conclude that termites have infested the house at some point. However it doesn;t have to be the case, the house also could have been framed with termite damaged wood from the lumber yard that was treated to ensure the termites were dead and causing no further problem. We have the same conundrum with Earth. It was made of matter unorganized, brought to order. Whether dinosaur bones were from Earth or some previous creation we don't know. Whether bones that appear to support evolution are actually "missing link" types or simply bones of individuals that adapted to harsh environments or had developmental disorders we just don't know. Take for instance gigantism or down's syndrome; could there be other such conditions that would make the appearance of a different skeletal structure that we could make fit the paradigm of evolution because that is what we're looking for? Perhaps these same conditions no longer exist and we have no point of reference. As for the age of man and animals and Earth, again I first point out that the elements the earth is made of are older than the earth itself. Secondly, I suggest that methods such as carbon dating can be wrong for determining the age of matter. I don't have a specific reference but I recall reading in a national geographic as a teenager about an area that carbon dating showed stuff to be thousands of years older than it was based on other corroborating evidence to place the era the stuff was made. It was thought to be because of volcanic activity. My point is that if we can be off by thousands of years over the course of a couple centuries, could we not be way off over the course of 6,000 years?

Just an observation, and a very general one at that, but guys seem to be more okay with loose apparel that gals would consider "dumpy" or "frumpy," but to a guy it covers him up and that seems to fill the purpose of clothing. Now I am not saying that men are inherently slobs or cannot be fashionable, nor am I saying that there are not women out there that are just as happy to wear ill-fitted over-sized clothing. I'm just noting an observed trend I've perceived. As an example in the gym I often see guys coming in with large T-shirts and sweat pants to grunt it out while the ladies all seem to opt for tight fitting tanks and yoga pants. Both can hit the showers and head back out into the world looking well-dressed, but lots of guys seem more concerned with function and possibly cost than fashion... far more so than the ladies. Anyway I thought this might (but might not) help explain some husbands being more okay with running around the house in their garments. They are less concerned with feeling like they need to look a certain way (especially at home) that seems more deeply ingrained in the female psyche.

This whole topic amuses me because of how backwards it seems. When I went through the temple for the first time the temple president talked to me about propriety with the garments and how it is important to respect them and keep them sacred by keeping them covered... even when no one is watching. Of course this is not to be taken to the extreme that one could not put the garments on without another layer of clothing to cover or anything like that, I really feel that it comes down to your personal relationship with the Lord and covenants made. In any event my temple president did say that I should not lounge around in garments, but to cover up. I guess the short version is that in my opinion it is disrespecting the garment to hang out without covering them up.

My inclination is to say that Mr. Berger spends a lot of time battling about CrossFit and is adept at his craft. It is true that most certs do not have educational prerequisites which is why I advocate looking for them in addition to certs. I can't speak to ANSI vs NCCA. In Canada the "gold standard" is certification through the Canadian Society for Exercise Physiology (CSEP) which has two certification paths. The CPT (certified personal trainer) designation requires a two year diploma in the exercise science field in addition to passing a written and practical exam. The CEP (certified exercise physiologist) designation requires a minimum of four years to get a kinesiology degree that has to cover specific elements, thus it can't be just a bachelor of arts in kinesiology, but an actual kinesiology focus to ensure core competencies before sitting the exams.

I agree, but you have also just agreed that it can be construed against the word of wisdom. It certainly doesn't have to be, but the general leaning is certainly there.

I can agree that certain renditions of the paleo diet are closer to the word of wisdom than the traditional american diet of processed junk, simply because it involves an aspect of stewardship over your body. But how can you deny the fact that the Paleo camp is very anti-grain and the word of wisdom specifically asserts wheat for man. The word of wisdom also appeals to the use of meat in moderation (largely open to interpretation), which can be done on a paleolithic diet, but isn't the general take home message.

I'd simply call it friendly advice :)

You might really enjoy it. Just be sure to go at your own pace. It is also a good idea with any exercise program to look into what education the instructor has above and beyond being certified in a particular system.Even so, book learning isn't everything and if she doesn't have any it may be forgivable if she has years of experience in the trenches, especially if she attends courses and conferences to update her skill-base. I would just stress waiting until you feel really comfortable with highly skilled exercises like the olympic lifts before banging out reps to exhaustion trying to set time records. Also take time to recover between work-outs (i.e. don't try 5+/week out of the gate). Have fun.

I suppose it depends on a bit on your interpretation of "fair." I believe that for God to be a God of both Justice and Mercy that indeed everything about the plan needs to be fair. Therefore I submit that yes it is fair. But I do have questions surrounding the concept; As DHK mentioned salvation is one thing and exaltation is another, will these individuals have opportunities to learn and grow into exalted beings or are they left to be ministering angels for eternity. Would this opportunity take place in the millennium? Back to fairness... it is so hard to know how things all relate one to another. Is it fair that their mortal life was cut short? Fair that they never experienced romantic love and marriage? Did they already prove some superior valiance in the first estate and just needed a body? I'm just glad that I am not the one who has to sort it all out, but get to trust that God is truly perfectly just.

I actually don't have a cell phone because I like to be inaccessible, the problem is getting everyone else to deactivate theirs.

My breakfast routine usually consists of putting a banana with frozen mixed berries in my vitamix with a little unsweetened almond milk and then I top it off with greens usually spinach or baby kale. I love my morning smoothies... I used to be afraid that the greens would ruin it, but they really aren't all that noticeable when you have rich colored berries to hide the green in a sea of purple. Sometimes when I don't want a smoothie for breakfast or I am missing a key ingredient I will chop an apple into chunks around 1 square centimeter each and mix them with chopped nuts such as almonds, walnuts, pecans and sometimes pumpkin and sunflower seeds. Then depending on my mood I will sprinkle this concoction with cinnamon or sliced strawberries and combine it all in one bowl with a little almond milk and eat it like cold cereal. In the colder winter months I am more inclined to eat oatmeal topped with chopped fruit such as apples or peaches, or sometimes just raisins or dates. I usually find adding nuts to this mix helps me feel like I'm getting more staying power and beneficial nutrients and taste along for the ride.

Interesting thoughts everyone. Great question by the way. My first thought is to say that the fullness of the gospel as contained in scripture is very much in line with what anatess has said. Essentially the gospel is the good news that Christ succeeded in His divine mission. This information is still contained in the Bible as well, but has been corrupted by creeds that the Lord has declared an abomination in His sight. In essence the text is still intact, but the understanding had largely been lost by the time Joseph Smith was searching for the gospel. The BOM clearly teaches the gospel's good news that Christ did indeed atone for the sins of mankind and conquer the grave. In both cases I perceive this as containing the message of the gospel, or the framework of the gospel, but not the fullness. So the question remains what is the fullness and where-in is it contained? As you have noted it is said to be contained in the Book of Mormon. Long story short... it is... Moroni 10: 3 Behold, I would exhort you that when ye shall read these things, if it be wisdom in God that ye should read them, that ye would remember how merciful the Lord hath been unto the children of men, from the creation of Adam even down until the time that ye shall receive these things, and ponder it in your hearts. 4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost. 5 And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things. 6 And whatsoever thing is good is just and true; wherefore, nothing that is good denieth the Christ, but acknowledgeth that he is. ... 32 Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be perfect in Christ; and if by the grace of God ye are perfect in Christ, ye can in nowise deny the power of God. 33 And again, if ye by the grace of God are perfect in Christ, and deny not his power, then are ye sanctified in Christ by the grace of God, through the shedding of the blood of Christ, which is in the covenant of the Father unto the remission of your sins, that ye become holy, without spot. In my opinion the fullness is only accessed through active participation. The fullness of the gospel (good news) of Christ is in the partaking of His atoning sacrifice. I believe the idea of the fullness of the gospel is often confused with the fullness of the doctrine, but they are separate entities tightly associated with each other. The Book of Mormon contains the fullness because it leads people to Christ. Not just to the idea of Christ, nor just to his teachings, but actually to the Saviour Himself. It does this by strengthening faith in Him and by building a testimony of His church wherein lies the only source of authority to perform saving ordinances.

I mostly spend my reading time in learning pursuits, especially health, exercise and nutrition. I get annoyed with poorly referenced regurgitated drivel about how bad the evil carbohydrates are and how especially vile grains are. When these author's do cite sources they tend to be misrepresented or inadequate. I hate this... a book can be great in many other points but I still can feel like stopping once they go off on the evil carbs. The biggest problem with this nonsense being there is no dispute that highly refined carbohydrates are nutrient poor, but when this gets extrapolated out into high quality fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and legumes it quickly loses all credibility as these are the most nutrient-dense foods available.