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That's what this thread is about. To change that.

That's what this thread is about. To change that.

What would you consider ample evidence? His Foreign Policy is supported by over 20 years of him saying and writing the exact same thing including his switch to the Democrat Party after it became apparent that Bush was going the way he doesn't want him to go on the War on Terror in 2002. People like Rush Limbaugh think he was "strategizing" when Trump excoriated Bush's foreign policy, especially Iraq, on one of the earlier debates. He wasn't strategizing, he hated Bush's foreign policy THAT much. So, if you like Bush's foreign policy... then I guarantee you, you will not like Trump's. But then, you wouldn't want Hillary's. His phase-out plan on Obamacare is already on the floor of the house. Paul Ryan is simply waiting for Obama to get out of office before he puts it on the floor for a vote. You must remember that Obamacare is the law of the land. The only way you can repeal it is if Congress gives the President the law that repeals it so he can sign it. So yes, the down-votes for House and Senate are as important as putting Trump on the White House. Hillary, you know for sure, will veto that bill.

So.... let me see... 1.) Ben Carson, Jeff Sessions (Tea Party bulwark in the Senate), Jeff Miller (House Veterans Affairs Committee), Jam Brewer (governor known for her fight for border security), and while we're on border security, let's mention the National Border Patrol Council, Virgil Goode (interestingly the 2012 Presidential Nominee of the Constitutional Party), Saba Ahmed (President of the Republican Muslim Coalition), Paul Vallely (highly decorated retired US Army Major General and author of The Blueprint for Victory on the War of Terror), Mark Burns (pastor and President of the NOW network), Jerry Falwell Jr. (pastor and president of religious Liberty University), Mike Huckabee, the National Black Republican Association, and Willie Robertson (the Duck Commander).... are a bunch of fools. 2.) Funny that you say that... Robert C. Oaks, first cousin of Dallin H. Oaks and a retired US Air Force General and General Authority of the LDS Church from 2000-2009... endorsed Trump. So, here we are with the same question... are you open to the possibility that you are wrong about the American electorate?

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How do you know that what he will do will be bad? What's your basis for such assumption?

Okay, it's time to really get serious about this. There was some woman that covered for Sean Hannity on his radio show a few weeks ago. I didn't catch her name but she asked a very important question that we need to ask ourselves... "Would you be open to the possibility that you are wrong about _______?". This was addressed to the NeverTrump and NeverCruz camps, with the question to NeverTrump asking about Cruz and vice versa for the NeverCruz people. Well, Cruz has suspended his campaign, so we're left with this question for the NeverTrump people - "Would you be open to the possibility that you are wrong about Trump?". This is what that question entails: 1.) Hillary will continue and expand Obamacare. Trump will repeal and replace it. 2.) Hillary will continue the economic direction of Obama including the primacy of alternative energy over existing fuel sources, the tax structure of the left, expanded welfare benefits including free college. Trump will primarily restructure all trade agreements starting with China, lower the tax burden especially on businesses but restructure the tax rate of carried interests to be the same as income tax and not capital gains tax that it is currently (i.e. "hedge fund guys"). 3.) Hillary will continue the globalist foreign policy of Obama that has caused the rise of ISIS and the events at Benghazi and retain, if not reduce, current levels of military resources. Trump will implement a revised America First foreign policy that effectively ends globalist principles and spend the money for a strong military. He will appoint an attorney general that will indict Hillary and Obama on Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and the private email server. 4.) Hillary will continue the current "open border" or "swiss cheese border" on the southern border and put illegal immigrants to the path of citizenship that will be eligible to vote as soon as 2020. Trump will beef up border security including building a wall and execute current immigration laws against illegal immigrants. 5.) Hillary will appoint leftist judges to the Federal Courts including the replacement for Scalia. Trump will appoint judges to the right of center. 6.) Hillary will continue funding of Planned Parenthood. Trump will suspend federal funding of Planned Parenthood until such time that they stop performing abortions. 7.) Hillary will continue and expand the federal Department of Education. Trump will push control of education back to local governments. 8.) Hillary will continue to put limits on 2nd Amendment Rights. Trump will not. 9.) Hillary will continue to put limits on Religious Liberty. Trump will not. 10.) Hillary will continue to divide the country into voting blocks - Black Lives Matter, War on Women, Class Warfare, etc. Trump will not.

If you haven't noticed... this election cycle is about going with political "outsiders". Kasich is as inside as Jeb. Now, as far as Kasich being moderate, he is to the left of Trump's policies on the campaign, Trump is to the left of Cruz. So, Republicans still want things to stay to the right. Rightly so. In any case, you're right Kasich would become President if he was the one facing Hillary. The only thing that can make Trump lose is the Republicans.

I get what you're saying here Vort. And if I may put in my 2 centavos worth. The reason that homosex is by some degree graver than hetrosex outside of marriage is because of the harder path of repentance needed to correct the course. In heterosex, the marital covenant - a desired path, even a necessary path - is a path to repentance without the need to break off the physical relationship. Therefore, even as heterosex outside of marriage is a path to darkness, at least it fulfills the commandment to be fruitful and the way forward is clearer - marry or stop the physical relationshp. Homosex, on the other hand, has only one path to repentance - and that is to break off the physical relationship outright. Homosex has no way forward.

My take on therapists... I haven't met one that helped me. I went through weeks of sessions and all we did was talk, talk, talk, talk, talk for hours... and then she tells me what I feel and when I tell her that's not it, she made the impression that she didn't believe me or that I'm in denial or whatever. And then told me I'm manic depressive and I need to try meds. Next therapist - same thing, talk talk talk talk and she tells me again what I feel... whatever. Anyway, what the therapists did do is ask some questions that I haven't thought to ask myself. But, I figured out how to cope with my "issues" without the therapist. It's a form of self-mastery that took me years and years and years to develop and even then I still get my "moments". Very rarely now, but it still happens.

Well. Growing up Catholic... celibacy is celebrated and is a mantle of holiness. As a Catholic, I used to think... martyrdom is silly. There's a lot of things I can do for my faith alive than I can do dead. Now that I'm LDS, I learned that there are lot of things still do after death. So, I guess it becomes - if one's choice is to live and cause people and oneself to leap farther from Christ or to die, then martyrdom is not such a bad thing, I guess.

Ella Enchanted. with my boys. i owe them. big time.

Well... NightSG seems to think it's because they're Wealthy. And that's why I said what I said. To think GAs find it easy to remarry because they're wealthy indicates one's view of women, and not necessarily one's view of GA's.

Because Nephi's dad is just cool.

Well, NightSG seems to believe they would not have chosen them had they been merely "worthy".

But then, it's not their worthiness to be GA that NightSG is pointing to... He is specifically pointing to their WEALTHY status.

Well, I hate to pigeon-hole people I don't know... but this statement may be the reason you're still single. You have such a... ah... funny?... opinion of women. Anyway, it's a low opinion and it's hard to find a mate when you think so little of them.

That's the thing about the gift of Free Will. We can never control what other people do... we can only control how we react to them. And that's the thing... that's always how we get into trouble. When we would rather control what other people do instead of controlling how we react to them.

Yeay! It was Fast and Testimony Meeting which can be really uplifting for an investigator or an inactive member or can be a full hour of cringe... Hope it was the uplifting kind for you! Tell us about it.

Maybe Bernie Sanders will rally for free Teslas for everybody.

Oh, but I love 2 Nephi. Loads better than Reading and Phonics: My English Book for Daily Use.

Well, all I got out of it was... There's always something people can complain about the Church when one wants to.

Crimson Peak Okay, I'm not a horror fan. I watched this because it has Loki. I have 2 actors that I have been following lately - Fassy and Loki (hah hah, what a fan, I can't even remember their real names without googling... okay, google says, Michael Fassbender and Tom Hiddleston). Anyway, both those guys are amazing actors. So yeah, I was hiding under a blanket the entire time but it wasn't really as scary as most - I love the storyline. It ended up to be really romantic.

Oh yeah. Loved that movie!