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    New Handbook

    Masturbation isn't even mentioned in the pamphlet specifically, and after reading that page I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. Do you feel that you have been taught in your life that if you masturbate you are evil and going to hell? That the only worse thing you could do is kill someone? That is simply not the case. Masturbation is a sexual sin yes, and is quite damaging because it drives away the spirit and can lead to worse/more sins, but it in and of itself is not the same thing as adultery. Adultery is the sin next to murder in terms of severity. With regards to page 36, and the verse referenced in Alma 39, Corianton was guilty of Fornication - a very serious sin. What's worse is that he was knowledgeable in the gospel, was at the time a missionary who held the priesthood, and drove people away from the gospel because of his actions. These factors compound the seriousness of his sin. It was much worse than masturbation, but still not quite as severe as adultery.
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    New Handbook

    Adultery is the sin next to murder. Adultery is sexual sin, but not all sexual sin is adultery. Masturbation for example is not a sin next to murder. Is it a big deal...yes, because it drives away the spirit and can progress to worse things. There is no one in the church teaching that youth (or anyone) who have a problem with it are akin to death row inmates. The same goes for fornication...a much more serious sin, but still not in the same league as adultery.
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    New Handbook

    Even if it is not "required", I have never known a Bishop to have discovered Adultery that did not convene a disciplinary council within the week. It is still considered a serious sin, places multiple families in jeopardy, and is a deliberate and major offense against the laws of God.
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    New Handbook

    Yep. One cannot abide a Celestial glory without being able to live Celestial laws.
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    Politifact is Fake News

    Also, rarely does anyone talk about how politifact cherry-picks what to fact check. Some democrats can say off the wall things that are a "pants on fire lie", but politifact simply wont fact-check it so they don't have to bring attention to the craziness of the person or party. Same thing goes for Trump...when he says something truthful they simply won't fact-check it which makes his overall truthfulness rating seem lower. Some people in my work office swear by politifact.
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    Impeachment question for experts

    Does no one actually read what's posted any more? Well...apparently not. Impeachment is not removal from office Impeachment is completely separate form a senate trial Vort, the House has accused Trump of wrongdoing. A formal accusation has been made. Holding a vote does constitute a formal accusation. The articles of impeachment voted upon are formal charges of wrongdoing. They are as follows: 1. Abuse of Power. 2. Obstruction of Congress. They DO NOT have to go to the senate to be formalized. If you disagree with me, fine. If you can show that I'm wrong, that's even better. Sorry my friend, but your mind already seems to be closed on this, and I cannot make it any clear either...so I will be leaving you and this topic with this in regards to Impeachment
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    Impeachment question for experts

    You missed my point. My correction is in what I posted. The house impeaches; the senate removes. He has been impeached as the house has accused him of wrongdoing. They do not have to send the articles to the senate to "confirm" or "finalize" or "validate" an impeachment.
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    Impeachment question for experts

    I despise cnn, but the president has been officially Impeached. Impeachment is not removing the president from office, but laying down charges meant to remove an elected official from office. The House can Impeach the President without any input from the Senate. However, only the Senate can officially try and remove a president from office, which happens after impeachment. In order to do this, they need the articles of impeachment from the house, which are akin to charges when a crime is committed. If the senate were to move forward now it is like a judge making a judgement in court without having any charges or evidence laid before them. A judge can't make you pay a fine without having someone accuse you of misconduct. The evidence will then be reviewed by the judge and you will be found innocent or guilty. The President has been impeached...but it really is moot at this point because it means nothing without a Senate trial, and she knows the senate will not move forward with removing the president. She moved forward with this for nothing more than grandstanding...it is the only thing she can do. Rallying her base who don't like the the president because his name is Donald Trump. They can now say he is an impeached president, which in their mind is a black mark, but really means nothing without a trial. Clinton was impeached, but not removed from office by the senate, and the democrats all point to this as proof that the right was just out to get him...she does not want this to be said of Trump. Methinks a trial will not happen this year, and pelosi will just sit on what she has continuing to say the president has been impeached and whining about other kinds of crap. She hopes that next year the democrats take over the house, at which point she will then send the articles over so a democratic controlled senate to try and remove the president. It won't happen that easily, but that is what she's going to fall back on as her plan B...assuming republicans don't win back the house of course.
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    Primary Activities

    They should have gotten this pamphlet and you should have gotten this manual. We handed them out at the beginning and end of president Ballard's meeting in October. Primary is considered "children", while the YM/YW are the "youth". https://www.deseret.com/2019/7/17/8936741/church-announces-replacement-for-boy-scouts-personal-progress-children-and-youth I would have linked to the church's website but it's currently blocked at my work. If the adults and children in your ward didn't get the pamphlet and leader guide to review at home then that's not good... It should also be available to print off online, but I would get your Exec Sec/Ward Clerk on that ASAP. We just called our boy's leaders last week and have had them talk to the current activity day leaders for the girls to get an idea of what they had been doing. This is a new area for the men as we've never really done anything with activity days. Before starting anything I would first make sure the kids actually have goals set. The children and youth need to understand that these goals aren't about making church like school...they need to learn that they can develop a relationship with the Lord, and that he wants to help them grow and develop in ways that are important to them.
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    Primary Activities

    2 times a month for us.
  11. Agreed. She doesn't always need to know the specifics, but she can't just find out in Sacrament meeting...it is terribly difficult to shuffle things around last minute. We never call or release anyone without letting the auxiliary presidents know that a change is coming and on what day. Sometimes we share the names, but most often we don't. Almost always we will first ask the president to pray and give us their recommendations before we make our move. Now, that being said, we did have to issue an immediate same-day release on a Sunday several years ago due to a crime being committed, and this person no longer being able to work with children/youth. That, along with a token few other situations, are the rare exception.
  12. This isn't about you or I being alienated. It is about the Spirit of the Lord. Who are you to say what does and does not alienate the Holy Ghost? If you do not know when you do or do not have his companionship then that is a problem.
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    Foreign interference in our government?

    Thank you. Spot on. Now for my socialism rant…there is no reason to think that God has a specific amount of blessings or material possessions that He will doll out equally 100% to everyone someday. You will not find any implication in scripture that any form of socialism will ever take place now or in the eternities. Any blessing we realize must be gained through obedience to laws. Saying at any point that everyone gets a participation prize was part of the adversary’s plan. One cannot abide a Celestial glory without being able to abide a Celestial law, and being forced to fall in line like socialism dictates prevents personal growth, and actually nullifies those promised blessings because we are unable grow the capacity to obtain them. Many people in the church today seem to think that when the church tried to implement the law of Consecration in the 1830’s, that it was socialism. And they think even now, that when spoken of in the temple, it refers to socialism…that we all need to be 100% equal in all things. Consecration is in fact much different. One of the main differences is that the right of private ownership is retained; neither the city nor the church nor the Prophet own anyone’s property. With socialism you have no say because you own nothing; you have no right to anything, and when you have no say you are unable to elect future leaders as well. You give them all the power at one point in time and then hope for the best from there on out…at least until an ugly revolution takes place. Say goodbye to free and fair elections with socialism. Monarchy is completely different from socialism as well, and although I prefer our current style of government, if I had to choose between the two, I would choose a king over socialism. Ultimately, the best form of government for us is the one that God has given to us for the time. In the past he has used both Kings and Judges. For us today, God had a hand in and revealed the Constitution of the United States. End of discussion really.
  14. I agree with your thoughts. President Monson often shared the following passage with regards to sin: "...Vice is a monster of so frightful mein, as, to be hated needs but to be seen; Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face, We first endure, then pity, then embrace." Alexander Pope, An Essay on Man With regards to the movie, (which I have not nor will ever be seeing) I believe the reason so many "film critics" gave it a bad rating is because I have heard it tried to go back to what Star Wars was supposed to be, yet still dabbled a little bit in the woke culture of the day. Dabbling is not enough...they want their message and views shown completely and openly. I saw TLJ and it was a big pile of PC...so of course the mainstream media loved it while the majority of true fans think it is the worst of the 9 main story films. Over the years I have gone to my home movie collection several times and removed those movies that contain bits of inappropriate material. I used to love collecting movies and had huge bookcases full of them like so many people do nowadays. I thought it was important and cool. But today that collection is down to less than 30. The rebuttals are always the same..."but, it only has that one scene...and we fast forward through it". Well, it's still there, and someday one of my children may watch it by themselves and not fast forward through it. If I kept such a movie what would that tell my children about my true views of the gospel? Do I really practice what I preach? I don't need or want filth in my home, so I got rid of it. Would you watch this entertaining movie with the Savior? Would he approve of it? On a different note, many of the individuals who profess to be gay that I associate with at work no longer see tolerance as acceptable behavior. They insist that others must accept their behavior to truly show them love and acceptance. It is not enough for gay couples to be "married" now, but they want everyone to embrace the behavior and promote it. Alternative views are not acceptable to them. Spiritually/morally speaking, they cannot stay in their own land and leave us alone in ours. This is exactly what Giddianhi once told Lachoneus: "...or in other words, yield yourselves up unto us, and unite with us and become acquainted with our secret works, and become our brethren that ye may be like unto us—not our slaves, but our brethren and partners of all our substance." With regard to the following quote, see my first post above. In coming days, it will not be possible to survive spiritually without the guiding, directing, comforting, and constant influence of the Holy Ghost. Russell M. Nelson
  15. The answer to your question is yes. "The standard is clear. If something we think, see, hear, or do distances us from the Holy Ghost, then we should stop thinking, seeing, hearing, or doing that thing. If that which is intended to entertain, for example, alienates us from the Holy Spirit, then certainly that type of entertainment is not for us. Because the Spirit cannot abide that which is vulgar, crude, or immodest, then clearly such things are not for us." David A. Bednar, Apr 2006 General Conference
  16. So the cost of doing family history work for some could possibly be rising. Is this just the greed of government, or is the adversary trying to frustrate the work? Or, is he just using greedy politicians to his advantage? He most certainly doesn't want to see us (especially the youth) succeeding in genealogy and temple work. Thoughts? https://www.ksl.com/article/46690098/its-unthinkable-romney-says-new-fee-could-raise-cost-of-family-history-records-by-500 (btw, this topic has nothing to do with Romney, just the topic he is raising concern about)
  17. I agree 100%, but also want to add that a person's "attractiveness" is subjective. For example, there are many models in the world today that I find quite attractive, and many who I do not. I don't just see them as average looking, but not physically attractive period, and I wonder how they got a job in the modeling industry. I often dated girls in high school and college that my friends found completely unattractive, and vice versa. It is nevertheless an important attribute to take care of oneself.
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    Church opposes anti conversion therapy bill

    This is from LDSFS per the Deseret news “Although well intentioned, the proposed rule as written will strongly dissuade many responsible therapists from providing much-needed therapy to minors,” the letter said. “That is especially true of therapists whose counseling respects the religious identity and faith perspectives of Latter-day Saints and members of other faith communities with biblically informed beliefs about gender and sexuality.” I am not an expert on this particular issue by any means, (I work in healthcare, but stay far away from mental health) but it seems to me that the church is worried that therapists will not be able to actually tell the child they are wrong; to be able to help them see that they were not "put in the wrong body". Rather, they will be forced to just go along with what the child is feeling and help them "transition" to whatever it is they want to do/be. Making a child believe that they are lgbtqmnop or whatever, when they really are not, is exactly what conversion therapy is...just from the other direction. The church is opposed to "abusive conversion therapy", whereas many on the radial left think that conversion therapy is anyone telling a person they are actually not gay, and not born that way. Therapists should not engage in abusive or harmful therapies, but they should be allowed to tell the truth.
  19. Scary thought, but it may come to pass if the radicals in this country have their way. Many of the evil practices detailed in the scriptures are not yet happening at large in the world today...the world is going to get a lot worse before it bets better. I was reminded of this quote from Joseph F. Smith yesterday while watching the broadcast video... "We expect to see the day, if we live long enough (and if some of us do not live long enough to see it, there are others who will), when every council of the Priesthood in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will understand its duty, will assume its own responsibility, will magnify its calling, and fill its place in the Church, to the uttermost, according to the intelligence and ability possessed by it. When that day shall come, there will not be so much necessity for work that is now being done by the auxiliary organizations, because it will be done by the regular quorums of the Priesthood. The Lord designed and comprehended it from the beginning, and He has made provision in the Church whereby every need may be met and satisfied through the regular organizations of the Priesthood." More and more responsibility for gospel learning is being placed on individuals and parents (especially Fathers). We need to buck up and be spiritually, as well as temporally, self-reliant.
  20. Exactly. I serve in the Bishopric in our ward, and with almost every family we can tell who is following the "Come, follow Me" program and who is not. Some of the youth I talk to have a different/new feeling about them as they are now in the scriptures more each week. Some homes and families, sadly, have not changed one bit, and are being left behind as others progress.
  21. Very interesting. I have never looked at Utah this way before.
  22. Yeah, marriage for Jews in Biblical times happened at much younger ages. Depending on the number of sisters between Nephi and his brothers, I have always viewed Sariah in her mid to late 30's when they left Jerusalem. I too loved the scenery. Good choice of location.
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    Canadian election

    I think you have missed the greater problem. I believe the greater problem is that Hitler and the German government (bureaucracy) were putting on a public persona that was a cover up and lie to many "things" that were kept secret and hidden from the public. Hitler was elected into power without a majority of voters and from those that did elect him - the fast majority did not know the extent and purposes of what was going on. Without a doubt there were mistakes made leading up to WWII. One of the greatest failure was the internment of (some - not even the majority of) Japanese. However, a lot is taken out of context. The Japanese were misunderstood. Having worked in Japan - life (culture) there is very different than here in the USA - I can give many personal examples. It is very easy to exploit such differences. But I would say this about Japanese internment - #1. It was done by a liberal, left wing administration. It seems to me that most often when this is brought up - it is mostly by someone with liberal leaning in an appearance of conservatives as though they were the only ones at fault. #2. The president was FDR - who was the grandson of one of the most powerful drug lords in the most powerful international opiate cartel to have ever existed - that had strong political connections in the USA and Europe. This drug cartel was the single greatest cause of the fall of Qing Dynasty which led to the rise of Communism in China. The reason I point this out is because a lot of information that is finding its way into scrutiny is somewhat filtered and only a tip of an iceberg. But I am concerned that so many do not understand the differences between the internment camps and the WWII concentration camps. There were some similarities but there is no more logic to the statement that the internment camps were basically concentration camps than to say you are basically a Nazi Storm trooper because you have more similarities to one of them than you have with an amoeba. Vietnam was a great mistake - but the reason is still not well understood in historical context. To understand - one must know about the Tyrannical system in Brazil - not a government system but an international effort of a small cartel to control the rubber industry. To make this short - Brazil was the only place in the world were rubber could be harvested. But then a French group smuggled some rubber tree plants out of Brazil and took them to Vietnam. The war in Vietnam was not about Vietnamese fighting against colonialism – It was about Communists China getting control of a piece of the rubber market. But the rubber market is not as important now as it once was and with the decline in the rubber market – that market has fallen apart and is no longer under cartel control but more subject to capital market operations. It is my opinion that the Book of Mormon warns us about the wars and violence that will be created in our time by secret combinations seeking power over financial markets, institutions of law (judges and lawyers), countries, and people in general. I do not believe the problem is about citizens wearing MEGA hats or other citizens hating MEGA hats - they are just the pons - the problem is in the power brokers (liberal and conservatives) doing unusual and unpeaceful things directed towards limiting liberties - especially free speech and the right to bear arms by citizens. The Traveler Very true, and I agree with the one-sidedness, which is why I like all laws to apply to everyone equally. If they only apply to certain people (a "disadvantaged group") then they are actually creating the very problem they are purported to solve. A rising tide should lift all ships. I agree as well with your view of the Book of Mormon. Also, the post you are quoting from is not mine.
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    Canadian election

    The problem with your response is it's length. It is that you, and sunday, and the majority of people on the left today are reading too much into things. You are making it more complicated than it needs to be. All 3 things are bad to do, but one cannot equate calling someone a name to punching them in the face - the latter is worse. The actions of those who followed Hitler and killed innocent people were worse than the words that he said in some speech. One cannot abdicate their own agency. You cannot say that his words made them do those things...that is the plan of the adversary. We are responsible for ourselves. (Hitler also killed many people himself though, including many other atrocities, so overall he is definitely the worse individual in my opinion) Too many people today have no foundation to stand upon when it comes to their beliefs, and are too mentally weak to tolerate a difference of opinion. Plus, they are full of pride, and so they must keep pushing forward on their position whatever the cost. So, they restrict the speech of others to make themselves feel safer inside their own minds, knowing full well that the reason they still feel so insecure is because their position is not rational...which is why so many on the left are also so angry today.
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    Canadian election

    I don't like throwing people out of boats either. However, that scenario you posed is in no way related to the question I did. If you don't want to answer the question that's fine, even though what you think is now quite obvious.