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I understand that. I thought twice about sharing it. But if a person who didn't make the choice can still feel like a worthless piece of gum, then imagine how bad kids who do willingly break the law of chastity can feel. False stupidy? Does the double negative mean she is smart? (PUNS!!!) I don't see this the same way you do. She felt worthless, then she says, even though she felt that way, she now knows she wasn't worthless. There are a lot of feelings that go along with the law of chastity. I get the impression you don't understand that. I don't think anyone is blaming anyone else. They are trying to help people understand how poorly taught parables can do more harm than good. No one is taking any fault away from the rapist. If she had been taught about self-worth and specifically about rape, she might have not had as much mental trauma. I don't see her interviews as attacks on the church or even the people. I see them as trying to educate people on how to better prepare. From the other stuff I read when it was fresh, she's done a lot more research than comes across in little article like the one I linked. She knows what she's talking about. Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean it's garbage. It's a small news article. The author isn't going to ask for support on a statement like this. If you wanted to, I'm sure you could contact Holly Mullen and she'd be happy to give you her sources or studies. Yes, those headlines are the epitome of click bait.

@The Folk Prophet You can't expect 12-17 year old kids to always pick up everything that's taught in a lesson, even if it's repeated. The chewing gum analogy 'works' because it's simple and something kids can relate to. But every time it comes up, I think of Elizabeth Smart. Teenage brains don't always (read rarely) work logically. I can understand most adults getting through it like you explain, but that's not who these lessons are directed towards. https://fox13now.com/2013/05/06/elizabeth-smart-i-felt-like-a-chewed-up-piece-of-gum/ Oh, and it would be great if we could all be MacGyver

The part with the new piece of gum isn't always included in the analogy. A chewed piece of gum has no value. No one wants it. Someone who has broken the law of chastity still has value, even if there are lasting consequences.

Do most baptismal fonts look like that? Las Vegas doesn't. It has two sets of stairs.

I really like the play Wicked. I couldn't stand the book though. It was....gross. NPH has never tried to convince me of anything. I feel left out. 😂

The percentage that is "very upset" is likely in single digits, if it even breaks out of the 1%. The percentage that is willing to answer a poll that they are very upset is probably higher, but I think it's a misrepresentation. My guess is 95% or more of people won't change their purchasing decisions based on Nike's politicized advertising.

Like books, I almost always prefer live musicals over movies. I like the atmosphere of going out, seeing different performers' portrayals of characters.

Kind of like your response in the other thread about Modesty that seemed to reference my post about the article having some good points.

That is a good analogy. A locker room is a place designed for changing clothes and showering. The media has invaded this 'private' place. It seems part of that is to capitalize on the lack of clothing. I guess there is some changing clothes at girls camp, but from what I've heard, not a lot of showering. I still don't understand if or why girls are dressed so immodestly that a point needs to be made to cover up when men come to visit.

I think there are some good points in the article. However, I think she swings the pendulum too far in the other direction regarding the reasons why modest dress is stressed. One can recognize that immodest dress can influence a person's thoughts without taking responsibility for the thoughts. The talk about girls camp got me thinking. Are the girls wearing revealing clothing the rest of the week when men aren't present? Shouldn't the leaders be stressing modest clothing regardless of who is there? But I can see her point that the way it is presented can influence how the girls view men, making them seem creepy or even pedophiles. It doesn't seem like a great way to establish a relationship with their priesthood leaders.

That was why I started my post with explaining what "being right" seems to mean some of the time and put it in quotes. I think the quote in the OP uses this meaning when they say that being kind is more important than being right. It seems to refer to interactions between people, not a state of being. I recall the many conversations I had as a missionary in the South with evangelical Christians about being 'saved' and other doctrines and concepts. I was 'right' but some of the conversations got fairly heated and I did no good by continuing to be contentious in my stance and Bible-bashing.

To me there is a difference between being right and choosing the right. I've found that sometimes when people talk about "being right" they mean that they want others to know or acknowledge that they are right. Personally, I think sometimes winning an argument is not as important as keeping a relationship.

When words hurt a person, words won't heal it. Actions will. You'll have to show her how you feel, instead of just telling her. I suggest figuring out what her Love Language is. There's an app my wife and I just downloaded called Love Nudge. It'll help both of you determine what makes each of you feel loved. Once you understand that, the app can help with suggestions and reminders of things you can do to express your love.

I had never put that together. Thank you for sharing this.

I think this thread is getting caught up on the word 'trauma'. I re-read the article. It says a couple times that addiction originates from a person's attempt to solve a problem. That problem is often something traumatic, but it doesn't say it always is. That was what I was alluding to regarding your caffeinated soda addiction. Your 'problem' was probably feeling tired, lacking energy, and you knew a chemical means to fix that problem, a way to feel better than 'good.'

I think visiting the local bishop is a great idea if you'll be there more than 3-4 weeks. He doesn't have your records, but he is the steward of everyone living in his boundaries, not just members of the church. While you are staying there, he is your shepherd. I also agree with @estradling75. Since you're on this forum, you have internet access, so you should be able to email your home ward bishop, or even call him. There are plenty of cheap or free ways to make international phone calls now. Glad to hear you made it a year with no slips and that you're working on cleaning up quickly.

The "trauma" was feeling tired, lacking energy. It was compensation for not feeling good enough. (Congrats on breaking it! It's on my list to work on) That's the thing, trauma is different for everyone and our reactions to trauma is different too.

I would guess that more than a few people would have been grateful if you had asked the question in the class after he said it.

I've had similar concerns. About 3-4 years ago, my kids got the "nourish and strengthen" phrase from somewhere. And they say it so fast it sounds like one word that they don't know what it means. So when I say meal prayers, I usually express my gratitude for the food, without asking for a specific blessing on it.

That was my favorite part

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I did. And I laughed, it was original. I was just moving on to the next joke.

Everyone knows why 6 is afraid of 7, but do you know why 7 ate 9? (Spoiler below) Because it was told it should eat 3 squared meals a day

I prefer "Nice belt!" but I like this answer too

What did Zero (0) say to Eight (8)?