Just_A_Guy Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 Before Natasha Richardson's body is even in the grave, CNN begins the drumbeat for ski helmets.I'm pretty sure that the genesis of the motorcycle- and bicycle-helmet-law movements were similar. It'll be interesting to watch this develop over the next few years. Quote
john doe Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 I'm not a skier, but I don't hear of this sort of thing happening very often. It's a big story here in ski country when a skier dies at a local resort. Are there statistics on the death rates of unhelmeted skiers as opposed to helmeted skiers? Quote
pam Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 I've heard that not only on CNN but it was on KUTV last night as well when reporting her death. Quote
Jamie123 Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 I feel so terrible for Liam Neeson, and all Natasha's family. It must have been a terrible shock for them all to have her torn away so unexpectedly. I'm sure the prayers of all of us are with them. Quote
Jbs2763 Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 its not a story when a skier dies unless she's famous... where was the uproar about clear cutting all the trees when Sonny Bono killed himself on the slopes? Quote
Canuck Mormon Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 This story lead the news last night, before everything else. It was only news because it was someone famous. It is a tragic story, but it should not have been the lead story. I remember never wearing a helmet when I went skiing, but that was 20 years ago. Even as a little kid. Even if you are wearing a helmet, it does not guarantee that you will survive. Quote
gabelpa Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 As a motorcyclist in California, I appreciated my helmet. As a skier in Colorado, I don't see the point. When you're travelling at 70MPH and the oncoming semi kicks up a rock that bounces off your plexiglass visor, putting a pit in it, you'll gain the same appreciation. The only time I could have done with a helmet was when I got on the wrong ski lift and wound up on a Black slope, rescued by the ski patrol after a bad fall. Some of my snowboarder friends wore helmets on the slopes,even before the Bono thing. Quote
john doe Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 According to the story I read, the use of helmets is up, but the use of helmets has no impact on the death rates of skiers. Also, they say that a helmet probably would not have made any difference in this situation. Quote
Moksha Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 "They will have to pry my cold dead head into a helmut" - National Skiers Resistance Movement slogan Quote
funkymonkey Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) If you've ever personally seen someone get injured because they weren't wearing a ski helmet...you'd be 100% for ski helmets. There is a reason why people wear helmets on the slopes. Protect your noggin, wear a helmet. You don't know what kind of idiot is going to crash into you like a linebacker.(I used to be on ski patrol...THERE IS A REASON FOR THEM) Edited March 20, 2009 by funkymonkey Quote
Heavenguard Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 Helmets will help for some, but not all injuries. That is true of any and all helmets. Someone I know got a concussion through a helmet, I'm sure it would have been worse without one. Alls I know is I wore a helmet when I went snowboarding this season (first time, learning), and my friend who's a seasoned vet who does jumps and tricks also wears a helmet. Quote
Just_A_Guy Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Posted March 20, 2009 If you've ever personally seen someone get injured because they weren't wearing a ski helmet...you'd be 100% for ski helmets.Yes . . . but not 100% for a nanny state. Quote
gabelpa Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 You need the tinfoil lined ski helmets for that one just_a_guy Quote
Just_A_Guy Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Posted March 20, 2009 Gabelpa, you seem to think the idea of government-mandated ski helmets implausible. Why? Quote
gabelpa Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 An essential part of a nanny state is the ability to read our thoughts. There are already a couple satellites able to do this for small areas, as well as vehicles with the requisite equipment. The only way to prevent this mind reading is with tin-foil around the cranium. If we were to include this tinfoil within the helmet, we could be safe while skiing, and have our privacy. Quote
Just_A_Guy Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Posted March 20, 2009 But seriously--why? You think it won't happen? Or you think it will happen, but we shouldn't care? Quote
gabelpa Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 Everyone complains about the nanny state, legislating good and safe behaviour. I've got bad news. We're already living in a nanny state. As soon as something for our safety gets legislated (seat belts, motorcycle helmets, reflective jackets, fall arrestors, safety on construction sites) that is the "Nanny" becoming stricter. Well, guess what, since the nanny state in the UK started legislating Health and Safety on construction sites, deaths and serious injury due to work place injury plummeted. Yes, the workers complained about nanny state, but more are alive and working now than there would have been if the legislation had not been passed. Although, it is still optional, but the employer gets in trouble if they don't provide the equipment, even if the employees decide not to use it. Quote
Just_A_Guy Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Posted March 22, 2009 Gabelpa, I'll take it your answer to my question is b). Quote
gabelpa Posted March 22, 2009 Report Posted March 22, 2009 My answer is C. We're already living in one, and have been since the first warning label was put on a product. Quote
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