beefche Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 Soul, they have a new women's top that is like a T-shirt--there is no line to provide "cups". My friend who is blessed on top as well, loves these new ones. I don't remember what they are called, but they are in a material similar to cotton (it may be cotton--I just don't remember). Check that out and see if that works for you.
Soul_Searcher Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 maternity hmm dont they have special flaps or something and a loose stomach? If not maybe I will try them. Ive tried the chemise ones, didnt get on with them either, they are wider and still shiny, and the cotton ones are thick and shapeless and like wearing a t-shirt.
Soul_Searcher Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 Thankyou beefche but I think they are the ones elgama was referring to. They are awful, probably the worst ones ive tried
beefche Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 Soul, have you tried calling the distribution center and speaking with one of the ladies there? They were really helpful to me once when I had to get a burial dress for my mom--she gave me lots of intimate advice that I hadn't thought of. Maybe (and likely) they've had these questions/situation before and can offer you some suggestions.
Elgama Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 maternity hmm dont they have special flaps or something and a loose stomach? If not maybe I will try them.Ive tried the chemise ones, didnt get on with them either, they are wider and still shiny, and the cotton ones are thick and shapeless and like wearing a t-shirt.no breastflaps they are the nursing ones which I find pointless - the tummy is a bit baggier but no more unfetching than the ordinary ones and generally more comfortable-Charley
Soul_Searcher Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 Thankyou beefche I hadnt considered that. I dont know what they can say that I havent already tried, but it is definitely worth a try. Thanks to you too elgama, I'll try that too :)
Wingnut Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 I was told to wear my bra over my garment. DMIL offered some advice on doing so comfortably, and it really hasn't been a problem for me.I'm currently using nylon mesh (gets HOT here in summer, and nylon does seem to stay whiter than cotton blends, plus being more durable), which is working.I have a different complication, which I'm moving to Open due to sensitive subject matter.DMIL?Haven't tried it. IIRC, it's similar enough to DriSilque that it would be about the same for durability and comfort in hot weather, and my experience has been that the nylon mesh really does do better for me on both fronts.I didn't like the Carinessa ones. Perhaps I had a size too small, but they just felt like they cut off circulation to my legs. A lot of people really like them, though, and they're great if you wear tight pants.maternity hmm dont they have special flaps or something and a loose stomach? If not maybe I will try them.Ive tried the chemise ones, didnt get on with them either, they are wider and still shiny, and the cotton ones are thick and shapeless and like wearing a t-shirt.The nursing tops don't have a bigger stomach...I think maternity tops have a longer stomach. Nursing tops do have flap openings, though.There are Drisilque chemise tops that have the rouching in the middle of the chest, and they're still shiny...maybe that's what you tried? I use a chemise top that is just plain t-shirt style, but it's the Dri Lux variety.To the OP:You may have to try different styles of fabrics in different combinations. There's no rule that says you have to wear the same fabric above and below. I wear DriSilque bottoms and Dri Lux tops. It's what works for me.When I was nursing my baby, I found it hugely inconvenient to lift my shirt, pull down my nursing bra, open my garment flap, and pull out my nursing pad, all trying to be discreet when I was in public. Even though I'm a D when I'm not nursing, I wasn't big enough to fill in a nursing top, so I went back to my old chemise style normal tops. I began wearing my bra against my skin. The garment laid even with the t-shirt or sweater I would wear, and it became easier, because I only had one layer to lift. Once my daughter was weaned, I tried to go back to wearing my bra over the garment, but then I remembered why I hated it in the first place: Now I had four boobs. So go over or under...whichever is more comfortable for you.There's also the issue of the time of the month. My mom once asked a temple matron if it was okay to wear panties under the garment during the time of the month. The matron's response was that if the garments are the most sacred clothing we own, and symbolic of such important ordinances, then wouldn't it be entirely appropriate to keep them as clean as possible?
applepansy Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 I honestly, truly do not have a problem wearing garments. Never have. I looked forward to the time I'd be endowed and could wear garments. When I was endowed they still had only the one piece. There were advantages to one piece garments. I didn't have to worry about tucking anything in. :) I like wearing my bra over with my garments next to the skin. That way my garments don't slide around and get bunched up. I'm a size 42DDD. I used to be a 32D...sigh ..... getting old is not fun. The chemise top does not work well for larger sized women....well not for me. The lady at the distribution center said most larger women don't like the chemise but the younger smaller women do. I bought one...I can see why. When I wear the chemise top I definitely have to have my bra over, it rides up. If you're having trouble with bra straps slipping try a different fabric. I love the Drisilk. Its warmer in winter yet breaths in summer. Now, when I don't have them on...I feel really uncomfortable. I realize I'm probably not the norm. I know others who have difficulty getting used to garments. As for the sexy part... well, my hubby took care of that issue, but this isn't the place to discuss it. applepansy
Soul_Searcher Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 pansy, I have tried all the materials and styles apart from maternity ones. Elgama said they dont have flaps but wingnut said they do. So Im confused now. Wingnut, yes I tried the drisilk chemise with a gathering in the muddle and didnt like them. DMIL=Dear Mother in law??
Jenamarie Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 Maternity tops are just longer in the front. It's NURSING tops that have the flaps.
Elgama Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 pansy, I have tried all the materials and styles apart from maternity ones. Elgama said they dont have flaps but wingnut said they do. So Im confused now.Wingnut, yes I tried the drisilk chemise with a gathering in the muddle and didnt like them.DMIL=Dear Mother in law??maternity doesn't have flaps but has bigger tummy, nursing have flapsbut normal tummy
marshac Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 Looks like Jenamarie crossed that finish line first.... oye... too bad there isn't a "hide thread" button.... now my wife will never want to go to the temple....besides.... life was simpler without knowing about "over/under"
beefche Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 Eh, Marshac, some people don't have any problems at all. I didn't...once I found the material I liked. That was just trial and error. Other people have issues with the garments...just something to get used to and adjust to. The only thing I had to really adjust to was some of my clothes...not all, just some. Things such as shorts, some summer tops, etc. didn't cover the garment. Now I know what to look for and try things on before buying them to make sure they are "garment approved."
marshac Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 I feel better now after that big sloppy cow lick Apparently those in the active military have "other" options.... military, here I come!
Dravin Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 I feel better now after that big sloppy cow lickApparently those in the active military have "other" options.... military, here I come!Unless I'm mistaken they're olive/green garments with the symbols printed on the inside instead of sewn, that way when they kick you out of your bunk or what have you you aren't displaying anything.
beefche Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 Unless I'm mistaken they're olive/green garments with the symbols printed on the inside instead of sewn, that way when they kick you out of your bunk or what have you you aren't displaying anything.I knew about the color difference and completely understand why. But why the difference in the how the symbols are placed on them? Who cares if they are seen? Anyone can look them up on the internet (no I am NOT advocating this) and I know some of my non-member family and friends have seen my garments (while doing laundry). I explain the symbols...not in detail, just stating that they represent my covenants and remind me to be good. Just confused and can't figure out why military garments would be that different.
Seanette Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 DMIL?Mother In Law. Usually, D means "dear", but that can be variable. (sort-of smile)
Wingnut Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 Eh, Marshac, some people don't have any problems at all. I didn't...once I found the material I liked. That was just trial and error. Other people have issues with the garments...just something to get used to and adjust to. The only thing I had to really adjust to was some of my clothes...not all, just some. Things such as shorts, some summer tops, etc. didn't cover the garment. Now I know what to look for and try things on before buying them to make sure they are "garment approved."The only problem I had at first (which lasted less than a week) was that I felt like I had two waistlines...where my garments sat, and where my pants sat. Now that I've gained weight, however, my waist is hard to find, and both pants and garments sit between rolls.
Dravin Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 I knew about the color difference and completely understand why. But why the difference in the how the symbols are placed on them? Who cares if they are seen?I'm assuming somebody in the Church who makes policy as I'm assuming they make them. Unless my memory is playing tricks with me thats what the LDS Chaplin (Kind cool, turns out he wrote a book that I owned) I ran into on my mission told (and showed now that I think about it) me*. As for why the policy is that way, I don't know anything official on that score.* I could have sworn he was wearing a green under shirt till the subject of garments and the military somehow came up and he rolled it up to show us they were garments.
john doe Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 When I got mine they had just introduced the two-piece garments. I never could stand the one-piece ones, but my dad wears them to this day. It took me a little while to get used to them, as I was not used to 'hanging loose'. I had a missionary companion on the other hand who felt very confined by them. It seems he was a cowboy from Kanab, and he had rarely worn underwear of any kind before going through the temple. As the years have gone by I have learned though experimentation which materials, sizes, and styles are more comfortable for me to wear. The more cotton-type seem to fit more snugly, and the synthetics seem to run a little looser but shorter on the legs, especially after a few washings. I can buy two different fabrics in the same size and they will fit completely different. I bought a pair of the new control fabric, and I couldn't stand to wear them, they squeezed me in unusual and uncomfortable places.
talisyn Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 I admit to being clueless about the ins and outs of garments, but can you sort of alter them a bit? I don't mean cutting them or altering the length, but maybe sew up a side-seam?
ladykemma2 Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) the church leaves it to you whether to wear the bra over or under. i get all tangled up with bra slippage through the course of the day. i started to wear the bra under and the problem was solved. also it took several years of experimentation to finally find which fabric and cut work for me. keep in mind that the old instruction for women was handed out when women wore corsets and the undergarment was worn under the corset, like a n old fashioned chemise. cotton too hot, stays sweaty. dry silk pants slide down. i sweat stain everything but the tropical weight nylon mesh. yuck. i adore and wear the tropical weight nylon mesh one piece. i sleep in the slippery silky one piece wide leg. Edited June 10, 2009 by ladykemma2
ladykemma2 Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 i wanted to add when we enter the temple, we make covenants (vows), just like a priest or nun takes their vows and puts on the habit of humility. it helps me to remember that our garments are just like a nun's habit or a priest's collar. very significant to me.
beefche Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 I admit to being clueless about the ins and outs of garments, but can you sort of alter them a bit? I don't mean cutting them or altering the length, but maybe sew up a side-seam?I honestly don't know the answer to that. I lean towards that it would be ok HOWEVER to do so I would imagine they have some very specific instructions on when and where to do that. I say that because we can make our own temple clothes (including the ceremonial clothing), but there are very, very specific instructions on what to use, when to make it, how do to it, etc. I've never done it, but have had friends make ceremonial clothing and they told me some of the instructions. So I would imagine that altering garments to fit better would have some similar instructions.
MarginOfError Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) I admit to being clueless about the ins and outs of garments, but can you sort of alter them a bit? I don't mean cutting them or altering the length, but maybe sew up a side-seam?I honestly don't know the answer to that. I lean towards that it would be ok HOWEVER to do so I would imagine they have some very specific instructions on when and where to do that. I say that because we can make our own temple clothes (including the ceremonial clothing), but there are very, very specific instructions on what to use, when to make it, how do to it, etc. I've never done it, but have had friends make ceremonial clothing and they told me some of the instructions. So I would imagine that altering garments to fit better would have some similar instructions.I think I will have to disagree. The Church Handbooks clearly state that member should not alter the Garment from its authorized design. Also, just for the record, members may not make their own Garments, nor may they make their own ceremonial clothing (except that they make make their own apron from a kit available from the Distribution Center. Edited June 10, 2009 by MarginOfError concern regarding quoting from copyrighted material
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