pam Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 It will be interesting to read future updates to see what they discussed.ksl.com - LDS Church president to meet with President Obama Quote
blusun7 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 I wish he didnt have to meet him but i know it is out of respect for our land and to show our side.There is an article of a prophet(i ll have to look) of where our prophet had to meet with elite people and he said that he felt an awful spirit with them and didn't want even shake there hand but he did to show our respect. Monson is a great man. If only the president really knew who he was talking to. Quote
lost87 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 blusun7....i really don't appreciate your post...believe it or not some of us LDS people actually support the president of our country and are appalled by attitudes like yours....where do you get the authority to compare President Obama with "elite people...that he felt and awful spirit with them and didn't want even to shake their hand"? Perhaps you ought to take President Monson's example and show a little respect as well rather than the "holier than thou" attitude? I'm sorry for the harsh words, but I am sick of mormons who suggest that our church is wholly against the president, because I am mormon and I'm not. Quote
pam Posted July 20, 2009 Author Report Posted July 20, 2009 I wish he didnt have to meet him but i know it is out of respect for our land and to show our side.There is an article of a prophet(i ll have to look) of where our prophet had to meet with elite people and he said that he felt an awful spirit with them and didn't want even shake there hand but he did to show our respect. Monson is a great man. If only the president really knew who he was talking to. Many of our past Prophets have met with the President of the United States. Why should this one be so different? Quote
boyando Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 I wish he didnt have to meet him but i know it is out of respect for our land and to show our side.There is an article of a prophet(i ll have to look) of where our prophet had to meet with elite people and he said that he felt an awful spirit with them and didn't want even shake there hand but he did to show our respect. Monson is a great man. If only the president really knew who he was talking to.I am glad that he is meeting with the Prophet of the Lord.When President Hinkley met with President Clinton, right after the US President had committed so many sexual sins, I felt like you did. I now know that I had to rethink what President Hinkley had done.President Monson is President for this great Church. But he is Prophet for the whole world. I am sure that through inspiration, they will find common ground. I just wonder if President Obama will uderstand that he will be held accountable for any advice given from the Prophet of the Lord? Quote
Moksha Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 ,, and to show our side. It is always handy to do a reality check, and remind ourselves that "our side" is a Church and not a right-wing political organization. :) Quote
Guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 I just wonder if President Obama will uderstand that he will be held accountable for any advice given from the Prophet of the Lord?Hi Boyando. Can you explain this a bit for me? My understanding is that you have to have personal revelation that Pres. Monson is the Prophet of the Lord before you can be accountable for not listening to his counsel? Quote
lilered Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 Hi Boyando. Can you explain this a bit for me? My understanding is that you have to have personal revelation that Pres. Monson is the Prophet of the Lord before you can be accountable for not listening to his counsel?Just a thought: Often times throughout Christiantity, the Lord has spoken through Prophets to civilian leaders. Example: Moses talking with Pharoh. If Pres. Monson, is inspired by the spirit to offer President Obama counsel, he will be held accountable if he chooses not to follow it. The Lords word is not spoken lightly. Quote
Palerider Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 It is always handy to do a reality check, and remind ourselves that "our side" is a Church and not a right-wing political organization. :) and were not a pinko commie lib left wing organization... Quote
Palerider Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 ....I wonder if Obama will have his teleprompter with him??????:o Quote
Moksha Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 I understand the meeting went very well and that President Obama was very grateful for the multi-volume genealogy book set he received from President Monson. He said he would be reading it to his daughters. Quote
bytebear Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 It is always handy to do a reality check, and remind ourselves that "our side" is a Church and not a right-wing political organization. :)You haven't heard some of the political speeches of Ezra Taft Benson, a former prophet of the church. They speak out against the exact policies and current actions of Obama. It's actually a little scary how he describes events 30 years prior to their fruition. Quote
pam Posted July 21, 2009 Author Report Posted July 21, 2009 ksl.com - LDS leader presents President Obama with family historyHere's an update. Doesn't really say much about what they talked about other than President Monson presented President Obama with his family history. Quote
MarginOfError Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 You haven't heard some of the political speeches of Ezra Taft Benson, a former prophet of the church. They speak out against the exact policies and current actions of Obama. It's actually a little scary how he describes events 30 years prior to their fruition.And there have been many leaders in the Church that would disagree with Benson. You kind of have to remember that Benson was an extreme case. In fact, the current practice of not allowing General Authorities to hold political office was put in place because of the problems that Benson's political involvements created in the Church. It got to the point that when Elder Benson was a junior member of the Quorum of the Twelve, at least one of the First Presidency hinted at disciplinary action because of Benson's actions regarding his political views.David O. McKay and the rise of ... - Google Books Quote
Hemidakota Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 It will be interesting to read future updates to see what they discussed.ksl.com - LDS Church president to meet with President ObamaPerhaps a warning... Quote
Hemidakota Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 ksl.com - LDS leader presents President Obama with family historyHere's an update. Doesn't really say much about what they talked about other than President Monson presented President Obama with his family history.I am interesting to read his lineage. Quote
Wingnut Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 I'm sorry for the harsh words,I'm not. Quote
bytor2112 Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) I wish he didnt have to meet him but i know it is out of respect for our land and to show our side.There is an article of a prophet(i ll have to look) of where our prophet had to meet with elite people and he said that he felt an awful spirit with them and didn't want even shake there hand but he did to show our respect. Monson is a great man. If only the president really knew who he was talking to.I am SO against Obama and Democrats in general.....not them personally mind you, just their economic policies, but I would consider it quite an honor if I had the opportunity to meet the President, regardless of his policies. Regardless of whether President Monson agrees or disagrees with President Obama, I bet he feels the same way. I don't get the sense that Obama is an evil man, he is just a misguided politician(IMO), but other wise seems like a good family man and decent human being. Edited July 21, 2009 by bytor2112 Quote
lilered Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 and were not a pinko commie lib left wing organization...I'm not so sure? Define Pinko! Quote
Guest Godless Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 You haven't heard some of the political speeches of Ezra Taft Benson, a former prophet of the church. They speak out against the exact policies and current actions of Obama. It's actually a little scary how he describes events 30 years prior to their fruition.I've heard them, and they reek of Cold War-era fear-mongering. It was unnecessary back then, and it's completely irrelevant now. Quote
Wingnut Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 President Obama meets with Mormon Leaders - Political Punch Quote
Hemidakota Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 I am glad that he is meeting with the Prophet of the Lord.When President Hinkley met with President Clinton, right after the US President had committed so many sexual sins, I felt like you did. I now know that I had to rethink what President Hinkley had done.President Monson is President for this great Church. But he is Prophet for the whole world. I am sure that through inspiration, they will find common ground. I just wonder if President Obama will uderstand that he will be held accountable for any advice given from the Prophet of the Lord?You know, only a few that I am aware of can touch a person and feel the soul of the individual. Even the emotions can be felt through this mere touch or hug. I am sure if President Monson shook his hands, there was allot more being told and felt than what was being given. As a prophet of the church, he is supporting the presidential office itself and may not always support the individual who stands in the office. As a prophet wants the best for this nation, as most of us do want the same when there are elected officials running our government. Quote
mlbrowninwa Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 Came across this quote of President Monson from 1988- Maybe all of our "leaders" need to have a meeting with President Monson! "In our time, when otherwise honorable men bend the law, twist the law, and wink at violations of the law, when crime goes unpunished, legally imposed sentences go unserved, and irresponsible and illegal conduct soars beyond previously recorded heights, there is a very real need to return to the basic justice that the laws provide when honest men sustain them. Coming as I do from the world of business, I also mention obedience to the laws, not theories, of economics. One cannot continually spend more than he earns and remain solvent. This law applies to nations as well as to men. A worker cannot, in the long run, adhere to a philosophy of something for nothing as opposed to something for something. Nor can management dismiss as optional the necessity of an adequate corporate profit and a reasonable return to shareholders if an economy of free enterprise is to flourish. When economic decisions are based on theory rather than law, we find the chaos experienced a number of years ago in Uruguay: “Labor wanted higher wages; industrialists wanted bigger income; but nobody wanted to do any work. Citizens thought more of their rights than of their obligations. The country’s vast web of social legislation redistributed wealth but did not create it. … Nobody had the vision to see that what Uruguay needed was production.” (John Gunther, Uruguay-Utopia Gone Wild.) One person of wisdom observed, “Laws are the rules by which the game of life is played.” In reality, they are much more; for obedience to law is an essential requirement if we are to be successful in our quest for the abundant life." Thomas S. Monson Kind of shows how long these things have really been going on. Quote
Jenamarie Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 President Obama meets with Mormon Leaders - Political PunchFound this little gem in the comments section (in regards to the Church providing Pres. Obama with bound books of his family geneology):What they failed to mention was that in return President Obama gave them 25 movies on DVD. Unfortunately, they were all rated "R" which of course Mormon leaders would not watch. Quote
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