MrsAri Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 Another thought... do you suppose that we, the taxpayer, paid for Michelle Obama's $500. pair of tennis shoes (which she wore to a charity event!)? Perhaps she wore our tax dollars on her ears (re $10,000 earrings)? How much of our tax dollars pay for their luxury vacations? What irks me more than anything is, as a Christian, I am required to fund abortion worldwide as part of the U.N. agenda for population control. BTW, according to Glenn Beck...don't enter the Cash For Clunkers site. Otherwise, the government will own your computer. Tax his house and tax his street...tax his shoes right off his feet!
rameumptom Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 My problem with the democratic party is that it isn't what it used to be. Vice president H.H. Humphrey was well known as a liberal Democrat. However, he strongly believed that money should be used cautiously and carefully, that it was sacred. Today's Democrats, as well as many Republicans, are only interested in getting reelected. I have no problem with a national health care program, but the one being introduced by the Democrats is so filled with sludge that it is no more stimulating than the stimulus package has been. Sam Nunn was a wonderful Democrat, who after leaving office, sadly noted that the Democratic party had left him. Ronald Reagan experienced the same thing, when the Democrats began embracing communist ideologies, rather than stand on the principles given them by Truman or JFK. Thomas Jefferson would not recognize his party anymore. Nor would he claim it.
pam Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 BTW, according to Glenn Beck...don't enter the Cash For Clunkers site. Otherwise, the government will own your computer. That was proven false:snopes.com: Cash for Clunkers
MrsAri Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 More on health "care"...Mitt Romney's Free and Strong America PAC - Romney: Liberals given too much say in health care - Associated Press
MrsAri Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 (edited) That was proven false:snopes.com: Cash for ClunkersThat's interesting...I watched Glenn Beck's video...he consulted with 4 different attorneys in regard to this matter.Incidentally, I don't follow snopes.P.S. Wow! I'm a senior member now. :) Edited September 14, 2009 by GrandmaAri
pam Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 But of course if Glenn Beck said it..it must be true.
MrsAri Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 But of course if Glenn Beck said it..it must be true.He's an excellent information source.
MrsAri Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 That's not my point. If you are going to post a link to a site as a great resource of what Prophets have said..don't also have it linking to sites that have an agenda. The links on that site had nothing to do with what was the original link was about. The original link was a book that was copyrighted in 1964. The link at the bottom shows an agenda..which is misleading. It's asking for support.How old is the Holy Bible, Pam? The Book of Mormon? God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. :)
pam Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 Seriously what does that have to do with the links at the bottom of each page? Links to another site which has an agenda?
talisyn Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 My problem with the democratic party is that it isn't what it used to be. Vice president H.H. Humphrey was well known as a liberal Democrat. However, he strongly believed that money should be used cautiously and carefully, that it was sacred. Today's Democrats, as well as many Republicans, are only interested in getting reelected. I have no problem with a national health care program, but the one being introduced by the Democrats is so filled with sludge that it is no more stimulating than the stimulus package has been. Sam Nunn was a wonderful Democrat, who after leaving office, sadly noted that the Democratic party had left him. Ronald Reagan experienced the same thing, when the Democrats began embracing communist ideologies, rather than stand on the principles given them by Truman or JFK.Thomas Jefferson would not recognize his party anymore. Nor would he claim it.I totally disagree. The Democratic party has been accused of being communist since communism was invented lol. It wasn't true then, it isn't true now. My question is: Would Abe Lincoln recognize his party in the Republican party of today?
MrsAri Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 Seriously what does that have to do with the links at the bottom of each page?Links to another site which has an agenda?I have no idea what you're referring to!
MrsAri Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 I totally disagree. The Democratic party has been accused of being communist since communism was invented lol. It wasn't true then, it isn't true now. My question is: Would Abe Lincoln recognize his party in the Republican party of today?President John F. Kennedy would take exception to your comment.
pam Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 Another wonderful resource:Prophets, Principles and National Survival You don't see the links at the bottom of each page that state:for more links on freedom issues visit Free Utahweb hosting provided by Kinfolk
MrsAri Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 You don't see the links at the bottom of each page that state:for more links on freedom issues visit Free Utahweb hosting provided by KinfolkNope...why would I look at those? I'm referring people to the source...which is Prophets, Principles And National Survival.Another wonderful resource:Prophets, Principles and National Survival
talisyn Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 President John F. Kennedy would take exception to your comment. I disagree
Grandmakabipbip Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 Wow this is a revealing thread isin't it? Way cool.
Grandmakabipbip Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 LOL... interesting how some suck up to your shoes and hang on ... LOL There are some great posters here though. I love Dove, Traveler, and those who put their minds to problem solving and discussion instead of harrasing and bullying. I think I might stay around and just respond to the intelligent kind people.
Just_A_Guy Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 I totally disagree. The Democratic party has been accused of being communist since communism was invented lol. It wasn't true then, it isn't true now. My question is: Would Abe Lincoln recognize his party in the Republican party of today?No. But it does not follow that Lincoln would ally himself with the Democrats, any more than it follows that Jefferson would ally with the Republicans).Neither of these guys had any compunctions about being involved with the formation of a new political party.
FunkyTown Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 No. But it does not follow that Lincoln would ally himself with the Democrats, any more than it follows that Jefferson would ally with the Republicans).Neither of these guys had any compunctions about being involved with the formation of a new political party.Just_a_guy? I'm going to agree with Tali on this point. Not that Lincoln would ally with any modern party, but that the Democratic party is unfairly demonized.As someone who is outside the political system, I always try to defend the underdog. On here, that happens to be the Democrats.I can't tell you how crazy some members are about the Democrats. I'm talking tinfoil hat wearing, twelve monkeys reading, two scoops of nuts crazy.
john doe Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 I can't tell you how crazy some members are about the Democrats. I'm talking tinfoil hat wearing, twelve monkeys reading, two scoops of nuts crazy. Must be Canadians or people with 'ari' in their name. The HP group leader of my ward is a democrat, hosts the neighborhood meetings in his home. He's not crazy, just misguided.
bytor2112 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 I can't tell you how crazy some members are about the Democrats. I'm talking tinfoil hat wearing, twelve monkeys reading, two scoops of nuts crazy.I like that description......but religious people tend to be conservative and this is a religious forum. Outside of here.....the Dems who hate Republican's could aptly be described in the same manner.
FunkyTown Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 I like that description......but religious people tend to be conservative and this is a religious forum. Outside of here.....the Dems who hate Republican's could aptly be described in the same manner.You know I don't describe you in that category, Bytor. Disagreeing with someone is not the same as thinking someone is the Antichrist because their last name is Obama, or comparing someone to a genocidal maniac because they might raise taxes.
MrsAri Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 Those wearing tolerance for a label call other views intolerable” - Phyllis McGinley
FunkyTown Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 Those wearing tolerance for a label call other views intolerable” - Phyllis McGinley"She talking crazy talkMumbo jumboMonkey on your back" - David Henderson, the lead singer for Chilliwack.
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