Where are they now?

[circusboy01]

I've been sick for about the last week. Chilies and fever. So I've been laying in bed thinking of some of the stupid statements people who are supposed to know about music have come up with. Here is what I think are the 2 worst. There used to be a program on vh1 or maybe mtv called where are they now They were doing a piece on Cyndy Lauper. singing the song I'm gonna be strong written and made famous years earlier by Gene Pitney The idiot hosts comment was " Boy I bet shes embarrassed by this clip." The thing is Cyndy was famous for her voice. I don't remember for sure. But I believe she was said to have perfect pitch. In other words. If it was singable she could sing it. Gene Pitney was one of the most prolific and talent singer/ songwriters the world has ever known. With hits like Half Heaven Half Heartache 24 hours from Tulsa, Town without pity, Liberty Valance, Mecca, I'm Gonna be Strong and many more. His Song Town without pity from the movie of the same name won an oscar. Heck he even wrote Hello Mary Lou for Ricky Nelson.

The next one is Gary Stewart. I've got this drinking thing, Shes acting single I'm drinking double, Whisky Trip. To name just a few. The idiot credics Said he was too rock and roll to be country, and too country to be rock and roll. If you know his music you know that there is not a rock and roll note in any of his songs If you never heard him listen to him on Youtube

ou know if you don't know what you're talking about you should just keep you mouth shut

Okay one last rant Bill Mahr had an idiot x mormon on. These people spread more lies about Mormons than the worst non members around. He made the statement that tithe is paid on the Net. I's not. I. It's on the gross. If you are paying on the net you are not paying a full tithe. He was also calling Garments Magic Pajama's . The things Bill Mahr doesn't know about Mormons could fill a book I think we should get together and send him an email showing all the things he has wrong. Brother Ray

[skippy740]

Tithing is 10% of your increase. However you pay it so you feel comfortable and with full integrity to your bishop to say that you are a full tithe payor is all that matters.

[applepansy]

I'm confused. What does Cindy Lauper have to do with tithing?

[Guest]

Bill Maher is king of the idiot blowhards.

[Guest]

I've been sick for about the last week. Chilies and fever. So I've been laying in bed thinking of some of the stupid statements people who are supposed to know about music have come up with. Here is what I think are the 2 worst. There used to be a program on vh1 or maybe mtv called where are they now They were doing a piece on Cyndy Lauper. singing the song I'm gonna be strong written and made famous years earlier by Gene Pitney The idiot hosts comment was " Boy I bet shes embarrassed by this clip." The thing is Cyndy was famous for her voice. I don't remember for sure. But I believe she was said to have perfect pitch. In other words. If it was singable she could sing it. Gene Pitney was one of the most prolific and talent singer/ songwriters the world has ever known. With hits like Half Heaven Half Heartache 24 hours from Tulsa, Town without pity, Liberty Valance, Mecca, I'm Gonna be Strong and many more. His Song Town without pity from the movie of the same name won an oscar. Heck he even wrote Hello Mary Lou for Ricky Nelson.

The next one is Gary Stewart. I've got this drinking thing, Shes acting single I'm drinking double, Whisky Trip. To name just a few. The idiot credics Said he was too rock and roll to be country, and too country to be rock and roll. If you know his music you know that there is not a rock and roll note in any of his songs If you never heard him listen to him on Youtube

ou know if you don't know what you're talking about you should just keep you mouth shut

Okay one last rant Bill Mahr had an idiot x mormon on. These people spread more lies about Mormons than the worst non members around. He made the statement that tithe is paid on the Net. I's not. I. It's on the gross. If you are paying on the net you are not paying a full tithe. He was also calling Garments Magic Pajama's . The things Bill Mahr doesn't know about Mormons could fill a book I think we should get together and send him an email showing all the things he has wrong. Brother Ray

Brother Ray, Cyndi Lauper's days with Blue Angel was not good. That's when she did the cover for I'm Gonna Be Strong. Granted, that song is the best song out of that band, but the band was just not good. She didn't become popular until Blue Angel disbanded due to some problems with their manager which caused her to go bankrupt and went to seek a solo career. She did do a solo remake of it in her Greatest Hits album but it was not released in the US.

Yes, Cyndi is a very very talented singer. I grew up in the Madonna versus Cyndi Lauper era and I couldn't understand why it's even a contest. Madonna's vocal range is so very limited compared to Cyndi's. By the way, yes, Cyndi has perfect pitch but that's not really what made her amazing. She's one of the elite singers that can sing upwards to 4 octaves. And that's after she ruined her vocal chords and had to undergo extensive vocal rehabilitation.

[NeuroTypical]

She also did a pretty good job playing Sylvia Pickel in Vibes. Which wasn't that great of a movie, but it was 1988 - what else would you expect?

[Vort]

I have been told that perfect pitch (which I do not have) is a decidedly mixed blessing for a musician. On the one hand, you always know where an 'A' is. On the other hand, pitches off by a quarter or an eighth step can ruin your enjoyment of a musical performance, or at least prove a big distraction.

[mnn727]

. He made the statement that tithe is paid on the Net. I's not. I. It's on the gross. If you are paying on the net you are not paying a full tithe.

Tithing is paid on your increase, no matter how you define it.

According to the Brethern no one has the right to define what your increase (or a full tithe) is to anyone else.

That's between the person paying it and God.

Edited September 5, 2012 by mnn727

[jerome1232]

The next one is Gary Stewart. I've got this drinking thing, Shes acting single I'm drinking double, Whisky Trip. To name just a few. The idiot credics Said he was too rock and roll to be country, and too country to be rock and roll. If you know his music you know that there is not a rock and roll note in any of his songs If you never heard him listen to him on Youtube

Just listened to him, I can hear some southern rock influence in there.

[Guest]

I have been told that perfect pitch (which I do not have) is a decidedly mixed blessing for a musician. On the one hand, you always know where an 'A' is. On the other hand, pitches off by a quarter or an eighth step can ruin your enjoyment of a musical performance, or at least prove a big distraction.

That's my brother-in-law. And he can't get on an airplane or a very high elevator without earplugs. The shift in air pressure is like ice-pick in his ear!

[skippy740]

EarlJibbs,

I do not understand why you chose to "laugh" at my post. It is factual, in line with church handbooks and the correct doctrine.

Also, notice that I didn't say that you shouldn't pay on your gross or net income - only that you pay your tithes in such a way that you can tell your Bishop that you are comfortable in saying that you are a full tithe payor.

Simply put, I don't understand what was so funny.

[circusboy01]

Tithing is 10% of your increase. However you pay it so you feel comfortable and with full integrity to your bishop to say that you are a full tithe payor is all that matters.

I have always heard,since I first joined the Church, back in 1967 that Tithing was from your gross. Way back when farmers didn't have much money IOf they had 10 pigs they would give 1 pig for thithing which would be the gross. If the pig owner paid net on the pig

He would have been able to deduct what he paid from the pigs feed slop, and the general cost of raising the pig. I don't think it worked that way

Please don't think I'm going against what you say for argument sake. I'm just telling you what I learned when I first joined the church

Now it has to be that one of us is wrong, and we should find out 'positively, which one of us is wrong. Because if I'm wrong sure want to know. Maybe we could both ask our Bishops, and a couple of our ex- bishops, and comp0are notes later. Or if you know of a better source where we could get he answers. Let me Know Brother Ray.

Why do my posts always end up 3 times longer than I planne4d on? ;o) Brother Ray

Edited September 6, 2012 by circusboy01

[circusboy01]

I'm confused. What does Cindy Lauper have to do with tithing?

Not a thing. I was complaining about what people who should know about music said about Cyndy Lauper and Gary Stewart.

When I was finished with that rant. I started talking about the idiot ex- Mormon that was on the Bill Mahr show. I can see how it could have been confusing, and I appologize for that Brother Ray

Edited September 6, 2012 by circusboy01

[circusboy01]

EarlJibbs,

I do not understand why you chose to "laugh" at my post. It is factual, in line with church handbooks and the correct doctrine.

Also, notice that I didn't say that you shouldn't pay on your gross or net income - only that you pay your tithes in such a way that you can tell your Bishop that you are comfortable in saying that you are a full tithe payor.

Simply put, I don't understand what was so funny.

If I laughed at your post, it was purely by accident. I'm sorry that I hit the wrong button

Please believe me I would never be that rude on purpose Brother RaY

Edited September 6, 2012 by circusboy01

[circusboy01]

Tithing is 10% of your increase. However you pay it so you feel comfortable and with full integrity to your bishop to say that you are a full tithe payor is all that matters.

Oh. I just looked at who laughed out load.And it wasn't me . So I'm hoping that makes everything Okay between us. Brother Ray

[circusboy01]

Bill Maher is king of the idiot blowhards.

He sure is,and he knows nothing about the church. He never talks about how much we have grown. How we have always helped disasters victoms. Without bragging about it on TV Because if we want the admiration of the TV audience.That is our reward. I'm sure we would all rather wait, and get a Heavenly reward instead. Brother Ray

[circusboy01]

Brother Ray, Cyndi Lauper's days with Blue Angel was not good. That's when she did the cover for I'm Gonna Be Strong. Granted, that song is the best song out of that band, but the band was just not good. She didn't become popular until Blue Angel disbanded due to some problems with their manager which caused her to go bankrupt and went to seek a solo career. She did do a solo remake of it in her Greatest Hits album but it was not released in the US.

Yes, Cyndi is a very very talented singer. I grew up in the Madonna versus Cyndi Lauper era and I couldn't understand why it's even a contest. Madonna's vocal range is so very limited compared to Cyndi's. By the way, yes, Cyndi has perfect pitch but that's not really what made her amazing. She's one of the elite singers that can sing upwards to 4 octaves. And that's after she ruined her vocal chords and had to undergo extensive vocal rehabilitation.

Blue Angels was the group she was with when she did I'm gonna be strong? Before her solo career? I didn't knopw that.

I remember now that octive thing was what they were tal;king aboput I agree with you about Madonna VS. Lauper The Octive thing is what I heard abpout her, Years ago. Brother Ray

[circusboy01]

Brother Ray, Cyndi Lauper's days with Blue Angel was not good. That's when she did the cover for I'm Gonna Be Strong. Granted, that song is the best song out of that band, but the band was just not good. She didn't become popular until Blue Angel disbanded due to some problems with their manager which caused her to go bankrupt and went to seek a solo career. She did do a solo remake of it in her Greatest Hits album but it was not released in the US.

Yes, Cyndi is a very very talented singer. I grew up in the Madonna versus Cyndi Lauper era and I couldn't understand why it's even a contest. Madonna's vocal range is so very limited compared to Cyndi's. By the way, yes, Cyndi has perfect pitch but that's not really what made her amazing. She's one of the elite singers that can sing upwards to 4 octaves. And that's after she ruined her vocal chords and had to undergo extensive vocal rehabilitation.

I just felt that the host of Where are they now was disrespectful. to both cyndy Lauper and Gene Pitney. Probably because I liked them both,and I had been a Gene Pitney fan since the 60s Brother Ray

Edited September 6, 2012 by circusboy01

[circusboy01]

Tithing is paid on your increase, no matter how you define it.

According to the Brethern no one has the right to define what your increase (or a full tithe) is to anyone else.

That's between the person paying it and God.

I personally feel that if I'm not paying on the gross' I'm stealing from Heavenly Father. But that's just me. I'm ot pointing a finger at those who pay on the Net. Claiming that they are

stealing from Heavenly Father. So p[lease. No nasty posts to me. I'm going to set an appointment with my Bishop for a Temple recommend .I think I will talk to him, and the Stake President. About what would be considered a full tithe. If it turns out that I'm paying too much. I'll probably continue to pay too much. I know I'm probably oing to hear from somebody saying that there is no such thing as paying too much tithe. Not enough. Yes But too much no, and I agree. Brother Ray

ps. I'm spending so much time getting rid of extra letters in my words. That I think I'm going to dig out The old Dragon naturally speaking. Brother Ray

[Blackmarch]

Bill Maher is king of the idiot blowhards.

Even Nietzche more enjoyable than Maher.

[mnn727]

I personally feel that if I'm not paying on the gross' I'm stealing from Heavenly Father. But that's just me. I'm ot pointing a finger at those who pay on the Net. Claiming that they are

stealing from Heavenly Father. So p[lease. No nasty posts to me. I'm going to set an appointment with my Bishop for a Temple recommend .I think I will talk to him, and the Stake President. About what would be considered a full tithe. If it turns out that I'm paying too much. I'll probably continue to pay too much. I know I'm probably oing to hear from somebody saying that there is no such thing as paying too much tithe. Not enough. Yes But too much no, and I agree. Brother Ray

ps. I'm spending so much time getting rid of extra letters in my words. That I think I'm going to dig out The old Dragon naturally speaking. Brother Ray

No one has posted a nasty post about you. You want to pay on gross-- no problem, but the brethren have said many times that tithing is paid on your increase and no one has the right to define that for anyone else.

Heres something that many surprise you, some people not only pay on net but they subtract living expenses before figuring it also and if they believe its an honest tithe, then it is.

[Vort]

Heres something that many surprise you, some people not only pay on net but they subtract living expenses before figuring it also and if they believe its an honest tithe, then it is.

Uh...no. That is not your call to make. Whether it is an honest tithe is for God to decide. And God may well decide that those who attempt to nickel-and-dime their tithing down to a bare minimum have not, in fact, paid an honest tithe.

But if they declare themselves full tithe-payers, they will likely get a temple recommend. If that's all you mean, then I agree.

[circusboy01]

No one has posted a nasty post about you. You want to pay on gross-- no problem, but the brethren have said many times that tithing is paid on your increase and no one has the right to define that for anyone else.

Heres something that many surprise you, some people not only pay on net but they subtract living expenses before figuring it also and if they believe its an honest tithe, then it is.

You misread my post. I did not accuse anyone of sending me a nasty post. I simply asked everyone not to, after the reading the post I had just written.. Okay I understand the thing about how if you feel you have paid a full tithe you have, and you're all right. Tithing, however you choose to pay it, is between you and Heavenly Father.

But I still feel that a true honest tithe must be paid on the gross, and I will continue to pay on the gross. until I hear a General Authority, or a Member of the First Presidency, say different

Brother Ray

[mnn727]

But I still feel that a true honest tithe must be paid on the gross, and I will continue to pay on the gross. until I hear a General Authority, or a Member of the First Presidency, say different

Brother Ray

And if that is what you believe a full tithe is, then you are correct: for you a full tithe is on gross.

But if someone believes something else you have no right to tell them they are wrong

Its between God and the person.

[MorningStar]

Paying tithing on self-employment income is a little more tricky. You would probably want to deduct business expenses and pay on your profit. When you pay your taxes, you can deduct mileage and other expenses.