pam Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 ... and these guys are supposed to be role models for the church's young men? I haven't read anything that said they were from our church. I just googled a bunch of articles and nothing mentions the LDS church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper Posted October 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 I haven't read anything that said they were from our church. I just googled a bunch of articles and nothing mentions the LDS church."According to Taylor, he and Hall are leaders for a local troop of the Boy Scouts of America. Hall added that the men also were acting as Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints youth leaders."Source: Men may face felony charges after toppling Goblin Valley formation | The Salt Lake Tribune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 Thanks. I had not seen that one. But probably because I avoid the Salt Lake Trib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still_Small_Voice Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 I think everyone is making too big of a fuss over this. Yes a natural artifact was destroyed, but to make someone a felon over this is over the top. No one was hurt or killed.But I think this guy may be in hot water for filing a false disability claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 It is based on what is determined the value is. Yes some say it's just a rock. But it's a formation that can never be replaced. What's the sense in preserving nature if people can just go in and destroy it and be given a slap on the wrist? Especially formations that are dated a million years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still_Small_Voice Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 After reading more about this it appears he will only be facing misdemeanor charges for this act of vandalism. Who knows what will become of the trumped up insurance claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 After reading more about this it appears he will only be facing misdemeanor charges for this act of vandalism. Who knows what will become of the trumped up insurance claim.Reference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 After reading more about this it appears he will only be facing misdemeanor charges for this act of vandalism. Who knows what will become of the trumped up insurance claim.Misdemeanor charges are still plenty serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper Posted October 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 They have now been removed from leadership position in BSA. The Utah National Parks Council did not believe their excuse that the rock was loose and a safety hazard.Source: Men who toppled Goblin Valley rock removed as Boy Scout leaders | The Salt Lake Tribune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bini Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Of course, when I go to click on the video to watch it - it's been removed due to copyright infringement. Does the news not know they're using copyrighted stuff? Ugh, any valid link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Huh - I wonder who copyrighted it? I thought dudes uploading videos onto YouTube stuck stuff effectively sticks it in the public domain, or maybe owned by YouTube? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleWyvern Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Huh - I wonder who copyrighted it? I thought dudes uploading videos onto YouTube stuck stuff effectively sticks it in the public domain, or maybe owned by YouTube?Unless your youtube video has third-party content, you generally keep the rights to the video you upload. Here's youtube's official policies on copyright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) Huh - I wonder who copyrighted it? I thought dudes uploading videos onto YouTube stuck stuff effectively sticks it in the public domain, or maybe owned by YouTube?"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Dave Hall." I guess he and the rest of the three stooges got tired of being mocked by the world. They never posted it on YouTube themselves. Hall posted in on his Facebook account and later on SL Tribune uploaded it to YouTube. Edited October 25, 2013 by Swiper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_A_Guy Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Yeah, the Trib had an article on the copyright claim yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroads Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Bet they are all feeling sheepish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerome1232 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 The moral of the story? If you are going to be an idiot, don't videotape it and share it with the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Can't stop the signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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