prisonchaplain Posted February 4, 2014 Report Posted February 4, 2014 Apparently the producer of Saturday Night Live thinks so.In Conversation:SNL's Lorne Michaels -- Vulture Look for his answer to the question: Are there any basic rules for what works and what doesn’t politically?Agree? Disagree? Why? Quote
Palerider Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 I am not sure.....I have several friends and some family members that are liberal. I joke with them all the time and they joke back. Not sure what they really think in regards to what I say. I think it has to do with how passionate they are. Quote
prisonchaplain Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Posted February 5, 2014 Family dynamics are probably different from school/workplace etc. Although, I get laughed at by my family all the time, so . . . Quote
Guest Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 I think that judging by FB and lds.net, my liberal friends/family dish it out way better than they take it, so I'd say yes, in general. Quote
NeuroTypical Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 I honestly don't know. But I am reminded of the guy who used to be the voice of Chef on Southpark, the guy who lent his talents to and worked for the guys who mockingly satirize everything and everyone equally. He got ticked off and left the show after they did an episode on his religion (scientology). No idea what his politics are, though. Quote
SpiritDragon Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 In my own experience I would tend to agree. Obviously it is a generalization and individual sense of humour will vary.It seems that in our current society the conservative has to learn to be able to laugh it off, while the liberals quickly jump on the "I'm offended" wagon and get very defensive when they are the ones being ridiculed. Rather than take anything in stride my liberal friends seem to need to make a production to destroy dissension and make out all those who would "dare" to find their "plight" humourous to be a bigoted backwater hick. I personally find it an interesting musing that the term "politically correct" is really more "liberally correct." Quote
prisonchaplain Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Posted February 5, 2014 I'm remembering the incident in which one of the Duck Dynasty cast was at a high-end hotel, asked for some kind of directions, and was escorted out of the hotel and told to go down the block. The staff assumed he was a vagrant. The response from this cast member? He laughed and said they were so polite about it, and that he certainly did not want to get anyone in trouble. He even suggested that he would have done the same, in reverse circumstances. Quote
Quin Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Snort. Both sides are great at taking jokes about things that don't matter to them. But of people start stepping on a paper with Jesus's name, or bring up gay marriage, or (insert any other hot button conservative issue) then the sparks fly just as hotly as when Liberal hot button issues are made fun of. I would honestly say that conservatives are so MUCH worse, that c-hot button issues are nearly never joked about. Instead, things that conservatives don't care about (speech mannerisms, etc.) are used, instead. The thing about liberals, through, is that their beliefs are so DIVERSE (as to what is important) that there is never an angry mob phoning in to corporate, killing advertising, or rallying boycotts at church. Instead, 90% of them will be laughing! right along with all the conservatives! at the 10% being made fun of. Until it's heir turn. Which means that ANY hot button issue is fair game, and that in any issue, the 10% will be screaming about it (but without enough collective power behind them to make the network ban certain issues). I'm reminded a lot of The Daily Show's Colbert (back in 2004? Before his own show) when he got a whole group of liberals at the election basically going for each other's throats (over what was most important). Conservatives are cohesive. Liberals are like herding cats. Says the midliner. Q Quote
Windseeker Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 I guess it's all a matter of perspective. Hypocrisy is so ingrained in the left and the media is so saturated by the left that people just get used to female conservatives and conservatives of minority ethnic backgrounds getting lambasted. Yet if you don't vote for a liberal your full of hate and a racist.This President and his 57 states, 'Austrian' language and army full of "corpse-men" is a genius yet Dan Quale ads an E to Potato and his career is over. Funny right? I saw so many Bush = Hitler signs but never saw them discussed in the main stream media as hate speech like you see with Obama. So definitely Conservatives can handle a joke, unlike "Progressives" we enforce our sensibilities with feet and pocket book not the rule of law. (See Political Correctness) Quote
McLainDow Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 I am a center of the aisle type so I get it from everyone. Quote
prisonchaplain Posted February 6, 2014 Author Report Posted February 6, 2014 I'm going to stereotype and oversimplify and be totally unfair. The vast majority of comedians that make TV are liberal. They tend to be non-religious, or nominally so. So, when a producer for these folk says conservatives can take jokes better, it makes sense. It's easier for liberal comedians to think up jokes about conservatives. And, when they tell them, we do laugh. They are funny, and we do not mistake them for serious commentary.Liberals, then, are not used to being joked about. So, when the laugh guns get turned on them they feel betrayed. They take themselves and their causes so seriously, and here this fellow believer is making light of it??? The hubris!How many conservatives have been disappeared for "mispeaking" in the last few years? How many liberals have? Oh granted, a few liberals have had to mutter half-apologies. Their networks have then issued mild-sounding pronouncements about disagreeing with whatever was perceived, but supporting their talent.I admit that I am conservative, and I can't help but see lopsided treatment. Sometimes it's not 50/50. Sometimes we feel we're getting roughed up because we are getting roughed up.It doesn't help much to whine--just don't ask me to deny reality. Quote
Traveler Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Lets take another look at this - Would Jesus be considered a conservative or liberal? For example would feeding the 5,000 be considered the act of a liberal or a conservative? How do you all like this joke? are you a liberal or a conservative?The Traveler Quote
NeuroTypical Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 That's easy! Feeding the 5,000 is the act of a conservative.Running an election campaign on feeding the 5,000, then raising taxes to do so, then misappropriating 10% of the funds, losing 10%, and creating a new level of government bureaucracy to deal with the 5,000, who then manage to feed around 500 of them, and then proceed to expand their scope to feed 15,000 who were never actually there to hear the Savior, that is the act of a liberal.(Full disclosure - going 500% over budget due to earmarks, and then blaming the program's failures on the previous adminstration, are things both sides do.) Quote
MarginOfError Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 That's easy! Feeding the 5,000 is the act of a conservative.Running an election campaign on feeding the 5,000, then raising taxes to do so, then misappropriating 10% of the funds, losing 10%, and creating a new level of government bureaucracy to deal with the 5,000, who then manage to feed around 500 of them, and then proceed to expand their scope to feed 15,000 who were never actually there to hear the Savior, that is the act of a liberal.(Full disclosure - going 500% over budget due to earmarks, and then blaming the program's failures on the previous adminstration, are things both sides do.)On the contrary. Only liberal accounting could turn five loaves into twelve baskets. Quote
Windseeker Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Lets take another look at this - Would Jesus be considered a conservative or liberal? For example would feeding the 5,000 be considered the act of a liberal or a conservative? How do you all like this joke? are you a liberal or a conservative?The TravelerMaintaining the current definitions of Liberal and Conservative, Jesus is a Conservative. He espouses the principles of agency and accountability. Marion G Romney stated that the protection of agency is more important than the preservation of life.Regarding the loaves and fishes, if Jesus was a liberal (in todays definition) he wouldn't have fed his followers himself (*Note - they were a group of people seeking spiritual guidance not free food) but demanded that Ceasar (government) take from those who have and give to those who don't have. Quote
MarginOfError Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Maintaining the current definitions of Liberal and Conservative, Jesus is a Conservative. He espouses the principles of agency and accountability. Marion G Romney stated that the protection of agency is more important than the preservation of life.Regarding the loaves and fishes, if Jesus was a liberal (in todays definition) he wouldn't have fed his followers himself (*Note - they were a group of people seeking spiritual guidance not free food) but demanded that Ceasar (government) take from those who have and give to those who don't have.Ah, you may be on to something. Instead of demanding that government take from those who have and give to those who don't have, he borrowed the bread from someone who had it (investor), used that to justify taking out a loan to get more of the same (from the Fed), distributed the food to the hungry, and then left the excess to rot and stink while taking all the credit for things that were given to him.So he was a profit-driven, corporatist, anti-environmental conservative. Quote
Windseeker Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Ah, you may be on to something. Instead of demanding that government take from those who have and give to those who don't have, he borrowed the bread from someone who had it (investor), used that to justify taking out a loan to get more of the same (from the Fed), distributed the food to the hungry, and then left the excess to rot and stink while taking all the credit for things that were given to him.So he was a profit-driven, corporatist, anti-environmental, racist conservative who kllls baby seals.fixed for effect.btw..he didn't borrow the bread (like liberals borrow our Social Security) it was actually given to him by a boy in the group.Just because conservatives believe in a free market does not make them greedy anti-environment, corporatist. Actually big business hates conservatives, they love their corporate welfare and being smothered in new regulation. They have their legions of lawyers, lobbyists and accountants available to navigate the mire leaving their small business competitors in their wake to get swallowed up and elminiated. They don't even need to compete with small businesses thanks to big government. In what planet do you live where Apple, GE, Boeing, Google, Fannie Mae, Microsoft (former employer), Facebook, GM are conservative? Quote
prisonchaplain Posted February 6, 2014 Author Report Posted February 6, 2014 Lets take another look at this - Would Jesus be considered a conservative or liberal? For example would feeding the 5,000 be considered the act of a liberal or a conservative? How do you all like this joke? are you a liberal or a conservative?The TravelerIt has potential. Gotta work on the delivery though. Quote
Windseeker Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 · Hidden Hidden It has potential. Gotta work on the delivery though. Waite..was that a joke?
Backroads Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 I tried to see if anyone had done the Politic-o-matic according to Jesus because someone did do it according to the Buddha (guessed him to be a libertarian).Alas, it has not been done. Quote
prisonchaplain Posted February 6, 2014 Author Report Posted February 6, 2014 Jesus' kingdom was not of this world. He would likely have avoided political parties. On the other hand, he did speak truth to power. My take away is that churches and Christians of all stripes do best when we speak prophetically. Actually trying to acquire political power, and yet stay true is a mightily difficult task. Quote
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