Ashley Madison Bots

[Crypto]

I  came across this article about Ashley Madison in conjunction with the hack. Apparently not only did the data get exposed, but the site also lured participants to spend money with bots.

http://gizmodo.com/how-ashley-madison-hid-its-fembot-con-from-users-and-in-1728410265

Just goes to show that you can trust the untrustworthy to be well... untrustworthy.

[Guest MormonGator]

It really is a good indicator of the gender differences in my view. 

[Bini]

I have not kept up on the whole Ashley Madison crisis. Wow.

[clwnuke]

Men prefer blonde software programs  :)

[NeuroTypical]

A small female user base didn’t seem to faze the company. In fact, in a slide deck emailed to Biderman on January 25, 2013, one manager describes a “sustainable male to female ratio of 9:1.” The company was aiming for 11 percent real women in any given area. But apparently, it rarely achieved that goal.

 

lawl.  So, not only did AM entice dudes with bots, then charge them to interact with the bots, but only around 4-6% of the total subscriber base was something besides some other dude.

 

Anyone watch Ice Age The Meltdown?

 

Eddie: What if we’re the last animals left alive? We’ll have to repopulate the earth. 

Crash: How are we supposed to do that? Everyone here is either a dude or our sister.

 

[jerome1232]

I have not kept up on the whole Ashley Madison crisis. Wow.

 

 

I wouldn't call it a crisis per say. Poetic justice? Maybe.

Edited September 10, 2015 by jerome1232

[Bini]

I wouldn't call it a crisis per say. Poetic justice? Maybe.

 

It was a crisis for the company.

[RMGuy]

We only had one HC and the stake YM's president on the list, so that wasn't too bad I guess...

[clwnuke]

We only had one HC and the stake YM's president on the list, so that wasn't too bad I guess...

 

Wow, how did you determine that?

[RMGuy]

The database is on-line of AM clients. You can run the e-mail addresses of people you know through the database. It is possible that someone just used their email and it isn't really them, but a little more digging can get you frequency of visits and initial IP address.

[Guest]

So you went through and entered the emails of leadership of your ward and stake?

[NeuroTypical]

I'm interested too RMGuy.  Let's hear your methodology!  People may want to take issue with your motivations, but I'm honestly interested in how you went about determining this.

Edited September 11, 2015 by NeuroTypical

[RMGuy]

Motivation: I was asked by the stake president to check the database against stake leaders so they would have a heads up before someone in the stake did the same thing. Better to know about it than to have it announced in the local paper that one of your bishops is on the list kind of thing.

[Vort]

Motivation: I was asked by the stake president to check the database against stake leaders so they would have a heads up before someone in the stake did the same thing. Better to know about it than to have it announced in the local paper that one of your bishops is on the list kind of thing.

 

Ugh. What a distasteful responsibility. You have my sympathy.

 

It is rather disconcerting to find the names of a high councilor and a YM president on such a list. If I were to sign up for an adultery website and still try to maintain my name in the Church, I certainly would not use my own email. I would create a dummy email. The credit card thing would be a bit harder, but there might be some way around that, too. The point is, if two people in the stake signed up for AM under their own names (assuming you can trust the thieves who put the information up), how many others might be signed up under false names?

 

But this is exactly the type of questioning that leads to rifts and lack of unity. We must be able to trust in the integrity of our fellow Saints. Tough situation.

[Guest]

It really is a good indicator of the gender differences in my view. 

 

Which has added to the database of questions in my mind ever since I became old enough to notice them. :)

[jerome1232]

Assuming they verify emails, you can't just sign emails up willy nilly. You'd need access to them.

I doubt anyone would give second thought to using personal emails. I seriously doubt the site displays your email to other clients anyways and no one signs up for a service anticipating it to be cracked and their database dumped.

Could the hackers have cracked high profile targets emails and signed them up? It's possible I guess.

Scratch all of that, they didn't verify emails. Searching by email is worthless.

Edited September 11, 2015 by jerome1232

[RMGuy]

Vort,

That is almost exactly my thoughts and feelings. 

[NeuroTypical]

We must be able to trust in the integrity of our fellow Saints. 

 

Interesting notion.  I'm not sure it's scripturally sound - 'arm of flesh' and all that.  I like my wife's phrase more.  "I trust God to act like God, and man to act like man."

 

That way, when stuff like this happens, my testimony is unfazed.  

[Sunday21]

Motivation: I was asked by the stake president to check the database against stake leaders so they would have a heads up before someone in the stake did the same thing. Better to know about it than to have it announced in the local paper that one of your bishops is on the list kind of thing.

Interesting. A number of church members have complained to me that we have men with mistresses who are attending church. Some have gone to the bishop to complain and been told that the bishop can not interfere unless the man or his wife come to the bishop.

Edited September 12, 2015 by Sunday21

[Vort]

Interesting notion.  I'm not sure it's scripturally sound - 'arm of flesh' and all that.  I like my wife's phrase more.  "I trust God to act like God, and man to act like man."

 

That way, when stuff like this happens, my testimony is unfazed.  

 

I agree that our testimonies need to be based on God, not man. But we are commanded to be one, and whether in marriage or any other community setting, being one requires being able to depend on others. Trust is vital.