Would you ever serve alcohol?

[Blackmarch]

Would you ever serve alcohol? If you hosted a wedding would you serve alcohol to guests? Would you offer alcohol at a dinner to nonmormon family? Would you buy alcohol for cooking? To take to a party?

I have bought alcohol to take to a party . I bought one with a cartoon cat on the label Called "cat's piss". I have bought alcohol for relatives coming to stay for a week at Xmas. I am not sure that I would any of things today.

What are your views?

if being a bartender was the only job i could get.. i suppose I would, or if i was a waiter at a restaurant that had alcoholic options I would but other than that no.

[Just_A_Guy]

Would you ever serve alcohol? If you hosted a wedding would you serve alcohol to guests?  Would you offer alcohol at a dinner to nonmormon family? . . . To take to a party?

 

My concerns about serving alcohol are social/pragmatic, not theological (I'd have no problem serving coffee to guests--they aren't under the same covenant I am).  As others have stated; I don't like how people get when they're buzzed, and they sure as heck aren't gonna do it on my dime.  If they don't think they can have a good time in my company without alcohol, then maybe it's time to re-evaluate our relationship. 

 

 

Would you buy alcohol for cooking?

 

I have no problem, in the abstract, with giving business to alcohol manufacturers/retailers if I have a legitimate need for their product (for example, growing up, my sister occasionally bought beer to wash her hair with).  As for cooking--on the one hand, the alcohol does not cook out; on the other hand, David O. McKay can be quoted as saying (perhaps somewhat tongue-in-cheek) that the WoW forbids drinking, not eating, alcohol.  So, speaking for myself--I might buy alcohol to cook with; but it would have to be a very appetizing recipe. 

[yjacket]

if being a bartender was the only job i could get.. i suppose I would, or if i was a waiter at a restaurant that had alcoholic options I would but other than that no.

The best entry level job I had was being a waiter; when I did it I could easily make more than double the minimum wage. We were always told to up-sell the alcohol because the store made good money off it, it was easy to sell and your tips could easily double if your table drank.

 

I worked my tail off and in one summer that job paid for my mission and 1st year of college. I never up-sold the alcohol but I didn't mind serving it-as long as it wasn't a lot.  I didn't like working in the bar area because it was too much alcohol (and at the time smoking).

 

I wouldn't personally buy it for someone else as a gift, I wouldn't have it nor smoking served in my house. 

[Guest]

I don't serve alcohol or coffee in parties or gatherings I host.  Everybody knows my rules.  There is no alcohol or coffee in my house so if you want to drink it, you'll have to bring your own.  I have no problem with them bringing their own booze.  After a while my family and friends just stopped bringing their own alcoholic beverages because more than half my guests don't drink, so the drinkers are the odd people out, so for the past, I'd say, 10 years or so, parties at my house are soda, juice, and water affairs, except for New Year's Eve when someone always brings champagne while my family toasts with white grape juice.

 

I don't give alcohol for gifts either.  Even when a person loves his bottle of wine, there is a lot more to that person than that, so there's always something else I can give aside from that bottle of wine.

 

It is not me forcing people to live my standards.  Rather, it is me telling people what my standards are and not being forced to tell a different standard.

[The Folk Prophet]

I don't serve alcohol or coffee in parties or gatherings I host.  Everybody knows my rules.  There is no alcohol or coffee in my house so if you want to drink it, you'll have to bring your own.  I have no problem with them bringing their own booze.  After a while my family and friends just stopped bringing their own alcoholic beverages because more than half my guests don't drink, so the drinkers are the odd people out, so for the past, I'd say, 10 years or so, parties at my house are soda, juice, and water affairs, except for New Year's Eve when someone always brings champagne while my family toasts with white grape juice.

 

I don't give alcohol for gifts either.  Even when a person loves his bottle of wine, there is a lot more to that person than that, so there's always something else I can give aside from that bottle of wine.

 

It is not me forcing people to live my standards.  Rather, it is me telling people what my standards are and not being forced to tell a different standard.

 

I honestly cannot imagine it being acceptable to have a bunch of people sitting around my home getting intoxicated, even if they brought their own.

 

My home, as I work very, very hard to make it be, is a sacred place. As far as it is in my control, I do not allow thing into it that would desecrate it in any regard.

[Guest]

I honestly cannot imagine it being acceptable to have a bunch of people sitting around my home getting intoxicated, even if they brought their own.

 

My home, as I work very, very hard to make it be, is a sacred place. As far as it is in my control, I do not allow thing into it that would desecrate it in any regard.

 

But then, I don't consider other people imbibing their own alcohol as desecrating it in the same manner that the husband watching NFL on Sunday at my house or the husband and kids playing Assasin's Creed in my house is desecrating it...

 

My house is not perfect just as the inhabitants thereof are not perfect and it is not expected to be.  It's a house of sinners and all sinners are welcome.

Edited November 2, 2015 by anatess

[The Folk Prophet]

But then, I don't consider other people imbibing their own alcohol as desecrating it in the same manner that the husband watching NFL on Sunday at my house or the husband and kids playing Assasin's Creed in my house is desecrating it...

 

My house is not perfect just as the inhabitants thereof are not perfect and it is not expected to be.  It's a house of sinners and all sinners are welcome.

 

All sinners are welcome at church too...that doesn't mean we let people come into it and urinate all over the walls.

[Guest]

All sinners are welcome at church too...that doesn't mean we let people come into it and urinate all over the walls.

 

I don't let people urinate in my walls either.

[The Folk Prophet]

I don't let people urinate in my walls either.

 

Exactly.

[Guest]

Exactly.

 

There's a point to this somewhere.  But, I somehow missed it.

[AnnieCarvalho]

No. 

[The Folk Prophet]

There's a point to this somewhere.  But, I somehow missed it.

 

Allowing alcohol into my home, to me, would be equivalent to letting someone urinate on my walls.

[Jamie123]

Allowing alcohol into my home, to me, would be equivalent to letting someone urinate on my walls.

 

Just to satisfy my morbid curiosity, would you feel the same about tea and coffee?

[Guest]

I think there is a difference between what you allow in your home vs. what you would do for, say, a commercial-related function.

[Guest]

Allowing alcohol into my home, to me, would be equivalent to letting someone urinate on my walls.

 

Ahh!  I get it now.

 

Yeah, we have different standards.  My dad worked at a beer company.  Beer is a mainstay in my house growing up.  None of us drink - not even my dad.  So yeah, my family tradition is to bring beer to a party even if we, ourselves, don't drink.  So, my family still does that, until today, except I don't bring the beer anymore.  I didn't feel the need to ask my family to change that tradition, although, it changed by itself when my family stopped bringing beer to my house about 10 years or so ago, because not many people care to drink it at my house - it only ends up going home with whoever brought it.  Which is interesting because the same group of people go to parties at another family member's house and the beer always gets consumed there.

Edited November 3, 2015 by anatess

[The Folk Prophet]

Allowing alcohol into my home, to me, would be equivalent to letting someone urinate on my walls.

 

No. Because the effects of someone who's consumed the one is less concerning than the other.

 

That is not saying I would allow the one or the other into my home based on the same principle. One may be urinating on the wall, the other just splattering a bit of mud on the walls. Either way, keep it out of my home, thank you very much.

[Guest]

A bit of a tangent here, but Anatess's post reminded me of this.

 

I worked at one office of 31 individuals.  At Christmas time the office received 31 gift baskets (unplanned).  15 of the personnel were LDS (even in California) 16 non.  15 of the baskets had alcohol.  15 of the NON-alcoholic baskets were given randomly to the Mormons of the office.  The 15 alcoholic baskets were handed out to the others who were there.  It just so happened that the one remaining non-alcoholic basket was for the one employee who was not present that day.  And his best friend at the office pointed out that he also chose to not imbibe.  Thus it was a perfect match.

 

Cue Ace Ventura:  hhhh -- Like a GLOVE!

[beefche]

No. Because the effects of someone who's consumed the one is less concerning than the other.

 

 

 

That's how I feel as well, TFP. I don't necessarily buy coffee to serve, but I wouldn't have an issue with coffee/tea in my house because they don't affect people the same as alcohol. 

[The Folk Prophet]

That's how I feel as well, TFP. I don't necessarily buy coffee to serve, but I wouldn't have an issue with coffee/tea in my house because they don't affect people the same as alcohol. 

 

I wouldn't have a problem with someone who'd just downed a bunch of coffee coming into my house (as compared to someone who'd just downed a bunch of alcohol). But I wouldn't let coffee be served in my home at all.

[Backroads]

We had a barbecue earlier this summer for Husband's coworkers, only one of whom was also LDS. Husband made it clear no alcohol was welcome. No complaints.

Funny because we purchased alcohol once for a recipe at a time we shared a duplex with the 2nd counselor in the bishopric. We found it easier to just share garbage bins and purposely left the bottle atop the current trash where it could be seen.

Edited November 4, 2015 by Backroads

[beefche]

We found it easier to just share garbage bins and purposely left the bottle atop the current trash where it could be seen.

 

Why?

[Backroads]

Why?

To freak out the counselor. :)

You must understand he and my husband were both college boys at the time.