Vort Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) "Modern agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food." - Al Bartlett, Forgotten Fundamentals of the Energy Crisis, American Journal of Physics, 46(9), p. 876, 1978. Edited February 29, 2016 by Vort NeuroTypical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 I'm surprised to see silly putty made it on this scale. But I'm even more surprised that human milk was even bigger. Public water is about what I'd expect. But I was surprised just to see it considered in a graphic like this. It usually isn't thought of because...well...it's just water. It makes us realize why some people argue that we will have peak water before we'd have peak oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSG Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 I find it somewhat amusing that personal lubricant and nail polish seem to be pretty similar in quantity to vanilla. Though it still makes me want to start a business providing impersonal lubricant. Sunday21 and Vort 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 I am officially offended at the following: * Yogurt beats ketchup * Mayo beats salsa * Soda isn't bigger, and bottled water isn't smaller. America needs change. Vote for [redacted by Pam, who is now sending her admin police to beat me with their all-seeing batons]. Blackmarch, Vort and Sunday21 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeedleinA Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 I would like to see the pipe size for HFCS all by itself, and not hidden in all the other categories. Seems like that stuff is in everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhold Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 5 hours ago, Carborendum said: I'm surprised to see silly putty made it on this scale. But I'm even more surprised that human milk was even bigger. Public water is about what I'd expect. But I was surprised just to see it considered in a graphic like this. It usually isn't thought of because...well...it's just water. It makes us realize why some people argue that we will have peak water before we'd have peak oil. Based on the artwork, it looks like this was done by the same people behind the webcomic XKCD - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xkcd . I haven't been keeping up with it, but the series does quite often venture into discussing such issues as math, science, politics, and their real-world applications. For example, one strip was talking about the cultural impact of shows like "Mythbusters" when it came to encouraging people to get involved in science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Saliva? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 This brings up a question: Does this source have any bibliography or source material for the graphic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhold Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Carborendum said: This brings up a question: Does this source have any bibliography or source material for the graphic? If it *is* XKCD, then finding the original page for the comic should yield this. They're pretty good about that sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSG Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Also http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1649 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordorbund Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 19 hours ago, NeuroTypical said: I am officially offended at the following: * Yogurt beats ketchup * Mayo beats salsa * Soda isn't bigger, and bottled water isn't smaller. America needs change. Vote for [redacted by Pam, who is now sending her admin police to beat me with their all-seeing batons]. I respect [redacted by Pam] on the issues, I really do. But I think [deleted by mod] has better character and will be a better moral leader for the country. NeuroTypical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 21 hours ago, NeedleinA said: I would like to see the pipe size for HFCS all by itself, and not hidden in all the other categories. Seems like that stuff is in everything! It shows up on the graphic. Bottom graphic, 2/3 up, far right. And that is the actual TOTAL HFCS consumption in ALL products. http://corn.org/publications/statistics/hfcs-consumption/ http://www.apinews.com/en/news/item/12976-usa-honey-consumption-per-inhabitant-is-growing-and-the-production-figures-are-going-down Based on these and other sites which corroborate the data, I did some calculations. And it is about that size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeedleinA Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Yep. I did see the HFCS pipe, but then also saw the part under the title that said: "Many of the pipelines would overlap EG. Soda / Corn Syrup". Perhaps I don't understand that statement, or what they are saying by "overlap". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted March 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 22 minutes ago, NeedleinA said: Yep. I did see the HFCS pipe, but then also saw the part under the title that said: "Many of the pipelines would overlap EG. Soda / Corn Syrup". Perhaps I don't understand that statement, or what they are saying by "overlap". I assume it means that e.g. the gasoline pipe would be wholly contained within the petroleum pipe, even though they are shown as separate pipes. NeedleinA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) IOW: If you have 10 gallons of soda which requires 1 gallon of corn syrup, the soda would still show up as the full 10 gallons (not 9 gallons) and the corn syrup shows up as 1 gallon. And that gallon of corn syrup is still counted as part of the total corn syrup. Edited March 1, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeedleinA Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 At least in my mind I would have thought HFCS would have been much, much bigger. Seems like it appears on a ton of food products: soda, juice, bbq sauce, etc. I can't seem to avoid it without paying "Whole Foods" prices for everything. Ugh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 It may not completely get rid of it. But it's a lot easier if you cook from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordorbund Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 CORN IS FOR THE OX!!!! Use wheat syrup instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 11 minutes ago, mordorbund said: wheat syrup !?!? No, no. Wheat (flour) and syrup - maple syrup - it's the best syrup. Mmmmm. French toast, pancakes, waffles.... Breakfast for dinner - it's like dinner and desert all in one. (Please stop drooling on your keyboard - it's bad for the computer (and that saliva pipe is only so big...).) The italics in this post were brought to you by the Maple Syrup Farmers of Maine. NeedleinA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday21 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 In some parts of Canada, they put maple syrup on everything! Fried eggs, sausages, steak....After spending a summer at a school in one such area, where I had no choice but to eat this stuff, I now can't stand the smell of maple syrup. And my cultural heritage includes haggis (all the bits of a sheep normally discarded, minced, laden with salt, all boiled together in a sheep's stomach), deep fried pizza, deep fried mars bars, and blood sausage for breakfast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeedleinA Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 3 hours ago, Sunday21 said: haggis (all the bits of a sheep normally discarded, minced, laden with salt, all boiled together in a sheep's stomach), deep fried pizza, deep fried mars bars, and blood sausage for breakfast. I just gained 5 lbs reading your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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