Every Republican Presidential Candidate is Hitler

[Just_A_Guy]

This is a pretty hard-core conservative article, but underneath the polemics I think it makes a couple of interesting points (I've edited a bit to soften, because I don't want the substantive points to get buried by the invective):

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To most people, Nazi analogies summon up images of the Holocaust and a ruthless dictatorship. To the left however, any populist reaction against their rule is Nazism.  In their world, there is a battle between progressive and reactionary forces. Any movement that dares to run for office by challenging progressive policies is reactionary, fascist and the second coming of the Third Reich. Republican victories are . . . attributed . . . to mindless public anger being exploited by right-wing demagogues.

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Goldwater was Hitler. Nixon was Hitler. Reagan was Hitler. Bush was Hitler. None of the latter three men declared the Fourth Reich, made themselves dictators for life and ran concentration camps. [Eventually progressives concede] that last decade’s Hitler was a decent moderate while the latest Republican Hitler is a terrifying monster. Goldwater, Nixon and Reagan were all resurrected as moderate contrasts to each other and then to Bush. The process of recreating Bush as a moderate has already begun. And so each Republican makes the electoral journey from Hitler to a political moderate whom a latter generation of liberals mourns while complaining that this latest Republican really is Hitler.

Thoughts?

[Guest]

I still think Trump is above (below?) any comparison to these men. He is frightening to me, and worse that there are masses of people who support him.

[Guest]

I'm not surprised by such a conclusion (I didn't read the whole article) on two fronts.  1) Both major parties are becoming more and more dictatorial, conspiratorial, and aristocratic (they see themselves as above the people who elected them).

2) There was a special snowflake that loved to debate on a board I once frequented.  Her first declaration in politics:

"Obama is NOT a socialist.  Why does everyone call him a socialist?"

Do you know what a socialist is?

"Yes, Right-wing."

What!?!?!? How'd you get that?

"Nazi means national socialist.  Nazis were right-wing.  So socialists are right-wing."

Uh - huh...

"There's no way around it. Republicans are all socialists."

Forgetting the comparisons to Hitler for a moment, here's a link to the Wikipedia page on "socialism".

"Oh. That confirms what I said."

Whaa???  So, do you know what a socialist is now?

"Yes, I just read the page.  And right-wingers are socialist."

Ok.  Just to see that we're on the same page.  After reading Wiki, what is your definition of a socialist?

"Oh that's not important.  I read the page.  I know what it means.  And if you disagree, you need to read that page again."

My give up...

[Guest MormonGator]

I've always thought that comparing any American political candidate (yes, even that one) to Hitler shows that you don't really understand history. It's also incredibly insulting to the victims of Nazis. 

[Jojo Bags]

5 hours ago, Eowyn said:

I still think Trump is above (below?) any comparison to these men. He is frightening to me, and worse that there are masses of people who support him.

Reasons to support Trump.

Obama is against Trump
The Media is against Trump
The establishment Democrats are against Trump
The establishment Republicans are against Trump
The Pope is against Trump
The UN is against Trump
The EU is against Trump
China is against Trump
Mexico is against Trump
Soros is against Trump
Black Lives Matter is against Trump
MoveOn.Org is against Trump
Koch Bro's are against Trump
Hateful, racist, violent Liberals are against Trump

Trump is honest and tells it like it is.

Bonus points

Cher says she will leave the country
Mylie Cyrus says she will leave the country
Whoopi says she will leave the country
Rosie says she will leave the country
Al Sharpton says he will leave the country
Gov. Brown says California will build a wall

What I find pathetic is that people say Trump is a warmonger.  I've got some news for those people: war is inevitable.  It cannot be stopped.  All one needs to do is look at the many prophecies and compare them to what is happening today, and you'll see the same thing: war is inevitable.  The prophecies of the next American civil war are gruesome and it is right around the corner and our Constitution is hanging by a thread.

When it comes right down to it, it doesn't matter who is elected.  War is still inevitable.

[Guest]

I will not vote for someone because a bunch of people don't like him and he has no filter. That's just idiotic.

Edited March 19, 2016 by Eowyn

[Jojo Bags]

More reasons to vote for Trump

Sanders is a socialist bent on destroying America

Clinton is a socialist bent on destroying America

Cruz is for Monsanto and GMO foods.  His wife is on the executive committee for the Council on Foreign Relations and an executive for Goldman Sachs.

Actually, I still don't know who I'm voting for, but anyone who votes for either of the Democrat candidates is voting for socialism and socialism has been identified as the end times secret combination that will destroy the freedom of all men.  According to Elder H. Verlan Andersen, socialism is the foundation of the church of the Devil.  The writings of Pres. Benson backs this up.  Socialism has been condemned as early as John Taylor. 

if you don't want to vote for Don, fine, but if you vote for either Democrat, you are voting for oppression, government domination, and slavery.  You will be held personally accountable for whom you vote for.

[Vort]

16 minutes ago, Jojo Bags said:

Cruz is for Monsanto and GMO foods.

What is wrong with Monsanto? What is wrong with GMO foods?

[Guest MormonGator]

37 minutes ago, Eowyn said:

I will not vote for someone because a bunch of people don't like him and he has no filter. That's just idiotic.

Well, there goes my political career. 

[NeuroTypical]

Every acre farmed with GMO is one less acre used to feed Gwyneth Paltrow.

[Guest MormonGator]

17 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said:

Every acre farmed with GMO is one less acre used to feed Gwyneth Paltrow.

Zing.

[Jojo Bags]

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“A third fact disclosed by the prophets' word..., is that any Church member who lends aid, encouragement, or sympathy to any of the false philosophies of communism is a traitor to both Church and country. According to the scriptures which will be discussed in subsequent chapters, almost all men may be guilty of such disloyalty.” (Elder H. Verlan Andersen, The Book of Mormon and the Constitution, p. 17.)

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And it came to pass on the other hand, that the Nephites did build them (Gadianton Band) up and support them, beginning at the more wicked part of them, until they had overspread all the land of the Nephites, and had seduced the more part of the righteous until they had come down to believe in their works and partake of their spoils, and join with them in their secret murders and combinations. (Heleman 6:38)


“It may seem incredible that the righteous Nephites could have been seduced into accepting the doctrines and practices of a group which the Nephite prophets called robbers. How blind can people be? Before we judge them too harshly let us look at our own predicament.

“Every modern day prophet from Joseph Smith to President McKay has condemned Communism and Socialism as satanic system of plunder by government, and yet how many Latter-day Saints have come down to accept and believe in those very welfare state practices which the Communist Manifesto proposes to bring about socialism? How many believe in and accept the government bonus, the subsidy, the welfare check, the minimum wage, and the monopolistic protection which the police power gives them? Is it not obvious that we also have come down to believe in their works and partake of their spoils?” (Elder H. Verlan Andersen, Many are Called But Few are Chosen)

 

Edited March 20, 2016 by Jojo Bags

[Jojo Bags]

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“Having been commanded by the Lord to do so, Nephi boldly told the people that they had united themselves to this band of robbers: Yea wo be unto you because of that great abomination which has come among you; and ye have united yourselves unto it, yea to that secret band which was established by Gadianton! (Helaman 7:25) “One can only imagine that those righteous Nephites who has been seduced into upholding, supporting, and partaking of the spoils of the Robbers were profoundly shocked when charged with having united with a criminal conspiracy. People in our nation today are ofttimes startled and angered when told that the welfare state practices they favor are the identical political programs proposed by the Communists to bring about socialism….The record is clear that the reason the conspiracy had succeeded in capturing control of the government was that the Nephites had been seduced into partaking of its spoils. (Helaman 6:38–39)” (Elder H. Verlan Andersen, Many are Called But Few are Chosen)

 

[Guest MormonGator]

2 hours ago, Vort said:

What is wrong with Monsanto? What is wrong with GMO foods?

 Vort, bud-we've been agreeing on a lot lately. It shows you are maturing and growing. I'm very proud of you-and my persuasive abilities and innate charm.
  

[Vort]

18 minutes ago, MormonGator said:

 Vort, bud-we've been agreeing on a lot lately. It shows you are maturing and growing. I'm very proud of you-and my persuasive abilities and innate charm.
  

[Guest MormonGator]

20 minutes ago, Vort said:

Fetch my slippers too, please. 

[Just_A_Guy]

4 hours ago, Vort said:

What is wrong with Monsanto? What is wrong with GMO foods?

The problem is that if you open your Bible to the book of Revelation, the mark of the beast is 666.  If you translate that into Esperano, and then to Swahili, and then into ancient Akkadian and then back to English and write it backwards, it spells "Gregor Mendel".

[zil]

17 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:

The problem is that if you open your Bible to the book of Revelation, the mark of the beast is 666.  If you translate that into Esperano, and then to Swahili, and then into ancient Akkadian and then back to English and write it backwards, it spells "Gregor Mendel".

And then there's UPC barcodes, and some Caesar or other, and the second school bus at the US Embassy in Moscow (where the license plates consist of the letter D (for diplomatic) followed by 004 (for United States) followed by the 3-digit identifier of the vehicle).  Yes, that was done on purpose, because well, 666 just seems appropriate for a vehicle full of little demons...

[Guest Godless]

6 hours ago, Jojo Bags said:

More reasons to vote for Trump

Sanders is a socialist bent on destroying America

Clinton is a socialist bent on destroying America

Clinton is many things. A socialist is not one of them. Not even remotely. 

[Jojo Bags]

48 minutes ago, Godless said:

Clinton is many things. A socialist is not one of them. Not even remotely. 

You've got to be kidding me.  You obviously are not familiar with the planks of the Communist Party, USA, or the Democratic Socialists of America .  Everything Hillary says is right out of their playbooks - everything.  I'm not going to bother listing them because my fingers would get tired.  Just do a little search of both.  The only difference between Hillary and Sanders is that he has come right out and said he is a socialist.  I can respect that.  Hillary is just a closet socialist snake in the grass, and that is insulting snakes. 

It's almost like a bidding war between Hillary and Sanders as to how far they will go to fleece Americans. 

Bernie: I'll tax the rich at 65%.

Hillary:  I'll call your 65% and raise you 5%.

Bernie:  I'll call your 5%  and raise you 25%.

Hillary:  I'll sell all the assets of the rich (except the elite, of course) and give it to the poor, oppressed minorities and undocumented voters.

Bernie:  I'll give underprivileged Americans free college tuition.

Hillary:  I'll give all undocumented voters and underprivileged Americans free college tuition.

Bernie:  I'll make college professors go easy on the grades for anyone going to college.

Hillary:  I'll make the colleges give away the diplomas.

She is using Obama's tactics of bait and switch, promise then lie her face off, talk out of both sides of her face, or flat out bare face lie.  What kills me is that people are so gullible to believe anything she says.  I could probably sell some Arizona beach front property to your average Clinton supporter.  If she said the sky was blue, I'd go outside and check it myself.

[Jojo Bags]

1 hour ago, Godless said:

Clinton is many things. A socialist is not one of them. Not even remotely. 

I decided to go ahead and give you a few of Hillary's platform statements next to the Communist Party, USA's platform.  I think you'll see a few similarities.

Hillary's Position	CPUSA Position
Immigration We need comprehensive immigration reform with a path to full and equal citizenship.	…The Communist Party USA is committed to supporting, joining and helping to build the growing movement to defend immigrants from attack and to roll back far-right anti-immigrant measures....
Abortion Politicians have no business interfering with women's personal health decisions. I will oppose efforts to roll back women's access to reproductive health care	...We don’t cede an inch on the principle that women must have this basic right.  Rather, we should argue for including abortion rights in a broader continuum...
Guns "In the Australian example, as I recall, that was a buyback program. The Australian government, as part of trying to clamp down on the availability of automatic weapons, offered a good price for buying hundreds of thousands of guns. Then, they basically clamped down, going forward, in terms of having more of a background check approach, more of a permitting approach, but they believe, and I think the evidence supports them, that by offering to buyback those guns, they were able to curtail the supply....” (What Hillary failed to mention is that the Australian “buy back program” was mandatory)	“...The ability to live free from the fear or threat of gun violence is a fundamental democratic right — one that far supercedes any so-called personal gun rights allegedly contained in the Second Amendment.”
Taxes “I want to make sure the wealthy pay their fair share, which they have not been doing.”   “I’ll cut taxes for the middle class, raise the minimum wage, and ensure the wealthiest pay their fair share.”	The only economically viable approach is to tax those who have the money the wealthy and the big corporations. We need a tax system that works for the people of our state, not one designed to give tax breaks to the wealthy   As a result of the decades-long efforts of the rich to avoid paying their fair share for social programs, and to place the entire burden of taxes on the shoulders of low and middle-income people, workers have developed a deep cynicism about the tax system. We know that we bear a disproportionate share of the costs of government that working families are over-taxed.
Education “...I have a plan to make college affordable. Debt free tuition if you go to a great public college or university....”	“All education will be tuition-free.”

Edited March 20, 2016 by Jojo Bags

[Guest]

[Guest]

Don't get me wrong: Trump's potential to go quickly down a scary path concerns me deeply. Even Holocaust survivors see it. But that picture cracked me up.

[prisonchaplain]

As to the OP:  What happened to the idea of "loyal opposition?"  It used to be that Republicans and Democrats could fight like cats and dogs in the day time, then socialize in the evening.  President Reagan and House Speaker Tip O'neill did this often.  Ideologies differ, but we're all Americans.

My vote is still up for grabs.  I'm pro-life, pro-free-trade, pro-religious liberty, pro-American global leadership, pro-Israel, AND--PRO-CIVILITY. So, just in case, I checked the third party candidates.  None of them work either.  If the current front runners become the nominees I may seriously consider abstaining from the presidential part of the ballot.  I have not done that in 30+ years of voting.  If I do vote for one of them, it might not be enough to hold my nose--I may have to cut it off.

[Guest MormonGator]

26 minutes ago, prisonchaplain said:

 President Reagan and House Speaker Tip O'neill did this often.  Ideologies differ, but we're all Americans.

 

When Reagan was shot Tip was among the first people to visit him. Tip took out his rosary and prayed with him. During Tips retirement celebration, Reagan preformed a little Irish rhyme "If I had a ticket to heaven, and you didn't have one too, I'd sell mine and go to hell with you." I understand how that works,  my brother and I differ sharply on politics but we're still extremely close. 

:: Sigh :: Can't imagine Paul Ryan and Obama hanging out like that. 

Edited March 21, 2016 by MormonGator