Vort Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 When someone from the other side says something offensive, label him or her as racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. Do your best to impute that feeling generally, not just to the specific case: "That's just how conservatives (or Republicans) are." When someone from your side says something offensive, ignore it. Studiously. Do not respond. If everyone (meaning all liberals, meaning the news media) refuses to mention it, it will go away. If you are forced to defend the offensive thing someone on the Left said, try to reframe it as an understandable instance of frustration with the patriarchy or some such. If worse comes to worst, go to the reliable standby: "Yes, looks like there's hate on both sides." The point is, under no circumstances should you ever unilaterally admit to being wrong. Windseeker, Colirio, Blackmarch and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, Vort said: When someone from the other side says something offensive, label him or her as racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. Do your best to impute that feeling generally, not just to the specific case: "That's just how conservatives (or Republicans) are." When someone from your side says something offensive, ignore it. Studiously. Do not respond. If everyone (meaning all liberals, meaning the news media) refuses to mention it, it will go away. If you are forced to defend the offensive thing someone on the Left said, try to reframe it as an understandable instance of frustration with the patriarchy or some such. If worse comes to worst, go to the reliable standby: "Yes, looks like there's hate on both sides." The point is, under no circumstances should you ever unilaterally admit to being wrong. There are some leftists who subscribe to this, but I think it's important to differentiate between "leftist" and "liberal". There is a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted November 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, MormonGator said: There are some leftists who subscribe to this, but I think it's important to differentiate between "leftist" and "liberal". There is a difference. Not in popular modern American parlance. The so-called Jeffersonian liberal is, if not extinct, at least in nominal hiding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Vort said: Not in popular modern American parlance. The so-called Jeffersonian liberal is, if not extinct, at least in nominal hiding. Actually there is a difference in American vernacular. When I think of "liberal" I think of Joe Lieberman, Bill Nelson, and Angus King. When I think of "leftist" I think of Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren. So yes, there is a difference. It's actually a huge difference. Edited November 17, 2016 by MormonGator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSG Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 Windseeker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, NightSG said: The big difference is that a liberal will listen to you while a leftist will just scream in rage at you. My family is flooded with liberals who don't call you Hitler when you disagree with them. The leftists in my family will do just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askandanswer Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 3:46 AM, Vort said: When someone from the other side says something offensive, label him or her as racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. Do your best to impute that feeling generally, not just to the specific case: "That's just how conservatives (or Republicans) are." When someone from your side says something offensive, ignore it. Studiously. Do not respond. If everyone (meaning all liberals, meaning the news media) refuses to mention it, it will go away. If you are forced to defend the offensive thing someone on the Left said, try to reframe it as an understandable instance of frustration with the patriarchy or some such. If worse comes to worst, go to the reliable standby: "Yes, looks like there's hate on both sides." The point is, under no circumstances should you ever unilaterally admit to being wrong. Vort, if you continue to expose their codes and secret protocols, the Socialist International Left League for Youth (S.I.L.LY) might be tempted to terminate your membership. Palerider, zil and Vort 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, askandanswer said: Vort, if you continue to expose their codes and secret protocols, the Socialist International Left League for Youth (S.I.L.LY) might be tempted to terminate your membership. LOL We all like @Vort but his leftwing rants are getting pretty old. Edited November 19, 2016 by MormonGator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askandanswer Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 16 minutes ago, MormonGator said: On 11/18/2016 at 3:56 AM, Vort said: Another McKayer here. I was baptized during the short period when Joseph Fielding Smith was the President of the Church. Without knowing anything else about me, that at least puts a lower limit on my age. 16 minutes ago, MormonGator said: LOL We all like @Vort but his leftwing rants are getting pretty old. As is Vort himself Vort, Sunday21 and unixknight 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 40 minutes ago, askandanswer said: As is Vort himself We tease him because we like him. He's a great guy and very good sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Osborn Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) I can always tell the liberals on the internet forums, blogs, etc, when if I post something it gets censored or I get banned permanently. This is one of the few forums that hasnt censored me. I was beginning to think the Mormon blogosphere were all liberals! Edited November 20, 2016 by Rob Osborn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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