Jamie123 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Whenever I sit down to do some work, I always become curious about questions like "Are pigeons and doves the same kind of bird?" and "Do bumble bees make honey?" And the more urgent the work is, the greater the compulsion I feel to research these questions then and there. Well these are my findings: 1. Doves and pigeons are the same family (columbidae) but are distinct groups within that family. 2. Bumble bees do produce a kind of honey, but only in small quantities since their colonies do not survive the winter - except for the new queen who hibernates and forms a new colony new colony the following spring. (The old queen dies along with the workers.) But here are the amazing and unlooked-for facts uncovered during this research... 1. Pigeons (and doves), unlike other birds produce milk. Yes folks - it is possible to milk a pigeon! 2. There is such a thing as a "cuckoo bumble bee". It infiltrates the nest of another bumble bee species, kills the queen, and then masquerades as her by imitating her scent. It then lays its own eggs which are cared for by the workers. Aren't you glad I told you all this? Blackmarch, Vort and Sunday21 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday21 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 So glad! ? Jamie123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Some author (I can't remember which) said something to the effect: "There's nothing like a deadline to make the dust on top of the refrigerator seem interesting." Blackmarch and SilentOne 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday21 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 39 minutes ago, zil said: Some author (I can't remember which) said something to the effect: "There's nothing like a deadline to make the dust on top of the refrigerator seem interesting." You! Love you! ? zil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jamie123 said: Yes folks - it is possible to milk a pigeon! That is a gross simplification. I don't know anyone who isn't trying to sensationalize it that would call it "milking a pigeon". Here's the full story: Most birds have a craw / crop where the food is crushed in most and then regurgitated to feed their young. Doves/pigeons as well as emperor penguins and flamingos excrete additional nutrients into the crop. This excretion is called "crop milk". This additive to the regurgitation product increases nutrient, immunity, and pro-biotic strength in the young. But the ability to "milk it" is extremely limited. It tends to come out in a consistency similar to cottage cheese or watery ricotta cheese. And you'd have to reach inside its esophagus. EW! It's bad enough that we're drinking the lacteal fluid of other mammalian species. But to think we'd be drinking extract of bird regurgitation is something quite different. Edited April 6, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 22 minutes ago, Carborendum said: It's bad enough that we're drinking the lacteal fluid of other mammalian species. No more ice cream for you! askandanswer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, zil said: No more ice cream for you! Milk Nazi!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Are you one of these guys Jamie123? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Just now, Carborendum said: Milk Nazi!!! Hey! You're the one who said it was bad, so unless you're having ice cream based on human milk (and if you are, please just don't respond at all!), you condemned yourself to this. I think it's perfectly fine for us to be eating ice cream based on cow milk. SilentOne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
person0 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, zil said: No more ice cream for you! Ice cream is my favorite desert in the world! Interestingly though, some ice cream has a very interesting ingredient known as castoreum, which is extracted from beavers (from an unpleasant area). Some people might rather eat pigeon 'milk'. Don't tell too many people, or they may all stop eating ice cream! I will keep eating my ice cream though, come what may. The Word of Wisdom says nothing about beaver extract! Edited April 6, 2017 by person0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, person0 said: Ice cream is my favorite desert in the world! Interestingly though, some ice cream has a very interesting ingredient known as castoreum, which is extracted from beavers (from an unpleasant area). Some people might rather eat pigeon 'milk'. I will keep eating my ice cream, come what may. Blech. Haagen Dazs all the way! You can keep your icky ingredients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 1 hour ago, zil said: so unless you're having ice cream based on human milk (and if you are, please just don't respond at all!) Mmmmmmmmmmmm. Sounds...wonderful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie123 Posted April 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Carborendum said: That is a gross simplification. I don't know anyone who isn't trying to sensationalize it that would call it "milking a pigeon". Vort and Blackmarch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie123 Posted April 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, NeuroTypical said: Are you one of these guys Jamie123? First guy who ever shaved? There's an interesting one. Did everyone above a certain age run around tripping over their beards before he came along? Turning into an ant. Actually no - at least not a regular-sized ant. But I did once have a vague worry about waking up as a giant cockroach, like Gregor Samsa. Edited April 6, 2017 by Jamie123 NeuroTypical and Vort 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 2 hours ago, zil said: Blech. Haagen Dazs all the way! You can keep your icky ingredients. I prefer Bryer's Homemade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Bryers Homemade vanilla ingredients: Quote MILK, CREAM, SUGAR, CORN SYRUP, EGG YOLKS, NATURAL FLAVOR, GUAR GUM, SALT, CAROB BEAN GUM, ANNATTO (FOR COLOR). Haagen Dazs vanilla ingredients: Quote CREAM, SKIM MILK, CANE SUGAR, EGG YOLKS, VANILLA EXTRACT. I rest my case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, zil said: Bryers Homemade vanilla ingredients: Haagen Dazs vanilla ingredients: I rest my case. I was going to correct myself (Natural Vanilla vs. Homemade). To be sure, I looked up the Natural Vanilla ingredients Quote MILK, CREAM, SUGAR, TARA GUM, VANILLA BEANS, NATURAL FLAVOR, NATURAL VANILLA FLAVOR. Yeah, that's ok. At least it's REAL milk instead of that skim stuff. And egg yolks are NOT for ice cream. I don't know who thought that up. Egg yolks are NOT for dessert. Edited April 6, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Better, but... 1 minute ago, Carborendum said: At least it's REAL milk instead of that skim stuff. And egg yolks are NOT for ice cream. I don't know who thought that up. Egg yolks are NOT for dessert You do know that skim milk + cream = milk, right? As for "not for dessert", I refer you to "tara gum". Yum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) 38 minutes ago, zil said: Better, but... You do know that skim milk + cream = milk, right? As for "not for dessert", I refer you to "tara gum". Yum? Hey, tara gum is also known as Peruvian Carob. Good stuff. And skim milk + cream =/= milk. It's like saying rehydrated food that has been dehydrated is the same as the original food. NYET!! I can smell the skim milk no matter how much cream you put back into it. That's why I don't like Blue Bell. And you're saying Haagen daz has the same stuff. YUCK!!! Edited April 6, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) The best ice cream has the following ingredients: (although not in the percentages listed) Edited April 6, 2017 by NeuroTypical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) It only has 5% Alanine? How good can it be? If I didn't know better, I'd say this is like some kind of animal protein or fatty protein. Or, rather, I don't know it isn't, do I? Wait. Is this eggs and milk? Edited April 6, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 We have a winner! It is the chemical composition of an egg. Sunday21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroads Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 This isn't at all what I thought this thread would be about. zil, Jamie123 and Sunday21 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie123 Posted April 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 6 hours ago, Backroads said: This isn't at all what I thought this thread would be about. I guess you thought it would be about "The Birds and the Bees"! Sunday21 and Backroads 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 12 hours ago, Backroads said: This isn't at all what I thought this thread would be about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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