NeuroTypical Posted May 23, 2024 Report Posted May 23, 2024 11 hours ago, Vort said: smooth mouth feel What is this, the title of a badly translated anime? Carborendum 1 Quote
Vort Posted May 23, 2024 Report Posted May 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said: What is this, the title of a badly translated anime? Don't ask me about the vocabulary choices of connoisseurs (and there's that darn word again). NeuroTypical and Carborendum 2 Quote
Carborendum Posted May 23, 2024 Author Report Posted May 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, Vort said: Don't ask me about the vocabulary choices of connoisseurs (and there's that darn word again). How ironic! It's usually spelled as a compound word "mouthfeel". Vort 1 Quote
Ironhold Posted May 23, 2024 Report Posted May 23, 2024 1 hour ago, NeuroTypical said: What is this, the title of a badly translated anime? In all seriousness, it refers to the mix of textures an item has as the tongue & roof of the mouth register it. This is a critical issue in the realm of food science as well as the culinary arts, but isn't something most people consider. IRL, I have damage to my sinuses from injury and illness, and this has affected my senses of taste and smell. I'm now a lot more sensitive to the textures of what I'm eating, and this has resulted in me no longer being able to eat certain foods because this sensitivity to texture has rendered a number of food items quite disgusting to me. NeuroTypical 1 Quote
NeuroTypical Posted May 23, 2024 Report Posted May 23, 2024 Oof - I get it @Ironhold. COVID has left someone in my family with altered sense of smell and decreased sense of taste. Foods that have been familiar for decades had to be dumped because they no longer "feel right". I once had an in-law who had soft palette surgery, which wrecked her sense of smell for 8 months. She had to give up fish. Her favorite food, and she couldn't stand the sight/taste/feel of it any more. I feel for ya! Quote
Vort Posted May 23, 2024 Report Posted May 23, 2024 5 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said: Oof - I get it @Ironhold. COVID has left someone in my family with altered sense of smell and decreased sense of taste. Foods that have been familiar for decades had to be dumped because they no longer "feel right". I once had an in-law who had soft palette surgery, which wrecked her sense of smell for 8 months. She had to give up fish. Her favorite food, and she couldn't stand the sight/taste/feel of it any more. I feel for ya! I do, too. When I was gravely ill in 2022, the infection and its aftereffects, including surgery, left me with very little sense of taste. What sense of taste was left made me retch at any taste of oil or fat or any other sort of umami (what is that in English, "savory", maybe?) as well as certain other tastes. I found that my diet was reduced to water, very dry saltine crackers, small sips of certain fruit juices, and oddly enough, black licorice. Oh, yeah, and honey nut Cheerios with milk. Not regular Cheerios, but honey nut. Why the milkfat didn't make me throw up, I do not know, but I ate a lot of honey nut Cheerios during that period. This lasted a few weeks, during which time I was told I might never regain my sense of taste. I did, pretty much overnight, and let me tell you, it was a happy time for me when I recovered my normal sense of taste. Life itself was very literally more beautiful. NeuroTypical 1 Quote
Vort Posted May 23, 2024 Report Posted May 23, 2024 Not saltines. What was I thinking? Saltines made me throw up. Other crackers did, too, because of oils in them. There was some kind of very dry bready thing that I could eat. That and the HN Cheerios. Quote
zil2 Posted May 23, 2024 Report Posted May 23, 2024 35 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said: no longer "feel right" It is said that it's not actually the taste of food that one dislikes, but the texture, and therefore it's very important to expose young children to a variety of textures or they will grow up unable to tolerate foods of said textures. (This is the case with me and fruit - there are some that I like, but more than 2-3 bites and I start to feel nauseated.) 20 minutes ago, Vort said: ...Saltines ... Cheerios. It used to be that when I was feeling nauseated, Saltines were the only thing I could eat. I am convinced that they have changed something in the manufacture of these - perhaps as long as 20 years ago and I do not like them any more. Cheerios have become my replacement - I can tolerate dry Cheerios when the thought of food is barely tolerable. I'm very happy for you that you got your sense of taste back! Sorry for your food-texture issues, @Ironhold. I once cracked my head open and that did a number on my sense of smell and what foods I could / couldn't eat (essentially I couldn't stand all the foods I ate most frequently). Fortunately, the taste problem went away and the sense of smell issue isn't anywhere near as bad as it was (I think I just adjusted). Vort and NeuroTypical 2 Quote
Carborendum Posted May 23, 2024 Author Report Posted May 23, 2024 (edited) 14 minutes ago, zil2 said: It is said that it's not actually the taste of food that one dislikes, but the texture, and therefore it's very important to expose young children to a variety of textures or they will grow up unable to tolerate foods of said textures. (This is the case with me and fruit - there are some that I like, but more than 2-3 bites and I start to feel nauseated.) I actually have a problem with flavors and scents. I don't have much of a problem with any textures I can think of. COVID only seemed to change how I tasted Kim Chee. I stopped liking it for about 6 months. About a month after I was over it, I went to a local steakhouse and found that they had an appetizer "Korean BBQ skewers." I thought it would be pulkogi. But it was more like satay with Korean seasoning. When I bit into it, it was like some weird flavor I've never experienced. Not a smell, a flavor. It was definitely on my tongue, not my nose. It was sort of like a sour flavor but it was weird. I asked about the ingredients. He brought out the seasoning stuff. It was the proper seasoning. A couple months later we went to the same place. And we ordered it again. It tasted like it was supposed to taste. It was then that I realized that my taste buds took several months to return to normal. I could eat kim chee again!!! ... Oh! Shut up! Yes, I consider that normal. Stop looking at me like that. Edited May 23, 2024 by Carborendum NeuroTypical and zil2 2 Quote
zil2 Posted May 23, 2024 Report Posted May 23, 2024 35 minutes ago, Carborendum said: I don't have much of a problem with any textures I can think of. I wouldn't have thought so either until I heard that and started paying more attention and realized it's not actually the flavor... Glad your tastebuds returned to normal! Quote
Ironhold Posted May 24, 2024 Report Posted May 24, 2024 18 hours ago, Carborendum said: I actually have a problem with flavors and scents. I don't have much of a problem with any textures I can think of. COVID only seemed to change how I tasted Kim Chee. I stopped liking it for about 6 months. About a month after I was over it, I went to a local steakhouse and found that they had an appetizer "Korean BBQ skewers." I thought it would be pulkogi. But it was more like satay with Korean seasoning. When I bit into it, it was like some weird flavor I've never experienced. Not a smell, a flavor. It was definitely on my tongue, not my nose. It was sort of like a sour flavor but it was weird. I asked about the ingredients. He brought out the seasoning stuff. It was the proper seasoning. A couple months later we went to the same place. And we ordered it again. It tasted like it was supposed to taste. It was then that I realized that my taste buds took several months to return to normal. I could eat kim chee again!!! ... Oh! Shut up! Yes, I consider that normal. Stop looking at me like that. In February 2021, I wound up getting sick with something I never did figure out the cause of. It was just after the blizzard that took out power here in Texas, meaning I spent three days largely indoors with a wood-burning stove, so it could have been anything from smoke inhalation to who knows what else. I had no choice *but* to bounce back quickly as dad was in a very bad way & mom needed that much help around the house to take care of him, but one thing I did notice was that for about a week or so I was unusually sensitive to how much salt was in what I was eating. Mom swears that dad and I had Covid and that she was only safe because she had gotten vaccinated, but we'll never know. Carborendum 1 Quote
Ironhold Posted May 24, 2024 Report Posted May 24, 2024 19 hours ago, zil2 said: It is said that it's not actually the taste of food that one dislikes, but the texture, and therefore it's very important to expose young children to a variety of textures or they will grow up unable to tolerate foods of said textures. (This is the case with me and fruit - there are some that I like, but more than 2-3 bites and I start to feel nauseated.) It used to be that when I was feeling nauseated, Saltines were the only thing I could eat. I am convinced that they have changed something in the manufacture of these - perhaps as long as 20 years ago and I do not like them any more. Cheerios have become my replacement - I can tolerate dry Cheerios when the thought of food is barely tolerable. I'm very happy for you that you got your sense of taste back! Sorry for your food-texture issues, @Ironhold. I once cracked my head open and that did a number on my sense of smell and what foods I could / couldn't eat (essentially I couldn't stand all the foods I ate most frequently). Fortunately, the taste problem went away and the sense of smell issue isn't anywhere near as bad as it was (I think I just adjusted). I have trouble with mushrooms, as the combination of most people cooking them incorrectly to begin with combined with my texture issues makes them feel and taste like rubber. I also have issues with brussels sprouts, as they have a vile taste and confusing texture. The last few times I've tried guacamole it came out tasting sour and felt as if it barely had any texture at all, although it could be that the brand my mom (who loves guacamole) kept buying was a terrible brand. zil2 1 Quote
LDSGator Posted May 24, 2024 Report Posted May 24, 2024 1 hour ago, Ironhold said: have trouble with mushrooms, as the combination of most people cooking them incorrectly to begin with combined with my texture issues makes them feel and taste like rubber. Do you like them on pizza? I’m not the biggest mushroom fan either but I love them on pizza Quote
askandanswer Posted May 24, 2024 Report Posted May 24, 2024 (edited) Coincidently, from my readings this morning Job 5:6 Can that which is unsavoury be eaten without salt? or is there any taste in the white of an egg? 7 The things that my soul refused to touch are as my sorrowful meat. Edited May 24, 2024 by askandanswer Quote
Ironhold Posted May 25, 2024 Report Posted May 25, 2024 On 5/24/2024 at 11:55 AM, LDSGator said: Do you like them on pizza? I’m not the biggest mushroom fan either but I love them on pizza Most of the time I eat pizza, it's of the "hot and ready" variety. It's rare for these kinds of pizzas to to be supreme, the only kind of pre-made that typically has mushrooms. LDSGator 1 Quote
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