A lot of Scholors don't Acknowledge the "Book Of Mormon"...

[markwinfield1]

Thoughts?

[the Ogre]

However, there are many who do. I do not think it is of much concern considering the people in academia who focus on the tight circles of their own personal research or expertise.

[markwinfield1]

Can you please list the 1's that do?

[poulsenll]

Can you please list the 1's that do?

I just got back from the annual Maya Meetings here in Austin, TX. These meetings are one of the major venues for information about the Mayan culture and archaeology. One of the invited sholars was Allen Christiansen from BYU who presented a talk on weaving and culture in Guatemala. He is certainly respected among Mayan researchers and is also an active Latter Day Saint. I could list others who are recognized in their fields by the non LDS research community. I am personnaly recognized as a scholar in the field of drug metabolism and toxicology and am a firm believer in the Book of Mormon. President Eyring's father was a world renowned Chemist who pioneered the field of modern chemical Kinetics and his work plays a significant part of any modern book on chemical kinetics. He was always an active member of the Church and had a firm testimony of the Book of Mormon as does his son.

Larry P

[the Ogre]

Can you please list the 1's that do?

That's hard for me (my emphasis is in literary criticism and rhetoric), but there is one literary critic I know who has discussed the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith (and is not LDS-he claims Gnostic Judaism): Harold Bloom.

Aaron the Ogre

[Snow]

Thoughts?

What do you mean "acknowledge?"

Acknowledge that it exists?

Acknowledge that it is the word of God?

[a-train]

well if allot can't act knowledge, how can they be scholors?

[the Ogre]

well if allot can't act knowledge, how can they be scholors?

I think what defines a scholar pivots on what one is a scholar of. I can analyze the BoM as literature, as I'm sure some people have, but I can not discuss it as an ancient document because I know next to nothing about how to even begin and really do not care to. Why it is not important to me? My faith is not based on archeology or anthropology or any other type of scholarship, so it is not important to me. Nor do I think it should be important to gain faith based on the words and philosophies of another person.

Aaron the Ogre

[havejoy]

scholar- definition:a learned or erudite person, esp. one who has profound knowledge of a particular subject.

scholor- definition: I really have no clue.

[NateHowe]

What people acknowledge has very little to do with what is true. Entire civilizations have refused to acknowledge God, but it has not made God any less real or powerful.

[NeuroTypical]

Can you please list the 1's that do?

Well, here's a list of people who have published articles in the various Neal A Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship publications - do they count?

Abunuwara, Ehab

Adams Jr., William J.

Allen, J. Michael

Allen, James B.

Allred, Alma

Allred, Philip A.

Alvord, Brent

Andelin, Elaine A.

Andersen, Todd G.

Anderson, Carma deJong

Anderson, D. Brent

Anderson, Lavina Fielding

Anderson, Richard Lloyd

Archer, John B.

Argetsinger, Gerald S.

Arnold, Marilyn

Arts, Valentin

Asay, Ronald

Ash, Michael R.

Ashurst-McGee, Mark

Aston, Warren P.

Bachman, Danel W.

Ball, Russell H.

Ball, Terry B.

Barker, Margaret

Barksdale, D.L.

Barney, Kevin L.

Baron, Ross David

Bastian, Lewis M.

Beck, John M.

Bell, Elouise

Bell, James P.

Bennett, Richard E.

Bennett, Robert R.

Benson, Reed A.

Benson, RoseAnn

Bentley, Adam W.

Benz, Ernst

Berrett, LaMar C.

Bickmore, Barry R.

Bitton, Davis

Black, Susan Easton

Boehm, Bruce J.

Bokovoy, David

Boone, David F.

Booras, Steven W.

Bowen, Donna Lee

Bowen, Matthew L.

Boyce, Duane

Bradford, M. Gerald

Bradshaw, William S.

Brandt, Edward J.

Brewer, Stewart W.

Briggs, Robert H.

Brinley, Douglas E.

Britsch, R. Lanier

Brown, Matthew B.

Brown, S. Kent

Bruening, Ari D.

Bunker, Robert L.

Bush, Charles D.

Bushman, Richard L.

Buskirk, Allen R.

Butler, John M.

Bybee, Ariel E.

Callister, Douglas L.

Campell, Les

Cannon, Donald Q.

Carr, Stephen L.

Carter, K. Codell

Chadwick, Bruce A.

Chadwick, Jeffrey R.

Chase, Lance D.

Cheesman, Paul R.

Childs, Larry G.

Christensen, Kevin

Christensen, Ryan

Christensen, Shauna

Christenson, Allen J.

Clark, E. Douglas

Clark, James R.

Clark, John E.

Clark, John L.

Clark, Robert E.

Cole, Clarissa Katherine

Compton, Todd M.

Conkling, J. Christopher

Cook, Roger D.

Coutts, Alison V.P.

Cowan, Richard O.

Cracroft, Richard H.

Cramer, Barbara

Cramer, Lew W.

Crawford, Cory Daniel

Critchlow III, William J.

Crockett, Robert D.

Crowe, Chris

Crowell, Angela M.

Cummings, David B.

Dadson, Andrew E.

Dahl, Larry E.

Davidson, Karen Lynn

Davies, LeGrande

Davis, Garold N.

Davis, Ryan W.

Dennis, Ronald D.

Dorais, Michael J.

Draper, Richard D.

Draper, Thomas W.

Duckwitz, Norbert H. O.

Duffin, Stephen

Duke, James T.

Dundas, Gregory

Dursteler, Eric R.

EchoHawk, Larry

Edwards, Kay P.

Eliason, Eric A.

Elliot, T. Lynn

England, Eugene

Eyring, Henry B.

Fairbanks, Daniel

Falk, Ze'ev W.

Farmer, Deborah

Faulconer, James E.

Faulring, Scott H.

Fisher, Matthew G.

Fleugel, James H.

Flinders, Rebecca M.

Folsom, Marvin

Foster, Craig L.

Fowles, John L.

Frandsen, Russell M.

Freeman, Robert C.

Fronk, Camille

Fuhriman, Addie

Fullmer, Robert W.

Gardner, Brant

Gardner, Cristie B.

Gardner, Marvin K.

Garrett, Robert L.

Garrow, Thomas

Gaskill, Alonzo

Gates, Crawford

Geddes, Ross

Gee, John

Gerritsen, Allen P.

Gessel, Van C.

Gibbons, Ted L.

Gillum, Gary P.

Givens, Terryl L.

Godfrey, Kenneth W.

Goff, Alan

Graham, Daniel W.

Green, Arnold G.

Griffin, Carl W.

Griggs, C. Wilfred

Gunter-Karamesines, Patricia

Hafen, Bruce C.

Hague, Darryl R.

Hall, Brent

Hall, John F.

Hallen, Cynthia L.

Hamblin, William J.

Hancock, Ralph C.

Hansen, Harold I.

Hansen, Klaus J.

Hansen, Kristine

Hanson, Louise G.

Hardy, Grant R.

Harper, David P.

Harper, Howard K.

Harper, Steven C.

Harris, Tod R.

Haubrock, Ken

Hauglid, Brian

Hauglid, Brian M.

Hawkins, Carl S.

Heal, Kristian S.

Hedengren, Paul C.

Hedges, Andrew H.

Hedges, Dawson W.

Heiser, Michael S.

Helps, Louise

Henrichsen, Kirk B.

Hess, Wilford M.

Higbee-Walker, Marilyn

Hill, Richard L.

Hillam, Ray C.

Hilton, Janet F.

Hilton, John L.

Hilton, Lynn M.

Hilton, Nancy Goldberg

Holbrook, Brett L.

Holland, Jeffrey R.

Holzapfel, Richard Neitzel

Homer, Michael W.

Honey, David B.

Hopkins, Richard R.

Hoskisson, Paul Y.

Hovorka, Janet C.

Howard, Sherwin W.

Huchel, Fredrick M.

Huff, Benjamin I.

Hunt, Robert D.

Hunt Jr., Wallace E.

Huntington, Ray L.

Introvigne, Massimo

Isaac, Christopher B.

Jackson, Kent P.

Jacobsen, LeIsle

James, Rhett S.

Janetski, Joel C.

Jarman, Dean

Jenkins, Joseph

Jenson, Janet

Jessee, Dean C.

Jett, Stephen C.

Jibson, Michael D.

Johannessen, Carl L.

Johnson, Clark V.

Johnson, D. Lynn

Johnson, David J.

Johnson, Hollis R.

Johnson, Mark J.

Johnson, Rand D.

Johnson, Sherrie Mills

Jones, Gerald E.

Jordan, Benjamin R.

Jospe, Raphael

Judd Jr., Frank F.

Judkins, Benjamin N.

Karpowitz, Dennis H.

Kenny, Lindsey

Kerr, Todd R.

Kramer, Neal W.

Kunz, Phillip R.

LaFleur, Phillip D.

Lambert, L. Gary

Lambert, T. Allen

Lane, Jennifer Clark

Lane, Keith H.

Largey, Dennis

Larsen, Val

Lawrence, Keith

LeFevre, David A.

Leonard, Glen M.

Lewis, Robert E.

Linn, David

Literski, Nicholas S.

Livingstone, Amy L.

Livingstone, Kevin

Ludlow, Daniel H.

Ludlow, Douglas Kent

Ludlow, Jared W.

Ludlow, Victor L.

Lund, Gerald N.

Lundquist, John M.

Lyon, James K.

Lyon, Michael

Lyon, T. Edgar

Lythgoe Bradford, Mary

Mackay, Thomas W.

MacRae, George

Maddox, John Wm.

Madsen, Ann N.

Madsen, Truman G.

Mangum, Garth L.

Marrott, Robert L.

Marsh, W. Jeffrey

Martínez, Florentino G.

Matthews, Darrell L.

Matthews, Robert J.

Maxwell, Neal A.

McBride, Liesel C.

McClellan, David A.

McClellan, Richard D.

McConkie, Bruce R.

McConkie, Joseph F.

McDonald, Andrew J.

McGregor, Russell C.

McKinlay, Daniel B.

Mclauchlan, John

Meldrum, D. Jeffrey

Merrill, Byron

Meservy, Keith H.

Midgley, Louis

Mikita York, Carole

Miller, Jeanette W.

Miller, Roger L.

Millet, Robert L.

Miner, Alan C.

Mitton, George L.

Moody, J. Ward

Morris, Larry E.

Morrise, Mark J.

Mosser, Carl

Mouritsen, Paul

Muhlestein, Kerry

Nadig, Peter C.

Nations-Johnson, Lynne

Nelson, Fred W.

Nelson, Steven G.

Nibley, Hugh W. (203)

Nibley, Tom

Nickerson, Matthew

Norman, V. Garth

Norton, Beverly J.

Norton, Don

Norwood, L. Ara

Novak, Gary F.

Nuckolls, Charles W.

Nyman, Monte S.

Oaks, Elder Dallin H.

Olsen, Steven L.

Oman, Nathan

Ostler, Blake T.

Owen, Paul

Packard, Dennis

Packard, Sandra

Packer, Cameron J.

Palmer, David A.

Parker, Douglas H.

Parker, Heidi H.

Parker, Michael B.

Parker, Todd B.

Parkinson, Dilworth B.

Parr, Ryan

Parrish, Alan K.

Parry, Donald W.

Parsons, Robert E.

Paulsen, David L.

Perkins, Keith W.

Petersen, Boyd Jay

Peterson, Boyd J.

Peterson, Daniel C.

Peterson, H. Donl

Phillips, R. Douglas

Phillips, William R.

Phillips, Wm. Revell

Pike, Dana M.

Pinegar, Ed J.

Pinnock, Hugh W.

Porter, Bruce D.

Porter, Larry C.

Porter, Rockwell D.

Potter, George

Potter, R. Dennis

Pratt, John P.

Preece, Michael J.

Prete, Roy A.

Pritchett Jr., Bruce M.

Purves Baker, Christine

Pyle, D. Charles

Raish, Martin H.

Rasmussen, Ellis T.

Rathbone, Tim

Raventos, William

Rawlins, Jacob D.

Read-Hadley, Lenet H.

Reed, Michael G.

Rees, Robert A.

Reeve Jr., Rex C.

Reynolds, Noel B.

Rhodes, Michael D.

Ricks, Eldin

Ricks, Shirley S.

Ricks, Stephen D.

Riddle, Chauncey C.

Roberts, Richard C.

Robertson-Wilson, Marian

Robinson, Stephen E.

Robison, Lindon J.

Robson, R. Thayne

Rolph, Daniel N.

Romney, Joseph B.

Roper, Matthew

Roulstone, Darren T.

Roundy, Phyllis Ann

Rudd, Calvin P.

Rust, Richard Dilworth

Rytting, J. Howard

Rytting, Paul

Salisbury, Frank B.

Samuelson, Cecil O.

Satterfield, Bruce

Scanlon, Rory R.

Schaalje, G. Bruce

Schade, Aaron P.

Scharffs, Gilbert W.

Seely, David R.

Seidel, Amber J.

Sheffield, William

Sherlock, Richard

Shipps, Jan

Shirts, Kerry A.

Siebach, James L.

Silver, Cherry B.

Sjodahl, Janne M.

Skinner, Andrew C.

Skousen, Royal

Sloan, David E.

Smith, James E.

Smith, Joseph Fielding

Smith, Kay H.

Smith, Larry K.

Smith, Paul Thomas

Smith, Robert F.

Smith, Timothy L.

Snow, Edgar

Snow Jr., Edgar C.

Sorensen, A. Don

Sorenson, John L.

Sorenson, Matthew R.

Sowell, Madison U.

Spackman, Ben

Spackman, Randall P.

Sperry, Sidney B.

Stephens, Trent D.

Sterling, Mack C.

Stewart Jr., David G.

Stocks, Hugh G.

Stubbs, Brian D.

Sturgess, Gary L.

Swanson, Vern G.

Swenson, Raymond Takashi

Swift, Charles

Szink, Terrence L.

Taggart, Gregory

Taggart, Gregory H.

Tanner, John S.

Tanner, Martin S.

Tanner, Morgan W.

Taylor, J. Lewis

Taylor, Leslie A.

Taylor, Sally T.

Thomas, Bryan J.

Thomas, M. Catherine

Thomas, Mark D.

Thomasson, Gordon C.

Thompson, Jeffrey P.

Thompson, John S.

Thompson, Stephen E.

Thorne, Melvin J.

Tiedemann, Michael

Turley, Jr., Richard E.

Tvedtnes, John A.

Updegraff, Robert Timothy

Vaggalis, Ted

Valletta, Thomas R.

Van Beek, Walter E. A.

Van Orden, Bruce A.

Van Orden, Richard D.

Volluz, Corbin T.

Von Feldt, Alyson Skabelund

Walker, Cory G.

Walker, Gary Lee

Waltz, David

Wardle, Lynn D.

Warner, Paul R.

Warren, Bruce W.

Watson, Elden J.

Wayment, Thomas A.

Weiland, Kurt

Welch, John S.

Welch, John W.

Wellington, Richard

Wells, M. Gawain

Wells, Robert E.

Whitchurch, David M.

Whiting, Michael F.

Whittaker, David J.

Widtsoe, John A.

Wilcox, S. Michael

Williams, Camille

Williams, Clyde J.

Williams, Richard N.

Wilson, E. Jan

Wilson, Jerry A.

Wilson, Keith J.

Winwood, Richard I.

Wirth, Diane E.

Withers, Mark V.

Woodger, Mary Jane

Woods, Fred E.

Woodward, Scott R.

Wooley, Scott

Wright, David P.

Wright, Dennis A.

Wright, H. Curtis

Yerman, Bruce H.

Ziebarth, Christian M.

[the Ogre]

Well, here's a list of people who have published articles in the various Neal A Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship publications - do they count?

Abunuwara, Ehab

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Ziebarth, Christian M.

How about scholars that are not a part of some type of vanity-press?

[NeuroTypical]

Well, here's a list of people who have published articles in the various Neal A Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship publications - do they count?

How about scholars that are not a part of some type of vanity-press?

You'll have to explain that one to me - I don't get the insult.

Their Mission Statement:

The Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship exists to

* Describe and defend the Restoration through highest quality scholarship

* Provide critically edited, primary resources (ancient religious texts) to scholars and lay persons around the world

* Build bridges of understanding and goodwill to Muslim scholars by providing superior editions of primary texts

* Provide an anchor of faith in a sea of LDS Studies

LM

[Palerider]

There were alot of people that said Jesus Christ wasn't who he said he was.....

[Snow]

You'll have to explain that one to me - I don't get the insult.

A vanity press is a press that publishes something at the owners expense. The term is often used derogatorily to mean that the published work couldn't become successful on it's own merits.

Obviously what you know but the other poster does not, some of the world's top scholars in their fields - non-lds, publish with FAMRS or BYU STUDIES.

[Dale]

A lot of unbelieving scholars don't acknowledge the Book of Mormon as historical. They see the book based on a number of technical objections as not fitting into Meso-America. But believing scholars who are aware of the objections believe in the book because they don't find Book of Mormon objections based on archeology,ect unquestionable. And they have their own personal evidences based on their studies that the book is true.

[pam]

well if allot can't act knowledge, how can they be scholors?

Be nice A-Train

[Elgama]

I'd like to get you to get all scholars to agree on any topic, there is no such thing as an unbiased scholar or academic. I remember writing a daft report at university on whether or not Lord Hastings died 3 days before the standard records say he did - I mean the woman had a good point it did raise questions, but was it really that important anyway jist of the debate was the side with biggest number of heavyweights on it won the debate despite the fact that really both side had good points. With many academic subjects the old guard need to die off or retire and time needs to elapse for ideas to become mainstream either that or become accepted.

This why for me Heavenly Father knocks socks of any academic He actually knows things that are pertinent to my eternal life and can teach me - therefore if I pray and ask is the Book of Mormon what He wants me to know then its good and wise to take it and read it. It won't do my mortal or eternal life any harm right now to take it as historically accurate but it doesn't matter if it is what does matter is that Heavenly Father wants me to know it. Nothing confirmed that for me more than my rather brief academic career.

-Charley

[Hemidakota]

I just got back from the annual Maya Meetings here in Austin, TX. These meetings are one of the major venues for information about the Mayan culture and archaeology. One of the invited sholars was Allen Christiansen from BYU who presented a talk on weaving and culture in Guatemala. He is certainly respected among Mayan researchers and is also an active Latter Day Saint. I could list others who are recognized in their fields by the non LDS research community. I am personnaly recognized as a scholar in the field of drug metabolism and toxicology and am a firm believer in the Book of Mormon. President Eyring's father was a world renowned Chemist who pioneered the field of modern chemical Kinetics and his work plays a significant part of any modern book on chemical kinetics. He was always an active member of the Church and had a firm testimony of the Book of Mormon as does his son.

Larry P

Are you Doctor Lawrence [Larry] Poulsen who taught at the University of Texas?

[Hemidakota]

I'd like to get you to get all scholars to agree on any topic, there is no such thing as an unbiased scholar or academic. I remember writing a daft report at university on whether or not Lord Hastings died 3 days before the standard records say he did - I mean the woman had a good point it did raise questions, but was it really that important anyway jist of the debate was the side with biggest number of heavyweights on it won the debate despite the fact that really both side had good points. With many academic subjects the old guard need to die off or retire and time needs to elapse for ideas to become mainstream either that or become accepted.

This why for me Heavenly Father knocks socks of any academic He actually knows things that are pertinent to my eternal life and can teach me - therefore if I pray and ask is the Book of Mormon what He wants me to know then its good and wise to take it and read it. It won't do my mortal or eternal life any harm right now to take it as historically accurate but it doesn't matter if it is what does matter is that Heavenly Father wants me to know it. Nothing confirmed that for me more than my rather brief academic career.

-Charley

Kudos...

We can have all the claimed knowledge from our academia training and still be corrected on various subjects that pertain to our own salvation. I have been embarrassed at times with a subject and later corrected [from a higher source].

[poulsenll]

Yes. One and the same. I retired from the Univ of TX about 8 yrs ago.

Larry P

[Elgama]

Kudos...

We can have all the claimed knowledge from our academia training and still be corrected on various subjects that pertain to our own salvation. I have been embarrassed at times with a subject and later corrected [from a higher source].

LOL sorry didn't mean to offend anyone but the more I learned at university the less I seemed to know for sure - without the gospel what I learned would have just been conjecture, maybe its because Archaelogy and Quantum Physics formed a huge part of my study but both subjects have a lack of certainty in them one is trying to understand the origins of mankind and our Earth the other the origins of the universe - I found with physics its was easier not to try and understand just do the equations. And archaeology just seems to be whoever comes up with the best story to a site or is the senior academic is the tale that is taught as fact.

I know its all more complicated than that but no way would I let people who know so little replace a God that seems to know so much.,

-Charley

[Hemidakota]

Charley, the only thing that offends me are those who are filled with arrogance. Pride is one of the main problems that many millennium brethren will openly fall. This one simple character flaw has caused way too much damage since our preexistentment.

I am an advocate for a education in this mortality. As Professor H. Nibley used to say, '…education starts in the cradle and ends in the grave.' [Paraphrase]

My earlier study in the field of Quantum Mechanics was to march to the beat of the brethren [science fellows] until I received that greater portion of light and it shocked me. I now look at the Universe as a small place to something superior and evolution subject, being filled with truths mingled with worldly dogma.

Though, we still need the place in our minds for that academia knowledge, in order to help us resolve those untaught mysterious.

[Elgama]

oh I am far from anti education - I take my kids education very seriously, we have opted to home educate our children so I need too as I have two quite bright kids that could easily get lost but I personally believe that a ballet dancer has as much of an understanding of creation/evolution as someone who has studied one of the academic studies around these subjects they have an in depth knowledge of how they work even if they don't have a clue as to why -

I also believe education does lead to confidence and I know being reasonably educated is the source of a lot of my arrogance, I can't understand why other people can't write an essay as easily as I can etc. I also get irritated when people talk about secular education - all education in most areas increases our knowledge of God, ourselves and others around us none is truly secular even to someone who is atheist etc

Charley

[Ray A]

Michael Coe is among, if not the most acknowledged authority on Mesoamerica. Coe doesn't believe the Book of Mormon is historical, and believes Joseph Smith "made it up". However, it's worth noting what he said about the book:

He convinced a small number of people at the beginning, the witnesses -- not all of them, but he did. This man had an incredible memory. He made it up and dictated it nonstop. It's very long, the Book of Mormon. I mean, it's an incredible feat of the mind. Even if it is all made up, to do something like that is really extraordinary. And how literate was he? He knew the Bible very well, because it comes out in the language of the King James Bible, which I was raised on. But to be able to carry this through to its logical end, that's amazing. Really, it is. I mean, if it's a work of fiction, nobody has ever done anything like this before. And I think it is fiction, but he really carried it through, and my respect for him is unbounded. (emphases added)

The Mormons . Interviews . Michael Coe | PBS

In spite of his misgivings, I think this is acknowledgement by an important figure in Mesoamerican archaeology.