prisonchaplain Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 The government of France commissioned an agency to study and investigate cult activity in the country. Apparently Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Scientologists, Transcendental Meditation, the Church of Christ, Pentecostals, and Evangelicals all qualify! Cults in France Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crytsprospect Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 {But before we proceed, it is necessary to clear up a possible misunderstanding: not all spiritual movements other than the traditional religions, movements which are commonly called sects, are dangerous, such as, for example, Baptists, Quakers, and Mormons. Their role can, sometimes, even be regarded as very positive:} pasted from the article Well I have studied Dianetics, Silva Mind Control , and Trancendental Meditation so I am just one cult happy person. I am also LDS . It seems any organization or government for that matter could be cosidered a cult . I wonder how much people were paid to compile this hogwash..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havejoy Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Technically every religion is a cult. A cult is simply a group of people who adhere to beliefs or practices that the surrounding culture deems outside the mainstream. The more we live our religion, the more outside of the mainstream we are. I worry because an official classification could have negative connotations and lead to persecution again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crytsprospect Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 This was written in 1998 and it is so full of blanket statements its rediculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palerider Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 According to John Ankerberg....every religion was a cult except for him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miztrniceguy Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 do we get kool-aid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crytsprospect Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 how about cult of personality ??????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crytsprospect Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 no lime jello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthiechan Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 I met a Lutheran who said that all religions are cults. However, cult has a bad connotation like the ones that end in mass suicide. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadams_4040 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 The government of France commissioned an agency to study and investigate cult activity in the country. Apparently Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Scientologists, Transcendental Meditation, the Church of Christ, Pentecostals, and Evangelicals all qualify! Cults in France If we are a cult, then the definition is sure differant than the way some use the word?:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted May 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 This thing has indeed been floating around for 10 years, and I believe the agency still exists. And yet, our groups are allowed to worship without serious harrassment. But...France is such an easy target. BTW, I'm fairly certain this agency did not mean to use the word "cult" in a nuetral or innocuous way. In fact, the distinguished between it and "sect," saying the latter were a less serious concern. I rather preferred Paul's badge of pride--We are a peculiar people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moksha Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 What did France do with the study? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillowTheWhisp Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 I must be a member of a cult. Christians are in a minority here where I live and are usually regarded as very peculiar by non-Christians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgallan Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 The government of France commissioned an agency to study and investigate cult activity in the country. Apparently Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Scientologists, Transcendental Meditation, the Church of Christ, Pentecostals, and Evangelicals all qualify! I knew that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostnfound Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 If we are a cult, then the definition is sure differant than the way some use the word?:)yes exactly..Let look at some definitions of that word used.Prison do you think that article was using the webster use of that word? Because if they were then yes we would all be in a cult..but if it is using cult like in a negative way then no they would be wrong at clumping all of those reglions into a cult..Cults in a bad way use bahavior control, mind control, thought control, emotional control, information control! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 "Cult" is one of those words like homophobe or bigot - whatever real meaning the word had or used to have, is being overshadowed by people just using the word as a way to insult someone. The Boyd Cult Scale is a halfway decent attempt to objectively measure the "cultishness" of an organization. When I take this test for my church, I come up with 40 out of 100 - not very cultish. Give the scale a try, and see what you come up with.LM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyB Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 It is not all bad..... "But before we proceed, it is necessary to clear up a possible misunderstanding: not all spiritual movements other than the traditional religions, movements which are commonly called sects, are dangerous, such as, for example, Baptists, Quakers, and Mormons. Their role can, sometimes, even be regarded as very positive.." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthiechan Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 If we are a cult, then the definition is sure differant than the way some use the word?:)"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." -Inigo Montoya in The Princess BrideFrom Miriam Webster Online. CULTPronunciation: \ˈkəlt\ Function: noun Usage: often attributive Etymology: French & Latin; French culte, from Latin cultus care, adoration, from colere to cultivate — more at wheelDate: 16171: formal religious veneration : worship2: a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents3: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents4: a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator <health cults>5 a: great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad b: the object of such devotion c: a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted May 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 It is not all bad....."But before we proceed, it is necessary to clear up a possible misunderstanding: not all spiritual movements other than the traditional religions, movements which are commonly called sects, are dangerous, such as, for example, Baptists, Quakers, and Mormons. Their role can, sometimes, even be regarded as very positive.." Sounds like the agency wishes to corral and use us for the greater good. So...maybe the government is a cult??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moksha Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 France being France, it was interesting to note than none of the Islamic offshoots are mentioned. It would be much better sticking to reports touting their many cheeses. I doubt any other people on Earth make a cheese from piggy milk. Zut alors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casslan Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Other "Christians" say we are anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted May 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Other "Christians" say we are anyway.What's ironic is that "heretic" is not one of Webster's definitions for cultist, and yet that is what most of those "other Christians" mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crytsprospect Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 those other Christians need a talking to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted May 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 those other Christians need a talking to Which is why those 60,000 missionaries get sent out??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crytsprospect Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 so true...... you know it's all their fault and when we find out who they are the world will be a better place.... :} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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