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Beats listening Snow's postulation.

Pleaze!!! Wingnut, do have issue with the statement? Unless church members live the terrestrial laws, they will be removed.

There were Telestial spirits, some terrestrial spirits, and a few celestial spirits.

Study the Atonement.

Notice anything different from what was spoken and what was written?

Everytime I read this verse, I think of Apostle Bruce R. McConkie.

Any update?

As I stated, there were no human skeleton prior to Adam's arrival to this earth. What is found in the ground for human remains, is nothing more than what perish after Adam or animals from the previous failed worlds. If they were not ressurected after Christ assension, this only means, they had issues with mortality. :)

Been there and done that... :)

Especially Millet...I would be surprise you can get a word in before his discourse.

Finding solace, between this last sacrament meeting and today's affairs with the lack of faith people do display, I went back and reread President Henry B. Eyring book, "To Draw Closer to God: A Collection of Discourses", chapter on 'Remembrance and Gratitude', "You can choose to remember the greatest gift of all. Next week you can go to a meeting where the sacrament is administered. You will hear the words, "Always remember him." You can pledge to do that, and the Holy Ghost will help you. President Marion G. Romney talked about the gift we will be helped to remember. He said: "We should be thankful and express appreciation for all favors received—and surely we receive many. The chief objects of our gratitude, however, should be, and are, God, our Heavenly Father, and his son Jesus Christ, our Lord and Redeemer. . . . To the Lord Jesus we owe an undying debt of gratitude, for he bought us with a great price. It is impossible for us, weak mortals as we are, to fully comprehend and appreciate the sufferings he endured on the cross that he might gain for us the victory over death." ("'Thou Shalt Thank the Lord Thy God in All Things,'" Ensign, June 1974, p. 3.)" Amazingly, he draws his from President Marion G. Romney.

Senior moment but thanks. You are right. Did you watch the show?

Why did you bother such nonsense posting? If you like, we can take this offline.

Apparently not! I was distraught this week's with our Sacrament testimony meeting. I never heard anything about the Savior. Not one person stood up and gave gratitude to the Savior or the sacrifice He made for us with the Atonement. Or mention the influence it has in our lives. Marty, in my heart, I simply don't understand, why not one member didn’t give gratitude to our elder brother. Besides, who world is this? Whom does this church belong too? Is it me or I am not seeing the world for what it is in members lives?

Yes..what ran the band was there Jewish promoter, Brian Epstein [corrected by Elgama]. I didn't know he was a practicing homosexual. But, he made the band - the Beatles. What did disguise me, made my heart sank, when it talked about their time in Hamburg [corrected] Germany.

Hijolly, when I was a prodigal son, I felt lost and incomplete without our heavenly family. There was no fear death. There was no love for specific members. I simply didn't care at all. I remain in a darkened room without any light. The family suffered for it but what kindness my companion could manifest during that dark era, was my beacon of hope and light. You know what I stating here when you feel it for yourself. Some here may relate to what I am saying. It is dark side know one cares to talk about or acknowledge that exist when the Spirit departs. I understand what it means now with Alma cries in being casted out to hell for three days. For me, it was longer term. When I rebelled for the stupid reasons, I never really understood the patience and loving attitude our heavenly parents have for us in moments like this. I truly believe, Lucifer had the same opportunity to come back and refused it. Let you know, I still love him as a brother but despise him on what he had done and still remain active in this world. Waiting patiently for me to come back to the fold and make our penitence full, is when I marvel with unfathomable depth of love and attachment our heavenly family has for us. I stand now, waiting for the time to embrace my elder brother – Jesus the Christ - with uncontrollable tears while hugging Him with authenticity of love and respect as to be my GOD and brother for eternality. As I would die Him, as I would be grateful to serve with Him for ever and be His servant for the allowing me to come back. I stand waiting for to meet our heavenly parents and will do the same. Perhaps, this is the reasoning of the vision of ‘leaping to the top branches of the Tree of Life.’ Christ demonstration of a unconditional love for us and the power thereof exceeds into the highest state of heaven. My advice to anyone out there, if there is hope for me, there is hope for you to come back to the fold. Never give up hope.

Gretchen, I would opt at first, asking help from Heavenly Father by fasting and with tearful prayers [with humility and sincerity for her welfare]. I do see already the emotional impact she has in your life, I do not expect GOD would not answer or reveal to you how to approach this delicate matter. Being close like sibling sisters, the bond of sisterhood will always be an helpful hand when time comes in helping her.

I know there is a scholar here that will 'beat this article to an academic death'. I have read his opinion regarding Elder Roberts book, some written articles that stem from his book that became part of an earlier church magazine publication. Even specific members of the Apostles, Seventies were against this article, while others were for it. But, we do know, before it was release, it was reviewed by the First Presidency. It seems back then; written articles were turned in for review prior to publications. It is somewhat the same today but not to the level of the First Presidency. I am grateful for this posting. It only confirms to my own testament of what I believe is intelligence and what constitutes a soul.

When we can truly define what ‘INTELLIGENCE is’ I believe, we can unravel our ancient past. Adding to this, one simple answer given by GOD, gives a member a key to unlock a special important door about Genesis. [see Joseph comment on how to understand the Book of Revelations] You also receive a prompting? No doubt…welcome to the club. I was curious after receiving a prompting by the Spirit, few years ago, went back to reinvestigate this prompting. But, what came as a answer [being shown] was quite surprising. I knew it but I didn’t have a testimony of it. The inimitable part here, in seeing another person I trust, receives the same answer on that very day. This is nothing to new to me, when the Lord uses two or more people to convey an answer – someone you trust and have confidence in. Now, the observational viewpoint of what was seen varied. I do blame myself in lacking a greater faith and His ability in teaching me. This was my fault in allowing this to happen as it was with seeing the Anti-Christ, whom I thought was the Savior. That was not case when the Lord revealed it to another member of my family on the same event. We have our moments with some revelations. Though, this is a subject matter is very touching to discuss openly. Even in my home, I do not convey this openly with my children, friends, or even my companion unless the Spirit warrants it. The exception is for someone who has seen it as I did. In this case, besides the promptings, if will require a firsthand witness of the event on seeking unison between both of us. Lord blesses us when we are ready to accept it. I truly believe, there is a lot more given to the Prophet Joseph Smith that is still not teachable today. All of us receive promptings from the Spirit. For me, I just write down in the area called ‘NEED FURTHER RESEARCH’ in my journal, after receiving a moment like this. It will reside there until there is an answer. Let you know, I have documented every article, talk, book, that deals ‘INTELLIGENCE.’ Clearly though, my thoughts of the subject finally cumulative over time that equals the same of what was given by Cleon Skousen. After I began to discuss with other forum members, Tom, use to be a member here, told me of a link pointed to Cleon’s talk or article concerning the same subject. When I read it, it was hitting the hammer on the nail’s head. What I could add to this man’s remarkable work, what was our last progressional state would be the caveat. Pattern seen here between us, we are in unison in thought. It nice to know, you are not alone though. Talmage was his mentor if I am correct. SS there is no known direct talk/article/book from any general authority or scholar pertaining directing a person to this subject. As I already stated before, after the prompting, I gathered all what was written in the bible to latter day members, research it out for myself. What is left, is seeking that answer by the hands of the Holy Ghost, for He is the [testifier] instructor, in receiving your answer. What will be the answer, has to be seen.

There is known pattern when a person sees the Savior, when a person sees the Godhead, whether it is in a dream or vision. Patternization is common habit for me but a useful tool. But you are right, being to far off topic is not good. Thanks again for your comments.

Thanks for your comments. Let you know, your input is very important for me, not only to be used in future talks/teaching moments, but adding the comments to my journal.

Thanks for the update.

Thanks for the correction. Now, what is your take on the accuracy Wingnut? Does it invoke a greater feeling for the Master?

Tell me, was there anyone there prior with your as a guide prior in meeting the Savior? Please...Stupid remarks like this is not warranted. Tell me Suzie, what methods did Joseph Smith receive revelation for the church? This answers how they, you, and me receive revelatory moments. What is the mission of an apostle? To be a SPECIAL WITNESS as you stated. So, what is difference? Their calling...that is about it. We are serving the same GOD for the same reasons. At least I hope we are.

What will you do in the millennium when you are now standing in a public forum with the Savior? “Wait a minute...I cannot speak of this in a public setting because of casting pearls to the swine or being a scared moment.” Not the case. Our goal is to testify of the divine Christ and prepare the way for others to receive the same. The point of these posting, is for members to use the same ability as any GA or called members within the church of Christ, to receive the same. When this doesn’t happen in our mortal life, the failure is us. Whether it is lack of faith, a failure to accomplish the works tasked with, or through trials of fire we fail to keep the faith and our eye single to the glory of GOD. It can happen. Even a person, who is a Sunbeam Teacher, is just as important to GOD as being seated on the podium in the Tabernacle. The, the OP argument is back to whether or not Del Parsons or the latest statue of the Savior is accurate...right? How would we know it? Like I said, I am glad that Joseph Smith made it a point after Apostle Pratt released the 'First Vision' statement to the general public.