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Nope but there are plenty that will.

It'd be nice if we all looked after each other in the world, instead of just OUR own interests. As leader of a country there is a responsibility to the rest of the world whether we like it or not, or whether it involves us or not. We are all in this together.

I just KNOW the people who passed this law don't have to deal with migraines.

Even though Britain is part of the EU, they continue to hold the British Pound as their currency. Just wanted to clarify. :)

I have leafed through the book and it looks pretty interesting. I didn't get the chance to read it fully. Unfortunately I think that what we hear about Joseph Smith at church can give the impression of a perfect persona. The trouble can come in when people find out that he wasn't as perfect as they understood. I believe Joseph Smith practised Polygamy. I don't purport to know the reasons why, but it doesn't bother me. If it's ok for other Prophets then it's ok for him as far as I'm concerned.

Licensed Therapeutic Counselor, but stay at home mum atm. :)

So what happens if you hit hard times and your husband can no longer take care of you. What if you are not able to work, hit a recession like now, husband loses his job and health insurance and you spend all of your savings supporting yourself during this time, what will you do if you get sick and need to see a doctor? It's a reality that can happen to anyone, no matter how well they have prepared. And that is why I think the principle looks great on paper, but in reality lets a certain bracket of people down, (American Citizens included). As far as being designed so that people migrating to the States will not bring down the system, well instead of the Government taking the costs of this, the hospitals suffer. As many immigrants and citizens alike use the ER for small complaints, because they can't afford a doctor and walk away leaving others hospital, doctor and insurance bills to rocket to cover the costs of them not paying.

I do understand you and yes I do get you. All I am saying is that there has to be a provision in the Government to allow for people that are needy and there is, hence Medicaid etc. But where my problem comes in is that because I am a legal immigrant I am not entitled to it even though I live here and live the same life as any other regular American. If my family wasn't in such hardship and my husband found employment then we would be able to purchase insurance for myself, but as for now that is not possible. And I just cannot but feel that in humanities sake that is not good. I don't agree with Obama's healthcare proposal. It's wrong on many counts and is targeting the wrong people. I'm not exactly sure that I agree with socialised medicine either. But I do feel that healthcare should be accessible to all, albeit, medicaid, medicare, insurance etc as it's a basic human need. And in my position right now, there is no accessibility for me. Slightly off topic here, shouldn't the same be true for the elderly who are on medicare and Social Security. From the ideals that were written before, shouldn't they be responsible for their own medical needs and day to day living expenses? What is the difference? Anatess, I wasn't saying you were heartless or incompassionate, I was talking about the principles and ideals you were putting across as far as how America works. Sorry if it appeared that I was aiming that at you. :)

Ok Anatess, I feel that you have judged me very harshly. The reality is, people have hard times. I don't have a couple of hundred dollars, because I have to live from hand to mouth at the moment to feed my family. Hard times tend to sap every penny you may have put aside for future catastrophies. I could list many other reasons as to why I don't have the money but it's not really relevant, because with the attitude that you are talking about I still should be able to provide for myself, even though that's pretty much impossible atm. I really am not of the opinion that the Government should pay for my healthcare, but I would hope that being human people have compassion that people do hit hard times and do need help. I kind of look at it as far as food storage goes. I hope that if the time comes, I don't judge people who because of hard times have had to dig into the food storage and don't quite have enough. I hope I have enough compassion to understand their hard times and share what I have with them, without lecturing them on how they should be self reliant, even when their circumstances do not allow it. Sorry the principles you talk about sound great in principle, but in practice, lack compassion IMO.

Just curious as to why my post seems to have been totally overlooked?

I've never heard of the Carinessa. What is the fabric like?

I agree that American health care is good, I really do. I have been treated in hospital here, treated well and there are more luxuries than in the UK. I was born and brought up in the UK and it's really not as bad as the commercials on American TV want to make it out to be. It's saved a few of my family's lives as well as my own. I got very good treatment and so did my family. It's nice to be able to take a sick child to the doctor without having to worry about where the money is going to come from. The problem I have atm is that my husband is unemployed. He and my children are covered by medicaid. I'm not so lucky. I'm a LEGAL immigrant and am not entitled to medicaid so I am left with no coverage whatsoever! How is this a problem? I need to see a specialist, yet not one will see me without paying a couple of hundred dollars upfront, which I don't have. My husband has paid American taxes for years. I am the mother and wife of American Citizens, but no medical treatment for me, unless it is life or death. So I stay living in pain. This is where this system lets people down.

I have a child with this. He also has severe ADHD and Frontal Lobe Syndrome. Unfortunately the ODD is the hardest to treat. If I knew what I know now, I would have had him under a Psychiatrist as soon as I could. ODD is notoriously hard to treat and the earlier a child is treated with possibly both medication and therapy, the better the outcome. ODD left untreated has a high likelihood of turning into CD (Conduct Disorder) and then later on ASD. (Anti-Social Disorder). My heart goes out to you. I understand how it is so hard to raise a child with this condition and the chaos, heartache and stress it causes the whole family. If you need anymore help, please feel free to PM me. I wish you all the best and send you big hugs and prayers as I know you need them.

Please talk to someone, anyone, you must let someone know what you are feeling and what you are going through. Talk to your Bishop if you feel up to it, but if not, at least contact a professional organisation such as the one Hordak supplied. Please try to understand, and I know as I have felt the way you have too, that this time in your life will pass. I know that is hard for you to grasp right now. Also remember that suicide is a permanent thing. What you are wanting to do is escape from the pain and there are people out there who can help you do that. I am praying for you and wish I could be there for you and give you a big hug, you sound so lonely and scared. I know it feels desolate for you but just hold on to one little glimpse of the future being brighter. There IS help for you. x

I agree with this wholeheartedly.

I have to say my conversion was overnight, and my life changed instantly. All of a sudden I felt so different, I had such peace, I felt close to Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. I began to love others as I had never loved people before. And yes it was instantly. I also knew I needed to be baptised into the LDS Church, I just suddently knew it was right. I can't explain how powerful the feeling was, there are no words to explain it, and this is no way of expressing how this all happened. Yes conversion DOES happen overnight. The Spirit works in amazing ways.

I understand completely with what you are saying PC and sometimes I feel the confusion myself. But where I have come to peace is that I think that works are necessary to live as Christ would have us live and to help us to become more like him. But I do feel the works should be done because we love Christ rather than because it's our duty to be obedient and maybe I differ from some LDS by believing this, I don't know . I guess it all boils down to we will each approach this on the level that we understand and feel comfortable with. It's almost like we're on the same page but approach it from different viewpoints if that makes sense. :)

My conversion came before I even met with the missionairies. A member was reading to me in the Bible, John 3:5. All of a sudden this feeling just washed over me that I needed to Baptised and I knew I wanted to turn my life over to Christ. It was such a beautiful feeling that I had never felt before. I was 18 and living a very worldly life and yet went out with my friends that evening and told them what I was going to do. (Which in the UK is not an easy thing to do:D). I felt the Spirit telling me the LDS Church was where I needed to be and I asked for the missionairies to teach me and I was baptised a week and a half later. Now why I am telling you this is because the conversion came first and the desire to do what was right and to change my life came because of my conversion. Does this cause me to differ from maybe a child that is born into the Church and is baptised at eight years old? Are we teaching our children to focus on the conversion or the obedience (works) side of the Gospel? Sorry if this is kind of distracting away from the topic.

I was wondering this exact same thing. Surely she should not have to confess to two people?

I've read through this topic and all I can say is my heart aches for people who are homosexual and members of the Church. I do believe the Church and it's doctrine, but it makes my heart hurt because I cannot imagine what it must be like to have to live a life that must be so lonely at times. I love the intimate moments I have with my husband and would hate to never be able to experience that with another person. Saying that I enjoyed President Packer's talk and did feel the spirit, I just wish people would take the time to really listen to what he was saying and not bring their own prejudices into it.

Oh what a difficult time for you. My love, thoughts and prayers will be with you as you go through this.

The immigration process is difficult and expensive but IMO some of it is absolutely necessary. Other parts are just bizarre. For example, I have been married to an American Citizen for 19 years, have two American Citizen children and have previously been a permanent resident when I lived here years ago. Had to go through the procedure all over again. Medicals, visa applications the lot. Even when I qualified they were about to not let me come unless my husband could prove he had assets totalling over $60,000 or I found someone to sponsor me. Somehow we got through all that. Even with all that though I cannot receive public assistance for three years, even though my husband pays taxes etc. (That's not a problem for me). So how people from poorer areas go through this process I do not understand. One of the important parts of the process I feel, was to prove that I was medically able to come here, and not bring any diseases with me. This did cost a lot of money. What makes me mad, fume etc etc is the fact that just the other month, an illegal brought a child here with Whooping Cough whose relation rides on my son's school bus. We were made to keep our children who rode the school bus out of school, take them to the doctor, pay $30.00 for some antibiotics and get a doctor's note so our children could be allowed to go back to school. It just irks me that I pay thousands and others just choose to ignore the system and we all end up paying. That's my gripe about it. This is why I feel it is important to have Immigration laws.

I detest it because it cost me a few thousand dollars, plus I had to have shots to come here legally.

My personal belief is that we are born with an innate character that is hardwired into us, but our personality is shaped not only by our character but by our experiences in our mortal life.

Oh, Oh *waves hands in the air*, I did that last year. Coming from the UK originally, that is a bit of a mind blowing experience.