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heh... at this rate I just hope the Ask Gramps team will forgive me for all the questions they are going to get.

It has been pointed out a few times that collectively as a forum we could be doing better answering questions from new people. Especially if those questions seem to have a bit of an anti slant to them. There are many reason why this happens, we understand that, but we are looking for ways to help answer the honest seeker while keeping out the hostiles and those looking to tear us down. To that end we are going to try a bit of an experiment. We would like to collect in this thread the more common anti type questions we get asked. (Expressed in your own words please) We will then pass the questions over to the Ask Gramps team for answering. When the Ask Gramps team is done then the Question and Answer will be posted back to the forums. By having an answer in an easily found place we hope that those truly looking can find it, and those who miss it can easily be pointed to it. This will not stop those coming to attack us, we understand that. But hopefully by having an answer readily linkable will help us maintain a more charitable first response. Thank you PS: For the purpose of this thread attempting to discuss/answer the submitted questions will be considered off topic and deleted. If you really feel the desire to discuss a question please start your own thread for it so as to not derail this one.

Have you read Doctrine and Covenants 119Â ? It has quite a few details about the questions you are asking

You mentioned trying going the family route... but that you can't... Have you considered adoption?

and the rest of the quote goes Forgive me, El Guapo. I know that I, Jefe, do not have your superior intellect and education. But could it be that once again, you are angry at something else, and are looking to take it out on me?

In the end... If you suspect a post might be anti or go anti hit the Report Post button with your concerns. Then once that is done post to the thread (if you wish) as if you did not have the concern. Knowing that you have done the most effective thing you can do to stop anti's on the site, by making sure those that can deal with it, are aware.

I almost think he is a Dorian Grey type... With the family grave being the source of his immortality/power. At least it would explain what we have seen so far. With the undead being an act so people don't look farther for a source of power

Richard's antics are funny, but I think the answers to what he is and were his powers come from are all going to be tied by to his town and that family grave he protected

I don't see the Jewish position of 'don't baptize our dead' as coming from a place of bigotry. Because for me a bigot against the Church or its rites would be against them all, which they are not. I see the position coming from heighten sense of persecution, and its related protectiveness to the Jewish Identity. Basically if someone gets hit on often enough they are going to start flinch at totally harmless movements.

I have seen bits of this as well. In many cases the all volunteer model tends to get the same people over and over again. You could have a sizable quorum of elders (or other group) and the same two to five people are the ones that end up doing all the work. All the time. This is not the way the Lord intended it to be either, and this core group usually ends up burning out. The assignment model is suppose to be a more personal calling time arrangement designed to get those that need just a little bit of a kick to step up. At the very least it makes the person need to find a replacement on assignment they can't fill personally and thus take a more active role. This is nice in theory but as you have noted there are some downsides. I also prefer the sign up model, but if your ward is having problems with getting people to sign up... well then the assignment model tends to become necessary just to keep things functioning

His second coming could be done in very much the way his birth was handled in the Book of Mormon. Lots of signs lots of predictions and plans. Then he tells his prophet that tomorrow is the day. To me that would easily fulfill both scriptures.

I wonder how many people make the subject of 'if they should marry a particular someone' a matter of prayer and fasting? I am thinking that not nearly enough do. It is one of the most impactful and serious choices we will ever make, and too many make it without the amount of care it deserves.

Never guess that he did it? Or never guess that he would confess?

I've come to think of the Word of Wisdom having two real parts. There is the fullness of it as found in the D&C which LDSJewess points out can cover alot of things. Then there is the minimum requirement. We get the minimum because we don't have to be perfect to get baptized or go to the temple. The church as a whole has a very good reason to focus on the minimums because it wants people to be worthy. That does leave a grey area between the minimums and the fullness of the Word of Wisdom, and that where the forum disagreements come in over sugar, fat, caffeine etc. People say "if you live the Word of Wisdom you shouldn't <Insert whatever>" and other people hear "If you use <Insert whatever> you are not worthy" And then things blow up

Welcome Nancy, To reinforce what ChooseTheSun said, this is more of a question and answer site. So you are going to see snippets, and slice of life bits which might not make a whole bunch of sense without the overarching context that most of us here use and assume others understand. The sites ChooseTheSun linked to are good to helping build that context. So be aware of that but don't let it stop you if you wish to jump right in. There are many of us who would be willing to explain things once we understand where you are coming from.

Of course not... Comparing a Church (funded supported) school with a Government (funded supported) school is going to show very clear differences. A Church school is going to have whatever the church's moralities as guide lines. Which means if you don't like the Church's stance you choose a different school.

A decision has been reached. As many have noted Anti stuff can be toxic to even strong members. We have no desire for such stuff here, and we take the responsibility to keep this site clean seriously. We also take the responsibility to help people would are struggling with questions seriously. Our decision is to allow... with the following restrictions. In addition to the standard rules (no links to anti site, no flaming or personal attacks etc.) we want this done one question at a time. Let the first question be asked, discussed, answered etc. Then the next, and then then next. Also we want questions to be in your own words. We are here to answer your questions, which might be caused by anti materials but now its yours. We don't want any cutting and pasting from anti sources. Finally please understand this is something that is going to be watched closely and it will be closed/deleted at any signs that it turns out to be a bad idea.

I have flagged this for moderator discussion.

Then it seems to me that the Adults aren't willing to take your concerns seriously enough to address them respectfully... Then I say pull the plug on the whole thing.

You said the the visitation rights require another adult. Is there an adult in this group you could/do trust to protect your son? If so then you could talk to them, express your concerns and see if they would be willing to be the responsible adult in this case. At the very least it gives you an arugment to make to any adults that give you a hard time about it. "Do you want to accept responsibility to watch my son 24 hours a day while he is there?"

Wait... wait... its suppose to be secret?! Why doesn't someone tell me these things?

Yeah I would be hard pressed to call it an overreaction... BYU has a code of conduct... If you disagree with the code and standard then choose to go elsewhere. If you choose to agree to the standard then you should expect something to happen if you push or break the code and standard. If nothing does then the code is meaningless. The fact that all they have appeared to have done is to talk to him about it is hardly an overreaction.

Your link is broken I think you meant this one SYTYCD: BYU dancer 'counseled' for showing too much skin on SYTYCD - KSTU

I totally missed how old the thread was... Then rameumptom replied after being called out on a post he made several years ago with no problem. Sons of Perdition aren't all that common of a subject. So yeah this one got a pass.

I am not KrazyKay either but I put it in the 'could be' abuse category. I see sexual relations between husband and wife as a 'canary in the mine' on the status of the health of the marriage. If things are good (at whatever level they both agree to) then then marriage is probably healthy. If things are not good then there are issues in the marriage that need to be uncovered and worked on. Abuse is a potential issue but not the only one.