Jane_Doe

This is my thoughts as well. Granted, it would a lonnng series of conversation between myself, the other person, and Christ about things. If it were a non-elective decision, then we'd have a long conversation still, but to make sure she's ok emotionally. If there's nothing to repent/forgive, then that part of the conversation is very short. If she didn't tell of something this huge... the "why not" would be a big deal in how I wish it. This something that should be told beforehand.

There was a new edition that came out in 2013, changes focused on the study guides. Full info here: https://www.lds.org/scriptures/new-edition?lang=eng

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Sounds like a technical glitch. Click the 'help' link (at the bottom of the page) and they're get the glitch fixed. Anyone is allowed to order anything, except for temple clothes which do require a recommend. (Also, if you want manuals and all, everything is available for free download. The cost for the print version is simply to cover printing & shipping costs).

Howdy @Madam_Mim, welcome to the forum and (more importantly) welcome to checking out the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints! We totally get that understanding what different people believe can be challenging- especially when there's bad information out there to confuse things! That's why we're all here to answer questions! If you're interested in our beliefs 101 and are more of the reading type, I totally recommend this book--https://www.lds.org/manual/gospel-principles?lang=eng And of course the scriptures!! https://www.lds.org/scriptures?lang=eng We happen to find them to be super important

UU stance (the best I understand it): all religions hold some truth and are equally valid. LDS stance: all religions hold some truth, but the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints holds the fullness of Truth and is lead directly by Christ Himself.

Reach out all you want-- here's a bunch of LDS folks here just for that purpose

I am glad you have encouraged her to learn from her mistakes, and now be adult: living responsibly and focusing on building her (and baby's) future.

?? What part of mothering involves forcing children to only make good choices? We need to allow our children to make THIER own choices, even if they're different than their not the ones we would make.

Is your son an adult? If so, let him make the choice: 1) have rent paid for here and respect the rules, or 2) make his own rules in his own house. If he is an adult, you respect that and let him make his choices.

But you DO!!! You PAY for the place for him to do it!!!

The part where you want to continue to pay for your son's fortification under your own roof and treat him as a child. Instead, your husband wants hold to "me and my house will serve the Lord" and allow your son (if he wants) to be an adult in his own house. My husband is an evangelical/baptist. Yet he and I hold the same moral code, and there will be no fornicating in our house. There will be respect of parents, respect of God, and encouragement to take responsibility for your actions.

He's not an adult until he can pay his own bills. And frankly, if he can't afford to pay for himself he can't afford to pay for a kid too. Is she abiding by the landlord's rules the way any tenet should?

Are you likewise going to allow your son to live in your house (and hence endorsing of his activities) if he were to be making drugs in there? How about running racist campaign? Is he allowed to do just anything in your house he wants? @JKing , I'm a mom myself. I get how heart wrenching hard it is to put your foot down-- we love our children, and we don't want them to get hurt. But lack of discipline is just spoiling and is going to cause only more damage in the longterm. If you want to encourage your son to be an adult, then you need to have him move out to make his own dissections and deal with the consequences. And yes, he's going to make bad decisions and get hurt and that's going to break your heart. But that is what it is to be a parent.

If you need to go to the regional leaders again, then do. SP are human and sometimes need that nudge from above, just like the rest of us.

We need to clarify a few things here: - Age doesn't make a person an adult. And because your son cannot yet support himself, he is still a child, not an adult. -No where in here is anyone saying your son has to have X beliefs. It's fine that he's not religious, and no one is trying to make him believe anything. -You are endorsing his fornication: you're paying for the place for him to do it. You're enabling it and defending it every time you take the stance you are. - We are speaking at to tolerable behaviors for a person utilizing a room in your house. Any landlord has rules as to what behaviors/things are ok in the places they allow people to stay. What does a landlord do if a tenet does follow the rules? Evict them.

That's a great way of putting it.

Your house, your rules. If he wants to play the "I'm an adult now" card, then he can show you that by being an adult: start by getting his own place and paying his own bills. And that's completely ok. Warning I'm VERY going to be blunt here-- Your son is committing a GRAVE sin. He is taking the scared powers God gave him -- the powers to create life itself and to bond a married couple -- and bastardizing it. Throwing that sacred gift in the mud and treating it as if it was a nothing more than a child's play thing. It is a HUGE disgrace to God, His gift, your son, and the girl involved. And you, the parents, are endorsing it by allowing you to commit such acts under your roof with you paying the bills, etc. In my house, we respect God and His gifts. You don't need to believe as I do (my husband is actually an Evangelical and I have atheists over all the time), but we're going to respect God. I don't care what age you are: we're going to respect God in this house. You want your own rules? Get your own house.

I agree with the "talk to your bishop and share your concerns" advice.

I have +30 aunts & uncles, and +50 first cousins. Some of them I couldn't pick out of a line up. Others I am close to. It all depends on people's personalities and reaching out.

Howdy!!!

Welcome @marge!

Why do you say that like it's a bad thing? Getting a couple to talk to each other and communicate is a critical part of being married, as you yourself have seen. Part of a counsulor's job is to teach a couple to talk together honestly (cause it is a learned skill) handle things in a mature way. Marriage counseling sounds like it could make a world of difference in your case. Also, is he seeing a counselor to work on his depression?

LDS use the KJV, and the verses are identical From your link: https://biblehub.com/kjv/john/14.htm 2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also LDS link https://www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/john/14 2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

This question is... strange. Why are you trying to separate a perfect working unit?