Average Joe

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    Average Joe reacted to mordorbund in Just a matter of time - plural marriage challenge   
    Sorry about that. I try to get my wife to stop. I holler out, "Don't look Ethel --" but it was too late.
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    Average Joe reacted to Str8Shooter in If you were dying...   
    I would say, "Don't be sad.  This is what Obamacare does to most people."
     
    Seriously, I would bear them my testimony.  I would tell them that when I get to the other side I will help them as much as I could and as much as they (the family members) would let me.  I would tell them if they want to be happy, be humble and obey the prophets.
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    Average Joe reacted to priesthoodpower in If you were dying...   
    I have already started this past year putting my life long spiritual experiences into text documents and storing them in my gmail. I just need to figure out how to get it sent to my wife and kids if I unexpectedly die. Maybe Ill print them out and seal it in a folder in my file cabinet.
     
    My written testimony based on real life experiences of the true gospel is the most treasured item I wish for my family to receive because when Im dead and on the other side this will be my only way of helping them to hold on to the iron rod.
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    Average Joe got a reaction from Daybreak79 in If you were dying...   
    If you were dying what would be the last thing you would try to tell those you cared about?
     
    Looking back at the April Conference addresses, Elder Packer's address was headed, "The end of all activity in the Church is to see that a man and a woman with their children are happy at home, sealed for eternity." Elder Perry's address was headed, "Family is the center of life and is the key to eternal happiness."
     
    Just a short time later they would pass away and the Supreme Court would rule in favor of same sex marriage. How profound and insightful their words seem now. Truly we have prophets in these latter-days.
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    Average Joe reacted to Bini in If you were dying...   
    If I was dying, I'd keep telling my husband and daughter how much I love them, and then I'm sure the dramatic side of me would spill out regrets, and then I'd be reminded by my husband and daughter that life has been good to us - with teary smiles. Which is true!
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    Average Joe got a reaction from Str8Shooter in If you were dying...   
    If you were dying what would be the last thing you would try to tell those you cared about?
     
    Looking back at the April Conference addresses, Elder Packer's address was headed, "The end of all activity in the Church is to see that a man and a woman with their children are happy at home, sealed for eternity." Elder Perry's address was headed, "Family is the center of life and is the key to eternal happiness."
     
    Just a short time later they would pass away and the Supreme Court would rule in favor of same sex marriage. How profound and insightful their words seem now. Truly we have prophets in these latter-days.
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    Average Joe reacted to Vort in President Boyd K. Packer passed away.   
    All of the senior apostles are old enough that the sudden death of any of them would not be shocking news, but Elders Scott and Hales have, of late, been showing the effects of age. President Monson himself has been less spry than we have become accustomed to. It would not be too surprising to have three or four, or perhaps even five, new apostles called and sustained at our next General Conference.
     
    What a somber and sobering passing of the guard. I am sure we will come to love and appreciate the men who will be called to fill those positions as much as we have loved their predecessors. But I sometimes miss hearing from Elder Faust, Elder Maxwell, Elder McConkie, Elder Richards, President Kimball, President Smith, President Lee, President McKay, President Benson, President Hinckley, President Hunter, Elder Ashton, Elder Brown, Elder Wirthlin, and others of the Lord's servants. I am sure my father and my grandparents felt similarly about apostles of their own day.
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    Average Joe got a reaction from hagoth in Reporting private messages   
    I would send you an offending pm if you'd like - but I'm allergic to cats
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    Average Joe reacted to Just_A_Guy in Did your ward/branch have the letter read?   
    I like the general idea that the Gospel is supposed to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comforted.  But the downside to that notion is when a class of persons decides that they have been historically "afflicted" and therefore, hereafter, deserve nothing but perpetual "comforting".  That's what I'm seeing from a gay cousin of mine on Facebook--outrage that the Church would dare to broach the topic at all.
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    Average Joe reacted to NightSG in Just a matter of time - plural marriage challenge   
    I will admit to occasionally wishing I had a crazed squirrel handy on F&T Sundays.
     
     
     
     
     
     
    OK, "occasionally" is pretty much "every F&T Sunday and most other Sundays."
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    Average Joe got a reaction from Anddenex in Why was it revealed to JS that 'all other creeds are an abomination?'   
    This may be too much information but I think it bears on the subject if not about creeds specifically.
     
    Let’s see what the LDS scriptures say about this.
     
    D&C 18:20 - Contend against no church, save it be the church of the devil. (June 1829)
     
    This scripture makes clear that not all churches are of the devil. However, D&C 18:20 seems to go against what the Book of Mormon says at first glance.
     
    1 Nephi 14:10 - And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth. (The Book of Mormon was published in March 1830)
     
    Looking at this verse it would seem that if you weren’t a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints you were a member of the church of the devil. The Book of Mormon was published in March 1830, the Church wasn’t established until April 6th 1830. Let’s look to the Doctrine and Covenants (D&C) again for clarification.
     
    D&C 10:52 - And now, behold, according to their [The Nephite’s] faith in their prayers will I bring this part of my gospel [The Book of Mormon] to the knowledge of my people. Behold, I do not bring it to destroy that which they have received, but to build it up.
     
     53 And for this cause have I said: If this generation harden not their hearts, I will establish my church among them.
     
     54 Now I do not say this to destroy my church, but I say this to build up my church;
     
    55 Therefore, whosoever belongeth to my church need not fear, for such shall inherit the kingdom of heaven.
     
    56 But it is they who do not fear me, neither keep my commandments but build up churches unto themselves to get gain, yea, and all those that do wickedly and build up the kingdom [church] of the devil—yea, verily, verily, I say unto you, that it is they that I will disturb, and cause to tremble and shake to the center. (Summer 1828)
     
    These scriptures, written almost 2 years before the publishing of the Book of Mormon and establishing of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints clearly states that the Book of Mormon isn’t to destroy that which they have received, but to build it up…[not] to destroy my church, but I say this to build up my church. So who were these who were “his church”?
     
    Here are two examples of the Lord building up "his church":
     
    I. In October of 1830, missionaries from the Church visited Rigdon while traveling through northern Ohio. After two weeks of studying about the Church and reading the Book of Mormon, Rigdon announced that he believed the Church was true. In November, he was baptized and ordained an Elder in the Church. More than a hundred members of his congregation also converted. Ultimately, nearly 3,000 Campbellites would join the Mormon Church.
     
    II. In the mid-1830s, a group of approximately 600 Primitive Methodists led by Thomas Knighton left the Primitive Methodism movement and established an independent religious organization they called the United Brethren. The church was divided into many small congregations scattered among the Three Counties, with 50 designated preachers for the group. In 1836, the United Brethren built a chapel in Gadfield Elm, near Ledbury.
     
    In March 1840, Latter Day Saint missionary and apostle Wilford Woodruff was brought to Hill Farm, Fromes Hill by William Benbow, a recent English convert to Mormonism. Benbow introduced Woodruff to his brother John Benbow, who was a member of the United Brethren. Woodruff received permission to preach to United Brethren congregations, and in the first 30 days he had baptized 45 preachers and 160 members of the United Brethren into the Latter Day Saint church. By December 1840, 300 members of the church had been converted to Mormonism, and ultimately all the members of the United Brethren except one became Latter Day Saints.
     
    This is in addition to the many individuals and family of the world’s churches who having received a testimony of the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith’s work in the restoration have come into the fold.
     
    The church of the devil remains…”they who do not fear me, neither keep my commandments but build up churches unto themselves to get gain, yea, and all those that do wickedly and build up the kingdom of the devil.”
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    Average Joe got a reaction from NightSG in Must LBGT freedom be pitted against religious liberty?   
    We live in the times when men call good evil and call evil good, It may seem more pronounced in our time but the war in heaven didn't cease - its right here.
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    Average Joe reacted to Palerider in for you of the US, what are your 4th of July activities?   
    That can always be exciting to watch. Lol
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    Average Joe got a reaction from Palerider in for you of the US, what are your 4th of July activities?   
    Watch my neighbors send off fireworks and try to burn my house down   
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    Average Joe reacted to pam in President Boyd K. Packer passed away.   
    Haha.  I guess teaching you how to GRRRRRR about 16 years ago is still working.  
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    Average Joe got a reaction from Palerider in Yard tools...   
    The kid I pay to cut the grass   
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    Average Joe got a reaction from mirkwood in Yard tools...   
    The kid I pay to cut the grass   
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    Average Joe got a reaction from pam in Yard tools...   
    The kid I pay to cut the grass   
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    Average Joe got a reaction from hagoth in Yard tools...   
    The kid I pay to cut the grass   
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    Average Joe reacted to Still_Small_Voice in Dreams Visions & Revelations   
    I like the below information:

    I heard President Marion G. Romney once counsel mission presidents and their wives. “I do not tell all I know; I have never told my wife all I know, for I found out that if I talked too lightly of sacred things, thereafter the Lord would not trust me.”

    We are, I believe, to keep these things and ponder them in our hearts, as Luke said Mary did of the divine events that surrounded the birth of Jesus.  (The Candle of the Lord, Elder Boyd K. Packer)
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    Average Joe reacted to Str8Shooter in Dreams Visions & Revelations   
    I have only shared with my former mission president, wife, and endowed children in the temple.
    Personal things are just that- personal. If they are shared a lot then they are no longer personal things.
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    Average Joe got a reaction from Str8Shooter in Dreams Visions & Revelations   
    I only share my sacred experiences with immediate family at most. However, many things are only kept in my journals (a very safe place as no one ever reads them!)   
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    Average Joe reacted to char713 in Confused- RM daughter is dating a loser.   
    I dated a loser like that for a couple of years, and my parents strongly objected and absolutely let me know. My problem was that I couldn't see that I had anything to offer, I didn't think I could expect much more than this guy. All of my friends had more dating experience than I did, and as far as I thought back then, the loser was the only guy who had ever thought much of me. Serious confidence and self-image problems, make no mistake. I don't know your daughters situation or her mind, but if you want to help her shed a bad relationship, I'd start with trying to bolster her self-image. 
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    Average Joe reacted to Backroads in Confused- RM daughter is dating a loser.   
    Frankly, I have no problem with the concept of expressing your concerns even to the point of "we don't think you should marry him". You say this once and only once, letting it possibly becoming a case of "you can't say we didn't warn you" without further nagging, but yes, I'd let your daughter know your feelings.
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    Average Joe reacted to skippy740 in Just a matter of time - plural marriage challenge   
    And to put up with all those Mothers-in-law... ugh!