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Yeah. He's as American as Superman... you know... the guy from Krypton?

I heard somebody retooled Wonder Woman's backstory for the 3rd time in preparation for Bat v Sup... I haven't seen it, do you know which one they used or if they came up with a completely new one?

Okay. I understand what you're getting at. In that case, I'm fish out of water in this discussion because I don't approach scripture in that manner. But yes, I'll be following along with my popcorn. I find this topic very interesting.

It's okay... I'm used to this:

I submit that every person on this planet have gone through this at one point in their lives. It is an integral part of Growing Up. The most common experience for this is that time in most of our lives when we realize our Parents are Human. That they make mistakes. That half the time they don't know what they're doing. That "I'm smarter than they are".... To keep the relationship with my parents, I go back to the simplicity of outcome. So, my dad deliberately lied to me when he told me that if I don't sit down for meals I'll get appendicitis. It was his way of putting us in the habit of sitting down with the family for meals and not getting up until my dad is satisfied that we've had enough quality time. It was something his own dad did when he was growing up. He did not think it was a lie in the same manner that he doesn't think becoming Santa Claus is a lie. It was simply what he knew was the thing to accomplish his goals. Anyway, I found out this was so not true about the appendicitis... so, I start to ask, what else did he lie to me about? Until I realized, hey, quality time was a really good goal. It may not be the right approach (I'm not doing that approach with my kids, obviously) but the concept was sound. So, growing up, I start to really dig deeper to understand my father's discipline and where it has gotten me. And I realize, hey, I am where I am because of my dad's principles. The principles were sound. The delivery - some are not too good (like the appendicitis and also sending me to bed without dinner because I got 1/10 on a quiz in first grade - the principle is work ethic and the importance of education - etc.), while others are excellent (like the way he loved my mother and demanded that we show her respect at all times). I had a period of time in my life where I hated my dad... but as I grew up, I realized how much I love him and the principles that he stood for that made me who I am today. So yes, the simplicity of outcome... because good things lead us to good choices and bear good fruit.

So, you're saying that Peter's letter ONLY applies to the Old Testament and has NO BEARING to any scripture put forth thereafter?

Uhm no. Because... Wonder Woman is not American.

Well... I'm on the "Teen-age Dating is stupid" camp. I'm glad my two sons agree with me. For now.

I guess I shouldn't mention that we spent Saturday at the beach then came home at sunset to swim in the pool? Florida snow:

Yes. This may have a lot to do with the situation. The wife raising the husband as another kid is a wife choice. She doesn't have to, of course. This only comes up when the wife doesn't have the patience or the trust to leave the husband with his chores in the best way he knows how to accomplish them and leave it at that. If it doesn't get done, it doesn't get done. The husband and wife know it's his to do. The approach to porn, is another example. You can approach it as his mother or you can approach it as his helpmeet. A mother would point and accuse and discipline. A helpmeet will ask the husband what he needs from the wife to be able to stop doing bad stuff. Make sense? It only sounds unfair if your objective is "mortal equality". "It's not fair that I'm doing all the good stuff while he slides off doing all the bad stuff!" "It's not fair that he's being loved while I'm not". But if the objective is made to encompass the totality of a MARITAL COVENANT, then, there's nothing unfair about it - there are times when the husband is failing and the wife has to hold him up until he straightens out... then there are times when the wife is failing and the husband has to hold her up until she straightens out... this goes on and on and on waaaaay past death to final judgment. When I feel particularly unloved, that's when I think of what Christ had to do to atone for our sins... he bled from every pore and hung on the cross to his death and still he says, Forgive them for they know not what they do. And so that's what I say too (even when I'm not feeling loving at the time)... Father, forgive us. If I say it enough, it eventually balances me out. But yeah, this only works because I know for a surety that my husband loves God and wants that Marital Covenant as badly as I do.

WHAT? Because you like free stuff? I thought he'd like that about you.

Ahh geez. The demand for tolerance from the intolerant. I claim, in the name of tolerance, the right NOT to tolerate the intolerant. In other words, this thread is not yours and not your safe space. Even if you started it. You'll need to bribe Pam or PrisonChaplain with lots of gumdrops to get your very own forum on here.

Steve, that Peter in verse 20 only means Old Testament is your interpretation of things. Peter himself is speaking as a prophet, therefore, he is also speaking about what he himself is saying. But, even if we take your interpretation of things, it doesn't change what we are supposed to take from his letter and that is: The prophets, when speaking with the authority and power of God, is not speaking their private interpretation, they're speaking the words of God. You are then left with the Faith Question of: Who are the prophets of God? Is Peter not one? Who are the prophets today?

High Strung Great fluffy film. It's like the original Step Up. Awesome choreography, light on the story. Perfect chick flick. Rated PG.

Don't forget the Children's Hymnbook which has a lot of awesome songs, one of which is:

By the way, about getting tuned out... I tell you, my husband on Football Season has the attention span of a gnat. I was in the hospital right after a c-section, trying to figure out how to get the baby to latch, with the baby colicky and jaundiced, with my belly hurting like the dickens... and I ask my husband to help with the baby and he asks me, "what do you want me to do?" with his face glued to the small hospital TV playing football. Arrggg... SOMETHING! DO SOMETHING! But, that's my husband. I know he's a football freak - I mean, we almost cancelled the wedding because his football team was about to lose Monday Night Football! Anyway... so, when he says, "what do you want me to do?" he literally means it. So, I tell him EXACTLY what I want him to do... "take the baby and walk around the room rocking him... maybe he'll stop crying." Something he can do while watching football. Because, if I would say something like, "I'm overwhelmed, the baby is not latching, my stomach hurts, the baby is crying..." he'll just flounder around not knowing what to do about it so he'll just tune me out and watch football. Of course, because he is Mr. Anatess... he calls the nurse and asks her to help figure out what's wrong with the baby... while he holds the baby, walking around the room, and watching football. I love that guy! And so I go through all this stuff for the baby and my husband is so happy he has this expression of adoration on his face when he looks at me and baby together. But then he takes this pose and asks me, "what is this?".. and I said, "The Heisman Trophy". And he looks at me with complete surprise that I knew what the Heisman Trophy is let alone what it looks like... and he breaks out in a big grin... and gives me diamond earrings the next day... not because I just went through 24 hours of labor plus a c-section... but because I knew what The Heisman Trophy is. Yeah, people think we're crazy... but, I've started to love his football obsession (I still don't like football although I can tolerate it), and just know that if I want him to listen to me, I have to stand right between him and his game and tell him, "THIS CAN'T WAIT... YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO ME RIGHT NOW AND YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION". And he will... even if it's the last 30 seconds of the 4th quarter with the offense down by 1 point driving at the 50-yard line...

Well, having seen the Longest Ride, I have now learned that you don't need this bullpucky... you can just string a 50 gallon drum to your rafters...

WHAAAAA???? You spent a decade-long mission in the 90's or something? Mmmbop only played like... every 30 minutes on the FM pop stations back in its day...

Rush. Of course. Never heard of the other one. C'mon... Mmmbop is mid-90's y'all! LOL!

Simonn and Garfunkel? Man... that's before my time. Hah hah. Although... the fam love to jam to Sounds of Silence because the harmonizing is always fun to get into. LOL.

Right. So Steve: The full import of verses 20-21 is as follows: (Did you say you prefer the NIV? I can't remember... let's just use that here) 20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. 21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. Verse 20 states that when prophets prophesy (assumed to hold the proper authority, otherwise they won't be called prophets in Scripture), it is not their own interpretation of the word of God. Rather it is THE Word of God. Verse 21 states that even though they are human with human will and, as such, are also working out their own salvation, when they speak with the power of the Holy Spirit, they speak for God. Neither verse applies to anybody who does not have the prophetic authority to speak for God. In the LDS Church, we hold faith that the 15 people in the First Presidency and Quroum of 12 Apostles have this prophetic authority to speak for God. Therefore, anybody studying scripture with their own personal revelation of the Holy Spirit or biblical arguments or logical reasoning will always receive revelation that is not contrary to the words of the prophets. If it is contrary, then we need to study it more and see how that is - it could possibly be that one's understanding of scripture is flawed or it could be that one's understanding of the words of the modern prophets is flawed... or both. So we get to study it some more. Therefore, what you need to do is figure out for yourself if the 15 people in the LDS First Presidency and Quorum of Apostles ARE TRUE PROPHETS. That's for you to take to the Lord and the revelation of the Holy Spirit. It's not something you can rely on Biblical Arguments or reason. It is simply a matter of Faith. Then Verse 20-21 gets to hold a different meaning.

Me, Legend of Drizzt.

Me, Legend of Drizzt.

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Just a slight correction - might be relevant but might also be moot... On the bolded part... the origin is God. And then the 2nd sentence falls right into its place... God reveals His words through prophets. Carry on...