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    DennisTate got a reaction from Traveler in I am predicting a surge of LDS tourism to Israel and....   
    Thank you immensely for this...... I think I shall reach out and contact them.

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    DennisTate reacted to Traveler in I am predicting a surge of LDS tourism to Israel and....   
    Daniel Rona is an Israeli citizen, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and has been a licensed Israeli tour guide for over 40 years.  His son has joined him as a licensed Israeli tour guide.  There has been many years of cooperation between the Church and many Israeli groups that includes the building of the LDS Jerusalem Center.
    The Traveler
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    DennisTate reacted to mirkwood in So It Begins   
    I prophesy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left, for their wickedness in permitting the murder of men, women and children, and the wholesale plunder and extermination of thousands of her citizens to go unpunished, thereby perpetrating a foul and corroding blot upon the fair fame of this great republic, the very thought of which would have caused the high-minded and patriotic framers of the Constitution of the United States to hide their faces with shame.
    ( Source: Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith 302-03)
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    DennisTate reacted to Carborendum in So It Begins   
    I was saying earlier that the riots are really about removing the symbols of the old empire and replacing them with new ones.  I was waiting for what the new symbols would be because that would reveal the true agenda.
    The first suggestion is upon us already. They've torn down the statue of Francis Scott Key.
    Ever since Kapernick knelt (and really, quite a bit before him) there has been a noticeable movement to end the playing of the Star Spangled Banner as our national anthem because there is one use of the word "slave" in one of the less sung verses.
    Now, the first suggestion by Yahoo Music is to replace it with Imagine.
    So, we replace a statement of courage under fire and triumph over impossible odds... with a statement of unity under atheism and communism and a complete lack of motivation to do anything useful.
    I'll admit that the tune is beautiful in its simplicity and mesmerizing tones.  But the lyrics are absolutely against everything I hold dear.  God, Family, Country.
    Evil wrapped up in a package of peace, unity, and love.  I wanna know why there aren't any rainbows, unicorns, and fluffy bunnies.  Oh, wait...

    Now, THAT really is pure evil.
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    DennisTate reacted to Carborendum in Does Multiverse Theory fit with Ezekiel 37 and the White Throne Judgment?   
    I don't know about any such connection.  Maybe.
    But what BA says is largely true.  The beginnings of the multi-universe theory was that there were too many "coincidences" (for lack of a better word) in this universe to be easily explained by randomness.  So, they deduced that there must be many universes where such coincidences were NOT found.
    By multiplying by an additional infinity, they could easily explain all these "coincidences" without having to resort to intelligence as the cause.
    It's just a "little" infinity.  Nothing to see here.
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    DennisTate reacted to Vort in Proposal for LDS Noahide Movement on Saturdays at many wards.   
    I hope the story is true.
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    DennisTate got a reaction from prisonchaplain in Pentecostal Prisonchaplain Preaches about Pentecost   
    I just listened to your message........  very well done.... very powerful indeed!
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    DennisTate reacted to prisonchaplain in Pentecostal Prisonchaplain Preaches about Pentecost   
    Yesterday was the Day of Pentecost, and I was invited as the virtual preacher.
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    DennisTate reacted to Still_Small_Voice in Plandemic and 5G conspiracies and...   
    I believe this is what it will be like after the LORD comes again on this Earth during His millennium reign.  It's too bad I might not live to see it in this life.  This is likely what it was partially like during the 200 years after Christ's visit to the people in the Americas.  They implemented the teachings of the LORD, lifted each other up, built many great things, helped and loved one another.  It would have been amazing to live during those days in the past or with the people of Enoch.  The people of Melchizedek would have been a great people to dwell with as well.
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    DennisTate reacted to anatess2 in Plandemic and 5G conspiracies and...   
    Add to that the information superhighway and we just now created the design template for how to imprison people in their own homes...
    It's great to realize that Americans can mouth liberty all they want but they'll give it up that easily.
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    DennisTate reacted to Jedi_Nephite in Plandemic and 5G conspiracies and...   
    I think there is much plausibility to the claims made in the Plandemic video. You have to do some due diligence to verify Judy Mikovits’ claims, but it is there. One has to wonder, why Would YouTube and Facebook go to such great lengths to have this video removed, unless there was some truth to it? There is plenty of garbage on YouTube and Facebook, but they consider this enough of a threat to have it removed? It doesn’t make sense.
    However, whether or not you believe the claims made in the video, it doesn’t take a conspiracy theorist to realize that something doesn’t add up here. This whole COVID-19 ordeal, and the government’s reaction to it, has never made any sense. Since when do we quarantine healthy people? And since when do we shutdown the economy, especially for months at a time? It’s unprecedented, unconstitutional, un-American, and just plain idiotic.
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    DennisTate reacted to pam in Plandemic and 5G conspiracies and...   
    I'm with you TFP.  The conspiracy theories and all are getting really old to me right now.  I almost even hate seeing my own brother post anything.  He's gotten as bad as the rest.  
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    DennisTate reacted to NeuroTypical in Plandemic and 5G conspiracies and...   
    No, this is just what some people are becoming.  Worldwide crises like these have an impact on people, some of them change.  Sometimes it's a change for the better, a saved marriage here, a loser becomes a motivated winner there.  Some people just get scared and end up believing whackadoodle nonsense because somehow it's the only thing that makes sense to them.
    It's ok to think of these last folks charitably.  Some folks just don't have the ability to deal with 85,000 dead, are unable to grasp the context necessary to form rational opinions about reality.   I mean, most of 'em are just stubborn or afraid or willfully ignorant, but a few of them just lack the tools to be anything but wrong.
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    DennisTate reacted to The Folk Prophet in Plandemic and 5G conspiracies and...   
    ...what in the world is going on?! The license to go crazy has gone mainstream.
    Seriously. One of my closest friends for the last 20 years sent me the Plandemic video and when I didn't buy off on its full legitimacy immediately he flipped out and cut off our relationship for good. Is this what we're becoming?
    I'm only trying to exert the smallest amount of moderation in my views. (Surprise, surprise, I can be moderate in some things.) But apparently any sort of moderation and hoping/waiting for facts is unacceptable any longer.
    The kind of things I'm seeing people post on social media and believing whole-hog without evidence is...well, it's truly shocking.
    I know there's evil in the world. I know there's evil in government. I know there's evil in big pharm. I know there's evil in capitalism. I know there's evil in socialism. I know there's evil pretty much everywhere. Does that mean I have to buy off on any youtube video that supports someone's particular narrative or I'm the bad guy? Sure...I'm concerned by these evils. I'm much more concerned by the evil that seems to be stewing and brewing in my friends, neighbors, and family. The hatred and bitterness I'm seeing from them on Facebook and the like. We're supposed to be followers of Christ. And we're supposed to be one in Him. We're not supposed to hate each other for not buying off on all the minutia of our particular extreme brand of political think.
    Anyhow, I'm not really joining again here, but I do read, and thought the discussion of some of these conspiracies and the like would be interesting. So go for it.
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    DennisTate reacted to NeuroTypical in Plandemic and 5G conspiracies and...   
    Both the existence and details of this virus, and the all the different national/federal/state/local government's various reactions to it, have all made perfect sense to me...
    Since we got a new virus with a high R0 value, where people can be carriers for days and not have any symptoms.
    Since we got a new virus with a high R0 value, where people can be carriers for days and not have any symptoms, and the thing has a higher fatality rate than the usual flu.
    No really, high R0 value, asymptomatic carriers, and higher death rate.  Those are three things.  They're the things that make everything make perfect sense.  If you don't understand or believe one or more of them, I suppose you could have your beliefs about it.  But I both understand and believe all 3, and it all makes sense to me.
    Governors shutting things down, doesn't have a single thing to do with the federal constitution.  It has to do with the individual states' constitutions.  I wish more people would understand this important point.  State governments don't get their rights from the constitution, they get them from the people.  
    Best dang thing I've seen during this whole thing: A reporter asked Trump something like "You just said that you wish more states would X, and yet there are reports that some states are not X-ing.  Why doesn't your administration do more to make these governors X?"   Trump replied "Well, there's this thing called the constitution..."
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    DennisTate reacted to JohnsonJones in Are LDS open to Theistic Evolutionary Theory?   
    Something VERY controversial that I've thought upon but do not know what to think on it (no real opinion formed yet).  It's born of some Christians trying to equate creationism with that of our theories of evolution, the universe, and scientific ideas of how the universe, this earth, and life on it occurred.
    There is an idea (and there is a similar one for the Book of Mormon as well) of WHY the Children of Israel were the chosen people of the Lord.  They were his literal offspring (or, in otherwords, the real children of Adam).
    In this idea, there were MEN and then there were the Children of Heaven.  I gather this is ALL from one verse found in Genesis 6, verse 2.  It says that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them of wives all which they chose.  The idea is that there were men on the earth already, but they were NOT the actual children of Adam.  Thus, what happened was intermingling.
    This allows for evolution to have occurred, but also the creation and fall of Adam.  Thus, those that are the actual children of Adam are the ones that are gathered and saved under the umbrella of the Lord's atonement.  With the spread of the seed of Abraham throughout the world, it would encompass MANY in this world, but only those that are true children heed the call of Christianity and the Lord and follow him, while those that are not do not necessarily follow this call.
    This means that evolution occurred, and when Adam fell, he came into the mortal world among these mortal beings that had evolved from Apes...but Adam himself...did NOT evolve from Apes but was of a Father in Heaven.
    Now, I am under the impression this is NOT that much of an accepted idea in the Church or my faith.  I'm not sure where I stand on it.  It COULD explain a good many things (why there were a special and select group of Children and People of the Lord rather than ALL people being his children...though there are also other explanations to it, as well as how genetically we were diverse enough to continue as a species...scientifically speaking...two individuals do not have enough genetic variability to really keep a species going without a GREAT DEAL of interaction with scientific items that were probably not around in the primitive societies prior to 100 years ago...etc...etc...etc).  However, I think that it is not something that would be really accepted in our faith by most.
    However, I think it is an example of people of faith trying to figure out how science and religion may both be accurate and true, without the one contradicting the other.
    (PS: And for those wondering, though I think it's come up on these forums before, is the idea that Lehi's family had a similar experience.  There were other inhabitants on the American continent, and that the families of Laman and Lemuel and possibly some of the sons of Ishamael intermingled with them, and possibly the Nephites, though it sounds more like they could have been more pure in that they did not intermingle their bloodlines, and thus created the genetic variability as well as the numbers to have wars and other items in the short span that they apparently did.  Very similar to the Adam and Eve with evolutionary theory ideas I've heard, but obviously slightly different as well).
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    DennisTate reacted to MrShorty in Are LDS open to Theistic Evolutionary Theory?   
    So, it isn't so much that evolutionists fail to present evidence for their theory, it's that creationists reject the evidence that has been presented. I suppose the thing that we disagree on is why fossil evidence can or cannot be used as evidence for macroevolution.
    Wikipedia has a fairly extensive summary article on the evidences for evolution. It includes evidence from the fossil record.
    I would like to note that I have mostly enjoyed this discussion, as it has mostly avoided the worst of the contentions that often bring more heat than light to this debate. I don't expect either side to convince the other in a lowly forum like this, but it is nice for once to have the debate go on without accusations of apostasy or similar.
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    DennisTate reacted to Traveler in Are LDS open to Theistic Evolutionary Theory?   
    Interesting thoughts - but do you realize that G-d created the shark before he created the dinosaurs and has not improved on its basic design since then.  Also that many consider mankind to be his greatest creative achievement - but he used himself for that design - which is a design what existed long before even the shark?  Why did he wait so long to create man - when he already a working prototype?
    The Traveler 
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    DennisTate reacted to ldsguy422 in Are LDS open to Theistic Evolutionary Theory?   
    Macroevolution, the idea that essentially one animal can change into another kind. That's much, much different than microevolution, which is something like horses, and donkeys, and zebras all deriving from the same common ancestor. But, that's where the evolution stops. You don't cross over into other kinds. At least we don't have any evidence for this. Some like to argue that it takes millions and millions of years to see the results of macroevolution; they'll say it's basically microevolution + microevolution + microevolution... a thousand times over. Okay, I get that. But, there's still no evidence for it. It's hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that the offspring of a parent will produce something other than its own kid.
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    DennisTate reacted to ldsguy422 in Are LDS open to Theistic Evolutionary Theory?   
    Yup. The Hebrew word for create, bara, doesn't mean to create something out of nothing. It more appropriately means to organize, the same way a man might assemble raw material to "create" a vehicle. This seems to be in alignment with the law of conservation of mass, which states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. God was not creating ex nihilo as  you say, he was simply organizing matter that already existed. 
    Microevolution is a scientific fact. There's no denying that. It's observable, it's repeatable, it's testable. We can see this within the canine and feline families. The macro side of evolution is the one where people have trouble wrapping their heads around. Believing that the offspring of one taxonomic group can change to another group is very difficult to reconcile. I believe in evolution in the sense that things change over time. But, I believe there are limits within each species. 
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    DennisTate got a reaction from Anddenex in Are LDS open to Theistic Evolutionary Theory?   
    Thank you immensely for this.......
    Here is a statement from a near death experiencer that I think Latter day Saints will tend to take more seriously and understand better than most Evangelical Christians will tend to do.

    Dr. Richard Eby:
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    DennisTate reacted to Dismatt in Are LDS open to Theistic Evolutionary Theory?   
    Well, compare this to what's said in Abraham (4:20-21):
    20 And the Gods said: Let us prepare the waters to bring forth abundantly the moving creatures that have life; and the fowl, that they may fly above the earth in the open expanse of heaven.
    21 And the Gods prepared the waters that they might bring forth great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters were to bring forth abundantly after their kind; and every winged fowl after their kind. And the Gods saw that they would be obeyed, and that their plan was good.
    24 And the Gods prepared the earth to bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle and creeping things, and beasts of the earth after their kind; and it was so, as they had said.
    A few things I find interesting here: the waters/earth are described as being "prepared" to bring forth "after their/his kind". Based on this description it doesn't appear to me that whales or the living creatures were created on the spot but that the environment was prepared to to be brought forth and the Gods watch and see that they were obeyed. Also in v2 it states "and the Spirit of the Gods was brooding upon the face of the waters." An 1828 dictionary of "Brood" gives: "To sit on and cover, as a fowl on her eggs for the purpose of warming them and hatching chickens, or as a hen over her chickens, to warm and protect them."
    Notice also the creation of man is described separately.
    I only find this interesting, I don't expect to understand the creation process and I know evolution has been denied by Church leaders but currently takes no stance. I just find it interesting that this sounds very similar to the general consensus among scientists.
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    DennisTate reacted to Anddenex in Are LDS open to Theistic Evolutionary Theory?   
    Here is a good article to read from a First Presidency of the Church given in 1909, "Origin of Man."
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    DennisTate reacted to Br-Ahman in Does Multiverse Theory fit with Ezekiel 37 and the White Throne Judgment?   
    It seems obvious to me, from these NDEs and from many scriptures, that God can SEE all possible futures (and can show glimpses of them to some of us, when it serves His purposes), but believing that all of these possible futures are actually playing out at the same time in alternate universes is an INIFINITELY DIFFERENT thing. I would have to agree with Vort (the user) and call that "silly" and "nonsensical".
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    DennisTate reacted to Carborendum in Could the HOLY SPIRIT be YHWH the Mother?   
    You had once stated that you were interested in being baptized as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.  We do NOT hold NDEs to be scripture.  So, if you're not willing to plow your field and re-sow, you're not ready for the waters of baptism.
    The Church is enlightened by more people who carry with them the Spirit of God into the Church.  Your intent from the beginning has been to bring with you all manner of false doctrine so that you may be driven with the wind and tossed.
    STOP IT!
    Humble yourself and learn from the Oracles of God.  Learn from actual scriptures rather than the privately interpreted house-of-cards that you've formed for yourself.  Those who have claimed NDEs are NOT PROPHETS!!! just because they claim an NDE. Stop treating them as such.