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@mikbone our friendly boomer lawyer @Just_A_Guy made some great points. I recommend not betting the house on the authenticity of the pic!

I can tell. It’s cool to see my friend.

So in your view, this picture is accurate?

That’s my sole “issue” with this pic. It just doesn't look like him to me, judging on how I’ve seen him portrayed in other paintings . In the end though, I’m certainly no expert. If it’s him, very cool

This really is an amazing find. Hope it’s authentic

We agree in part, though I think the progressives out there aren’t as evil as Christians make them out to be. Also, this goes back to what we said about fishbowls. If you don’t know any LDS, then it’s easier to paint them as crazy or worse. If you don’t know any progressives, same thing.

Yes, agree fully. When you swim in one fishbowl only you begin to delude yourself. Nope. With the exception of the professional atheists like Dawkins and Mahr, the average atheist in America would protest in the streets if the government banned religion. The awful truth is that apathy is far more destructive to religious growth than the atheist who screams in rage at God. A growing amount of people simply don’t care about religion.

More context: gay marriage and abortion are vastly different issues. The right won a victory on abortion recently, but gay marriage is a totally different fight. @NeuroTypical-this is very fascinating, but I’m still terrified that religious belief is in a free fall. I know I’ve said it before and I apologize, but the Southern Baptists down here put cotton in their ears, blamed a liberal conspiracy, the media, etc, and are just now waking up to the reality that their churches are in a death spiral. The Catholics up north are learning this too. Blame “the gays”, blame “the left” blame whatever you want, but the pews are still empty. We can ignore reality, but reality doesn’t ignore us.

Very true. Most wards have a bunch of people who genuinely want to help you. You don’t need to be someone’s home teacher in order to just be their friend.

You might be right. Sure, those people absolutely exist in the church. It’s more their problem the ours though. That kind of attitude you are describing is more self destructive than anything else. The other thing is that those you describe often think they have far more power and influence then they think they do. But I truly, truly believe that the overwhelming majority of people in the church are not like the ones you are describing.

Not an argument, but what can the church repent from? Many LDS already struggle with being way too hard on themselves. 80% of LDS would give you the shirt off their back if you were in need. Most are polite, decent, neighborly. What do they need to repent for?

Very cool!

Update: I’m donating to a first responder charity if Utah wins, he’s donating to the Elizabeth Glaser Pediatric Aids foundation if the Gators win.

No worries. If we agreed on everything none of us would be here. Also, in the big picture like I mentioned I’m with second amendment advocates on virtually everything else.

I actually agree with that statement 100%, but to me it’s irrelevant. I have the right to own a gun for self defense, hunting….basically whatever reason I want to.

I have better hair too.

Actually, on the contrary, you are one of the few people who has read more than I have about the Titanic. I hate admitting this due to my massive and fragile ego, but you know way, way way more about her than I ever will.

It’s an interesting issue. Those who want to take the guns also want to defund the police. So I don’t know who will take the guns. And, on the flip side, those who scream “Molon Labe” also have “Back the Blue” bumper stickers. So when the police go door to door to confiscate guns….these guys will be very confused.

Not sure about that. The coal fire had little to do with it sinking, and it wasn’t racing to New York. https://www.quora.com/Why-was-it-such-a-big-deal-that-Titanic-make-it-to-NYC-fast-in-record-time-when-the-ship-was-already-famous-and-making-headlines-as-the-largest-and-most-luxurious-ship-of-that-time-Why-not-worry-about-arriving?top_ans=238082441

It’s sad-but it’s also horrifying.

I grew up in the 90’s so I missed out on the space race. PThanks for the explanation.

Sad. The space shuttles were originally built as a spaceships they could use several times a year, correct? Were Columbia and Discovery (is that the other name? Sorry if I’m wrong) also built poorly?

Thanks for the info guys. I’m the farthest thing from a physicist/engineer/math/science guy so no, I didn’t know the details. I do remember watching it live though. It’s one of my first memories of a major event.

Multiply that by 500 when you are online. And by another 500 because the topic is abortion.

Manson did a cover of that song and he managed to make a bad song worse!