NeuroTypical

Cool beans. I asked because I do know that families where both parents work, can make it so the kid always has a parent around, but I just have no personal experience with seeing it work myself.

Networking is basically contacting everybody you know and asking them about jobs. I've heard estimates from 60-85% of new jobs are obtained this way. It's a very well researched phenomenon out there, but we LDS know it involves basic gospel principles of service and love which most good people have in abundance. Folks want to help each other out. You: Hi Bob, it's me AngelLynn. I remember you saying once that you worked for [company x]. I'm looking for work - do you know of anything? Bob: Hi AL! I didn't know you were looking. We don't have anything here, but my cousin Bertha is in management at [company y], and she told me the other day they had a few entry level openings. Good starting pay and great benefits too - let me give you his number. You: Hi Bertha, you don't know me, but I'm friends with your cousin Bob. I'm seeking employment, and Bob told me you might be the person to talk to. [etc] --- Hope this helps. LM

Not sure if you considered me one of the harsh ones or not, but if you did, please consider that "harsh" doesn't necessarily equal "not helpful" or "untrue". God bless, and best of luck. LM

I had a small family blog that used to track the weekly number of hits. I'd make my little posts with mainly pictures and a few short obscure words describing them. I'd get maybe a dozen hits in a week. Then one post, the hit count jumped to a few hundred in a week. The only difference was that I had included the phrase "little children" in the post, instead of my usual "bunlings" or "wee kidlets". Translation: There are people out there who are searching the net for pictures of "little children". Conclusion: A segment of those people are searching for sexual titilation. I'm wondering, is there more than one aspect of immodesty? We're making big points about how it's a state of the heart and attitude and whatnot, but does not immodesty have a component that exists in the eye of the beholder? Learning what I've learned about child sex offenders, I would absolutely consider my kids immodest for running around the back yard with no clothes on. Not just immodest, but also very dangerous. Back in 1973, when I was ignorant of such people, I thought no such thing upon discovering an innocent giggly neighbor kid streaking down the street away from her mom. LM

"Swimming, Sports, Showers, and Sex" - the 4 times you ain't in your garments.

You could start by asking yourself how you know his experience at the other faith's church camp is not genuine...LM

People don't get jobs by applying for them online. People get jobs by networking. You oughta look into it.

Question: Does anyone else out there teach their kids that immodesty is acceptable with their spouses? LM

What happens to the kid while you're off at your job?

We looked for quite a while to find a dance organization with a bit more modest attire than the standard-to-daring stuff you find everywhere. We found Irish Dance. I got no problem with folks who choose differently. Why the chink in the potential friendship? LM

If I ever meet them, I'll ask to see their belly buttons. Until then, I can speculate all day long, but I just don't know.

I really don't know. My wife has been preggers as many as 5 or 6 times, but we've only got 2 kids. I suppose it's entirely possible that my little family of 4 might grow to 8 on the other side. I'm certainly not opposed to the notion, it's just that they'll have to introduce themselves to me and let me know what their names are.The general handbook talks about stillborn children, mentions temple ordinances do not get performed for them, and states this does not deny the possibility that a stillborn child may be part of the eternal family. We should trust the Lord. We may or may not choose to name the child. We may or may not hold a memorial or graveside service. There isn't any revelation on the exact timing of when the spirit enters the body. LM

I have some advice, which I'll share. But I also have something that's more than advice: If you can't rid yourself of these two issues, you can bet your marriage that she will NOT feel that way within a year or two of married life. There are so many ex-wives out there saying stuff like "I thought he'd change", "He promised me he'd work on it and fix it", etc.Here's a very important thing to think about: If you can't get over your issues on your own, what makes you think adding a stressed out wife (who is growing more and more bitter that she can't be enough for you) will help matters any? My advice: * For Pete's sake, don't rely on your girlfriend's "That's ok with me, just fix it" as something to build a marriage around. * Get over this stuff first, then get married. Otherwise, you're basically setting yourself up for a broken ended marriage. LM

Not very far off from the LDS "First Principles and Ordinances" (I won't cite so much scripture, it's there if anyone wants it):1. FAITH in the Lord Jesus Christ 2. REPENTENCE: maybe just to God, maybe to others as well. We figure restitution (where possible) is a part of the repentence process. 3. BAPTISM: By immersion for the remission of sins, a symbolic event that marks someone officially joining the church. 4. LAYING ON HANDS FOR GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST We use Acts 2:38 for the last 3. A very charitable description of a very important issue, PC. You get my vote for the "1 Cor 13-est guy of the week" award! :)LM

"18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;" (1 Peter 3:18-19) Sheol = the grave.. it's mistranslated as 'Hell' in most Bibles.. It's simply a place of waiting. Here's hoping Mel will be revisiting this thread to let us know what she thinks of 1 Peter 3...LM

Hey Erik, I believe Jehovah and Elohim are different people. I believe that Jesus is the only begotten of the Father, by which I mean Jesus did not exist before the Father begat him. I believe that not only is Jesus my brother, but He is also shares the relationship of brother to Lucifer, as both are children of God. Am I Christian?

Newspaper headllines: Ceeboo On Sabbatical - Cool Towel for Hot Head - "No Ceeboo for you" poster tells Mod squad - No See Ceeboo, millions of posters left alone. Looking forward to seeing you back, LM

Here in Colorado Springs, the LDS Porn Addiction Recovery Group is very well attended. If you've got an LDS Social Services in your area, I bet they've got one up and running also.

(Cue David Letterman "top 10" music) Top 8 Ways You know you're a Lamanite. Be warned, that #1 is a doozie! 8) If you live somewhere around 554 BC, and you seek to destroy the people of Nephi (Jacob 1:14) But I, Jacob … shall call them Lamanites that seek to destroy the people of Nephi, and those who are friendly to Nephi I shall call Nephites, or the people of Nephi, according to the reigns of the kings. 7) You rejected the gospel as personally given by Jesus Christ (4 Nephi 1:38 ) And it came to pass that they who rejected the gospel were called Lamanites, and Lemuelites, and Ishmaelites 6) You are a Nephite that decides to call yourself a Lamanite around 84 A.D. (4 Nephi 1:20) "And he kept it eighty and four years, and there was still peace in the land, save it were a small part of the people who had revolted from the church and taken upon them the name of Lamanites; therefore there began to be Lamanites again in the land." 5) You are a direct descendant of Laman (Regardless of which "side" you are on) (Alma 55:4-5)"And now it came to pass that when Moroni had said these words, he caused that a search should be made among his men, that perhaps he might find a man who was a descendant of Laman among them. And it came to pass that they found one, whose name was Laman; and he was one of the servants of the king who was murdered by Amalickiah." 4) You are a descendant of Zoram (Alma 54:23-24) "I am Ammoron, and a descendant of Zoram, whom your fathers pressed and brought out of Jerusalem. And behold now, I am a bold Lamanite;..." (Alma 43:4) "For behold, it came to pass that the Zoramites became Lamanites;" 3) You are a Nephite Defector (Moroni 9:24) "And if it so be that they perish, we know that many of our brethren have deserted over unto the Lamanites, and many more will also desert over unto them; wherefore, write somewhat a few things, if thou art spared and I shall perish and not see thee; but I trust that I may see thee soon; for I have sacred records that I would deliver up unto thee." 2) You are not a Lamanite, but become one due to your certain "dissentions" (D&C 10:48 ) "Yea, and this was their faith—that my gospel, which I gave unto them that they might preach in their days, might come unto their brethren the Lamanites, and also all that had become Lamanites because of their dissensions." And the number one way to know you're a Lamanite: 1) According to a prophecy given around 73 B.C., you are a Lamanite if you wake up in the Americas one day around 400 A.D. to discover you are still breathing: (Alma 45:14) "But whosoever remaineth, and is not destroyed in that great and dreadful day, shall be numbered among the Lamanites, and shall become like unto them, all, save it be a few who shall be called the disciples of the Lord; and them shall the Lamanites pursue even until they shall become extinct. And now, because of iniquity, this prophecy shall be fulfilled."

Before or after the brain scrambling?

Gee, a lack of morals has always done such a good job at making people happy, of course most prostitutes aren't hurting...

That's put very well, thanks! I know more than one struggling saint who seeks to believe and internalize this. And I know probably over a dozen former saints who somehow have ended up learning the exact opposite at church and in their LDS families. They figure "if the mormon god will never get over it, why should I".

I just want to state openly that although I'm generally a loudmouth with firm, entrenched convictions, I just don't know what I think on this issue. I've got little girls to raise, and I want to raise them right, so I appreciate everyone contributing to the conversation. In this case, I'm an empty vessel trying to be filled with living water. Interesting thought. So, let's take a few examples:Saul went about trying to destroy the Church. He repented and became Paul the Apostle. A boozing, gambling, promiscous man repents and realizes the complete change of heart that comes from availing oneself of the atoning sacrifice of Christ. He sets his shoulder to the wheel with all his might. He may be bishop some day. A prostitute reforms, repents, and puts her old life behind her. But she will never be anything more than a "former prostitute" - carrying that taint throughout her life. It just doesn't seem right. Virtue, chastity, and virginity. I found this little gem a while ago on another board, and I read it often. What do you folks think about it?

There are all sorts of sins that involve a permanently earthly harm that can't be fully made whole. If I cut off your arm and repent, you're still out an arm. If I destroy my marriage through drugs or abuse, full repentence and full forgiveness does not mean that marriage will survive, or ever be as good as it once was.Virtue is a personal characteristic. You an gain virute back if you lose it, the same way you can be an honest person after repenting of a life of lying.

That sounds so final - so judgemental. I wanted to highlight something in this thread. Can we put our fingers on what makes sexual sin of this nature so much worse than any other sort of sin? What makes prostitution more abhorrent than, say, robbery or arson or drugs? If it isn't, then why don't I ever see anyone claiming an arsonist has 'sold his soul'? I submit to you that the difference in our reactions might be generated from our cultural upbringing and not from gospel truth. From what I can tell, Christ's atonement covers just about everything, from this girl's dumb choice, to people who rob for drug money, to most everyone else. The call to "repent and be baptized", the inviting hand of fellowship, the prayerful genuine concern for a sinner's salvation, ought to be our reaction here - not revulsion and insults. So basically, Christ's atonement might cover a repentant prostitute, but you don't feel up to your duty to forgive such a person?We delight in the chastity of women. But I fear that sometimes we go too far in our efforts to keep our women chaste. This shunning and judging I'm not sure does us any good. Or maybe I'm off base. What do you think? LM