Dravin Posted May 14, 2009 Report Posted May 14, 2009 I'd like to. I'd also like to try apple beer.Apple Beer is some good stuff whether from a bottle or the fountain. Quote
Aesa Posted May 14, 2009 Report Posted May 14, 2009 If I were to be a Mormon (I'm not anything descriptive in terms of spirituality at this point in my life) I'd follow the Word of Wisdom very rigidly, and I know I'd love it.Essentially, in it's most complete interpretation the Word of Wisdom entails what I think most nutritionists would call an optimum diet if there ever was one. Especially:The Lord also declared in the Word of Wisdom that the following foods are good:Vegetables and fruits, which should be used "with prudence and thanksgiving" (see D&C 89:10–11).The flesh "of beasts and of the fowls of the air," which is "to be used sparingly" (see D&C 89:12–13).Grains such as wheat, rice, and oats, which are "the staff of life" (see D&C 89:14–17).LDS.org - Topic Definition - Word of WisdomPersonally I'd probably go Vegetarian / Vegan because that'd allow me to contribute to humanitarian efforts, the Church, and so forth because those diets are way cheaper.If I didn't know better I'd think God knew that people were going to become much more health conscious in this age, and wanted to make sure people were clear on what being healthy is all about.I mean, how many people got lots of exercise in the 1800's? This is just based on an assumption, but I'm assuming that there were not many people into an evening run back then (correct me if I'm wrong). That certainly makes parts such as: "...shall run and not be weary, and shall walk and not faint." Quote
Maureen Posted May 14, 2009 Report Posted May 14, 2009 ...I mean, how many people got lots of exercise in the 1800's? This is just based on an assumption, but I'm assuming that there were not many people into an evening run back then (correct me if I'm wrong). That certainly makes parts such as: "...shall run and not be weary, and shall walk and not faint."I would think that people in the 19th century got lots of exercise. Farming, gardening, laundry, cooking, walking, etc. I rather doubt they lived a sedentary life.M. Quote
gaspah Posted May 14, 2009 Report Posted May 14, 2009 Cola isn't out.I prefer water.I think Cola is in the spirit of the law, just not the letter of the law. Quote
Aesa Posted May 14, 2009 Report Posted May 14, 2009 I'm pretty sure Cola IS out. At least by the words of Hinckley. I remember in one of his interviews, the interviewer is going through a list of things forbidden by the WoW "no alcohol, no tobacco, no coffee, no tea, not even caffienated soft drinks?" to which Hinckley replies "Right. It's wonderful!" Quote
Guest missingsomething Posted May 14, 2009 Report Posted May 14, 2009 I like flavored waters... water... diet soda in the morning....chocolate milk.... Herbal teas are fine....I like this tasty blueberry one I found... infact I make it into iced tea. Oh and did I say chocolate milk? :) Quote
beefche Posted May 14, 2009 Report Posted May 14, 2009 I'm pretty sure Cola IS out.At least by the words of Hinckley.I remember in one of his interviews, the interviewer is going through a list of things forbidden by the WoW "no alcohol, no tobacco, no coffee, no tea, not even caffienated soft drinks?" to which Hinckley replies "Right. It's wonderful!"When a prophet reveals it to the members of the church in General Conference or in another church sanctioned manner and not to Mike Wallace, then I'll take it as forbidden. Quote
Wingnut Posted May 14, 2009 Report Posted May 14, 2009 My LDS in-laws occasionally treat themselves to this incredibly awful stuff called ginger beer and ginger wine. Anyone else out there drink this stuff?Ginger beer has quite a kick to it, but it's not bad...if you have a strong stomach.I think Cola is in the spirit of the law, just not the letter of the law.That's fine for you, but it cannot and should not be widely and generally interpreted or applied that way.I'm pretty sure Cola IS out.At least by the words of Hinckley.I remember in one of his interviews, the interviewer is going through a list of things forbidden by the WoW "no alcohol, no tobacco, no coffee, no tea, not even caffienated soft drinks?" to which Hinckley replies "Right. It's wonderful!"I think your quote is not quite accurate, but the scenario did happen. On a nationally televised news program. Not in General Conference, and not in a doctrinal setting, as previously stated in this thread.When a prophet reveals it to the members of the church in General Conference or in another church sanctioned manner and not to Mike Wallace, then I'll take it as forbidden.No kidding -- how many times do we have to say that? Quote
Faded Posted May 14, 2009 Report Posted May 14, 2009 I'm pretty sure Cola IS out.At least by the words of Hinckley.I remember in one of his interviews, the interviewer is going through a list of things forbidden by the WoW "no alcohol, no tobacco, no coffee, no tea, not even caffienated soft drinks?" to which Hinckley replies "Right. It's wonderful!"I do think you need to do more than answer a yes or no question on a television interview to make an official change in Church policy. Caffeinated soda has been one of those matters that members have been pestering the General Authorities to "define as against the Word of Wisdom" for decades. The response has been the same: "We have enough members who struggle with what we have right now, we're not adding to the Word of Wisdom at this time." If you abstain from caffeinated soda, I think the Lord will bless you for it. It's certainly not particularly healthy. But just remember that it's not part of the letter of the law. As such, don't freak out if some Church member has a Coke at a Ward function. Personally I'd probably go Vegetarian / Vegan because that'd allow me to contribute to humanitarian efforts, the Church, and so forth because those diets are way cheaper. God said sparingly, not "none," so I'd be careful on this one. In another section of the Doctrine and Covenants that states, "He that forbiddeth that man should eat meat is not of God."Here's an important tidbit that I pick up in a Chemistry class. The teach was a biochem specialist. She pointed out that there are 12 essential proteins that the human body needs to survive. Only 2 of those 12 proteins can be found in plants. The rest come from eating meat. I would say keeping it at "eating meat sparingly" is the healthier option. You don't need to gorge yourself on meat constantly, but you do need some meat sometimes. Quote
Dravin Posted May 14, 2009 Report Posted May 14, 2009 Here's an important tidbit that I pick up in a Chemistry class. The teach was a biochem specialist. She pointed out that there are 12 essential proteins that the human body needs to survive. Only 2 of those 12 proteins can be found in plants. The rest come from eating meat. I would say keeping it at "eating meat sparingly" is the healthier option. You don't need to gorge yourself on meat constantly, but you do need some meat sometimes.And you certainly don't need to go vegan. Eggs, milk (and thus cheese and yogurt) are good sources of protein and don't require you to be killing animals left and right to get you your daily 72oz steak. Quote
Aesa Posted May 14, 2009 Report Posted May 14, 2009 I would say keeping it at "eating meat sparingly" is the healthier option.Oh, well I agree. Sorry I kind of exaggerated what my ideal diet would be without realising. Quote
the Ogre Posted May 15, 2009 Report Posted May 15, 2009 The following quote is from my FaceBook page. I'd like to point out that I actually haven't had anything with caffeine in it for a while (oooo . . . the headaches are not worth going back).1. Classic Coke2. Cherry Coke3. Coke Zero4. Cherry Coke Zero5. Guava Juice6. Chocolate Syrup7. Black Cherry Shasta8. Grape Juice9. Tomato Juice10. ButtermilkBack in the day, I drank a lot of JD, JQ, and JW, so I have no opinion on the caffeine debate. Quote
Misshalfway Posted May 15, 2009 Report Posted May 15, 2009 We drink a lot of milk at my house. So much so that I am thinking of investing in our own dairy cow. Quote
the Ogre Posted May 15, 2009 Report Posted May 15, 2009 We drink a lot of milk at my house. So much so that I am thinking of investing in our own dairy cow.In the same way I'm thinking of buying half a sheep, but then pureed lamb-chops are just gross. I wonder if that would be improved on with mint-jam.Oooo . . . how about mint-chocolate chip ice-cream lamb-chop floats??? Mmmm yummmmy. Quote
beefche Posted May 15, 2009 Report Posted May 15, 2009 We drink a lot of milk at my house. So much so that I am thinking of investing in our own dairy cow.AAAAAAA! Quote
Misshalfway Posted May 15, 2009 Report Posted May 15, 2009 AAAAAAA! Why didn't I think of you??? Are you available? I have a nice fenced in patio with a bird feeder nearby? Quote
marshac Posted May 21, 2009 Report Posted May 21, 2009 Alrighty, as promised, here are the results of the coffee-substitute taste test... sorry it took so long, but the box JUST came today. So much for 2 day shipping!So I bought the two highest rated products I could find on Amazon.com- Pero and CafixThe smell testSmelled very much like coffeeDidn't smell much like coffee, although it had a familiar smell I couldn't placeWhat the looked like prior to adding waterCalfix looked exactly like coffee crystals while Pero looked like cinnamonPost-WaterVery foamyHow they tastedCalfix - "Very watery"Pero - "Tastes like bad beef broth"My opinion- They both taste a lot like coffee surprisingly enough. Calfix needs more crystals than the directions call for. Pero has a more robust flavor, although there is a slight j'ne sais quoi aftertaste... almost like I can still perceive the powder in solution.Oh the whole both were good contenders, although my vote is for Calfix. Quote
the Ogre Posted May 21, 2009 Report Posted May 21, 2009 Both are nasty. Why? They taste like coffee. BTW: I love your pictures. They are awesome. Quote
Maureen Posted May 21, 2009 Report Posted May 21, 2009 BTW: I love your pictures. They are awesome.I agree! :) Quote
havejoy Posted May 21, 2009 Report Posted May 21, 2009 I drink caffeine free diet coke once in a while but my favorite drink is water. Sometimes I flavor the water with vitamin powder. Quote
uwhusky Posted May 22, 2009 Report Posted May 22, 2009 I drink Green Tea, Diet Coke and Water. Green Tea is probably the closest I'm getting to being in violation but I don't view Diet Coke as close to wrong and feel no guilt when I drink it (I don't feel guilt about the green tea either, though). I also drink a protein shake with milk. A Stake President friend of mine drinks Diet Coke by the gallon (ok, a little sarcastic) and it even shows up at ward parties so I don't view it as wrong at all. Quote
Dravin Posted May 22, 2009 Report Posted May 22, 2009 Oh update (I know, like anyone cares). I've fallen victim to Diet Caffeine Free Pepsi with cherry flavoring from the local Mavericks, they're awesome crushed ice doesn't hurt. So much for minimizing soda intake. *sigh* At least the only calories are in the syrup. Quote
Hemidakota Posted May 22, 2009 Report Posted May 22, 2009 The biggest addition in America is sugar. Quote
ChristopherMills Posted May 22, 2009 Report Posted May 22, 2009 Carbonated drinks are absolutely ok. However, I do not think it would be healthy to only drink sodas or to overdo it. I have never heard that colas are against the Word of Wisdom. Some people mistakenly think that caffienated beverages are against it but as I understand, we are only advised to avoid them (for addictive purposes) but it is not forbidden. I know a lot of LDS who drink caffeine and a lot who avoid it. Personally, I do not drink caffeinated sodas but I do love a caffeine free cola every now and then. Living in Utah is quite an advantage because almost everything is available in caffeine free (including Mountain Dew and Dr. Pepper). Seriously, caffeine has no flavor so you don't even miss it unless you are addicted. The only caffeine I ever consume is whatever small amount is in a Snickers bar or the occasional asprin. :) Herbal Tea is ok to drink. Black Tea is not and I believe that Green Tea is also not ok because it is from the same plant. Quote
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