Just_A_Guy Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Video here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytor2112 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Heh,heh. What a big wind bag.....Boxer, not the general. I imagine that even President Obama finds some of his colleagues in the Democratic Party to be....embarrassing. She irritates me more than Pelosi......which is saying something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 (edited) Oh my heck...of all the arrogant, obnoxious remarks. To tell a Brigadier General..don't call me ma'am.. I'm just appalled. I'm very embarassed for the General. She doesn't even deserve the ma'am. Edited June 18, 2009 by pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenRaines Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I saw that and thought that here is a man who has spent his life saying Sir and Ma'am. Probably from the time he was a boy. I don't care if it was Boxer or any Republican woman senator. That is just wrong. It is because of men like this General that our politicians live the life they do. I hope that there is an uproar over this and she has to publicly apologize to this General. Ben Raines Semper Fi, Ma'am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Amen Ben. I demand a public apology from her to the General. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanette Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Has Boxer always been so full of herself or is this a recent development? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moksha Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I think she either failed to realize that military people use the terms Sir and Ma'am frequently. On they other hand, perhaps she noticed that he was addressing her male colleagues as Senator. In any case, I think the protocol for Congressional hearings is to use the terms Senator or Congressperson. When addressing the President, you would say Mr. President. When addressing Palerider, the correct protocol would be to say, "Hey you". :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 The thing that bugged me was the "I've worked hard to get the title" comment. Like the general hasn't worked hard to get his title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_A_Guy Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 True--but you can become a general without having compromised your core principles. Not sure you can say the same about a senator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemidakota Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Heh,heh. What a big wind bag.....Boxer, not the general. I imagine that even President Obama finds some of his colleagues in the Democratic Party to be....embarrassing. She irritates me more than Pelosi......which is saying something.She is an embarrassment for Californians... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanette Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 She is an embarrassment for Californians...I completely agree. She and Feinstein have me hating to admit I live here (I sure didn't vote for either of them!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphaba Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I always like to look at these situations in perspective, and so I listened to the first forty-minutes or so to see how he addressed the male senators, thinking perhaps he had been calling them senator all along. Nope. Senator Boxer was the first speaker, and once she was done with her opening, which contained her request, the general did go on to call Senator Vitter (male) "senator," but then also referred to him as "sir." I suspect he called Vitter senator the first few times because of Boxer's chastisement. In Senator Boxer's defense, which is barely nil, I do have an example from academia that tends to make us professional women cringe. I have seen female professors with doctorates called Ms. Petersen, while the men are called Dr. Petersen. But to be honest, this was ten years ago, and I've not seen it as an issue since. I think this was a bit of preening on Boxer's part, and totally uncalled for. I also have to say the general responded very graciously. Elphaba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palerider Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Can you say......"term limits"......:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 No kidding...I moved out of California 14 years ago, and I swear I don't remember a time when I didn't hear Boxer's and Feinstein's names in California politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 I can't believe this has had me riled up all day today. I'm still just fuming over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Churchmouse Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 I've seen Boxer. I'm not sure "ma'am" applies:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphaba Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 I've seen Boxer. I'm not sure "ma'am" applies:)I've seen Cheney. I don't think the word "human" applies."Cheap shots.Elphaba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Cheap shots are better than expensive ones when on a tight budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytor2112 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I've seen Cheney. I don't think the word "human" applies."Cheap shots.ElphabaWell....your comment is definitely a cheap shot......you didn't end with :):):) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Cheap shots are better than expensive ones when on a tight budget. I got to thinking about this comment I made. I have read far too many posts from Moksha as I'm starting to sound like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palerider Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I've seen Cheney. I don't think the word "human" applies."Cheap shots.Elphaba I could use a real good Ted Kennedy joke here......but I won't due to his current health status.....Biden, wow...so much to say here......:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JcDean78 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I love how Biden is about the dumbest guy in modern political history with more mistakes in 1 interview than most politicians have in a lifetime but since he is a Liberal he gets a pass. Obama even has more slip ups than most Republicans yet he also gets a pass. Palin on the other hand being in the GOP does nothing and gets labeled an idiot... but then again all Conservatives get either the idiot label or evil mastermind label. I can always tell who is the most Conservative in the GOP without even hearing them speak, all I got to do is see who the media attacks the worst and chances are thats the best guy. Same works in reverse for who is the weakest link they praise (McCain) that is until he actually goes up against their guy. On the topic I felt her request was ok, she just went about it the wrong way. Working so 'hard' to become a Senator, she should have learned some tact. I think this whole thing is being way overblown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palerider Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I love how Biden is about the dumbest guy in modern political history with more mistakes in 1 interview than most politicians have in a lifetime but since he is a Liberal he gets a pass. Obama even has more slip ups than most Republicans yet he also gets a pass. Palin on the other hand being in the GOP does nothing and gets labeled an idiot... but then again all Conservatives get either the idiot label or evil mastermind label. I can always tell who is the most Conservative in the GOP without even hearing them speak, all I got to do is see who the media attacks the worst and chances are thats the best guy. Same works in reverse for who is the weakest link they praise (McCain) that is until he actually goes up against their guy.On the topic I felt her request was ok, she just went about it the wrong way. Working so 'hard' to become a Senator, she should have learned some tact. I think this whole thing is being way overblown. Each side has their share of Lunkheads....thats why we need term limits.....:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanette Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Each side has their share of Lunkheads....thats why we need term limits.....:)Works for me. We have too many entrenched politicians who have convinced themselves they are our rulers by right, rather than our representatives and employees, on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Has it dawned on anyone that Sen. Boxer did this on purpose? I'm convinced it was a publicity stunt...much as musicians and actors/tresses get into mock-trouble to keep themselves in the entertainment gossip media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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