Curiousity question about Larry King.

[CommanderSouth]

His last wife was a latter day saint, which makes me wonder. Assuming he was not (which is correct as far as I can tell), why would a LDS woman marry a non member, when they believe their own exaltation is on the line. Of course, this may have something to do with why they divorced, but I don't want to sling mud, I just find this curious.

Thoughts?

[Dravin]

You have to ask her as she's what we like to term "an individual." There are multiple possibilities but nobody here is likely to know what the thoughts behind her decision actual were.

[dizzysmiles]

I dated an atheist when I was in highschool. At that point I never thought a RM would want me (not sure why. I never did anything wrong and was very strong. So Low self esteem I guess) and I was head over hills. I fooled myself into thinking "I'd rather be happy for this life than miserable for eternity alone." We ended up breaking it off he ended up joining the church and we went our seperate ways. (This is rare. most people don't just join and I never tried to chane him. I did give him a BOM and he did the changing himself after we broke it off) I met a RM and married him for eternity. I haven't looked back. But so many factors can contribute to this. A. He is rich (cause he sure ain't pretty).. and some women might like that?? Dunno. B. Low Self Esteem. C. THinking they can change him

[Wingnut]

For some people, they pick and choose which commandments to follow. Sometimes it's a matter of convenience, sometimes they just don't care enough to follow them.

[applepansy]

for Love? You would have to ask the woman or man. Its not just women who marry nonmembers.

[hordak]

Why would her exaltation be at stake? I mean the "general consensus" is that singles who don't find their eternal companions but follow the commandments will be given a shot on the other side so why would the married, who don't find an eternal companion but follow the commandments be out of luck?

We do temple work for the dead. Who is to say that my non lds grandparents, who had their work done after death, will get the chance to accept but Larry King will not?

I don't think it is in our pay grade

Is there some scripture that says if your a member then your sealing can only be done on this side? If marrying a non member(not getting sealed) was an automatic failure i would think it would be a commandment.

Has anyone sealed a part member family/ couple?

Edited April 30, 2010 by hordak

[Bini]

You'd have to ask her. We can only speculate. And my speculation is, she fancied him, they made a connection and got hitched. Like most of us do. And many times, with our rose-coloured glasses on.

[Guest mysticmorini]

For some people, they pick and choose which commandments to follow. Sometimes it's a matter of convenience, sometimes they just don't care enough to follow them.

are you saying its a commandment to marry within the church? I seem to remember reading an ensign article that suggested that women should marry outside the church if they could not find a worthy member.

[john doe]

are you saying its a commandment to marry within the church? I seem to remember reading an ensign article that suggested that women should marry outside the church if they could not find a worthy member.

Do you have a link to that article?

[Carl62]

You'd have to ask her. We can only speculate. And my speculation is, she fancied him, they made a connection and got hitched. Like most of us do. And many times, with our rose-coloured glasses on.

If you look at her then look at him, I think the only thing she fancied and made a connection with was his bank account. Sorry to be so direct about it but I'm just calling it like I see it.

[Bini]

That's likely to be true, Carl.

But seriously.. Larry King of all the famous and wealthy men out there.. I wouldn't have picked him myself. And I think I've seen Larry King's wife, she's very pretty, I'm sure she could have had any man she wanted. But that goes back to the money I guess. Maybe the bank account wasn't big enough?

Again, speculation :]

[Moksha]

For some women, wealth plus fame (especially Rock N' Roll Fame) can overcome all other considerations. Good thing Larry King was too old to have been one of the Beatles.

[CommanderSouth]

I have heard both ways on marriage basically being a commandment. I have heard if we have the chance and don't take it then we don't get another shot (I remember hearing a story from President Kimball talking about a young couple having a civil marriage rather than a temple marriage and they died in a car crash, and that they were done, no second chances). I have also heard that if we follow the commandments and marriage doesn't present itself then we will have no blessing withheld from us.

All that being said, I prefer to leave it in the hands of God, maybe President Kimball was right, or maybe he wasn't "a prophet being a prophet" at that time. Either way, I would think it is best to err on the side of temple marriage if at all possible.

[Wingnut]

are you saying its a commandment to marry within the church? I seem to remember reading an ensign article that suggested that women should marry outside the church if they could not find a worthy member.

Are you saying that it's not a commandment for us to do everything within our power to become worthy of exaltation?

I have heard both ways on marriage basically being a commandment. I have heard if we have the chance and don't take it then we don't get another shot (I remember hearing a story from President Kimball talking about a young couple having a civil marriage rather than a temple marriage and they died in a car crash, and that they were done, no second chances). I have also heard that if we follow the commandments and marriage doesn't present itself then we will have no blessing withheld from us.

All that being said, I prefer to leave it in the hands of God, maybe President Kimball was right, or maybe he wasn't "a prophet being a prophet" at that time. Either way, I would think it is best to err on the side of temple marriage if at all possible.

Here is the story (pulled from a lesson from the YW manual that I taught from two (or three?) weeks ago:

President Spencer W. Kimball told the following true story:

“A few years ago a young couple who lived in northern Utah came to Salt Lake City for their marriage. They did not want to bother with a temple marriage, or perhaps they did not feel worthy. At any rate, they had a civil marriage. After the marriage they got into their automobile and drove north to their home for a wedding reception. On their way home they had an accident, and when the wreckage was cleared, there was a dead man and a dead young woman. They had been married only an hour or two. Their marriage was ended. They thought they loved each other. They wanted to live together forever, but they did not live the commandments that would make that possible. So death came in and closed that career. They may have been good young people; I don’t know. But they will be angels in heaven if they are. They will not be gods and goddesses and priests and priestesses because they did not fulfill the commandments and do the things that were required at their hands.

“Sometimes we have people who say, ‘Oh, someday I will go to the temple. But I am not quite ready yet. And if I die, somebody can do the work for me in the temple.’ And that should be made very clear to all of us. The temples are for the living and for the dead only when the work could not have been done. Do you think that the Lord will be mocked and give to this young couple who ignored him, give them the blessings? The Lord said, ‘For all contracts that are not made unto this end have an end when men are dead.’ (D&C 132:7)” (in Conference Report, Japan Area Conference 1975, pp. 61–62).

[Guest mysticmorini]

Are you saying that it's not a commandment for us to do everything within our power to become worthy of exaltation?

I'm not sure that it is a commandment for us to become worthy of exaltation, do you have a reference that says that?

[Blackmarch]

His last wife was a latter day saint, which makes me wonder. Assuming he was not (which is correct as far as I can tell), why would a LDS woman marry a non member, when they believe their own exaltation is on the line. Of course, this may have something to do with why they divorced, but I don't want to sling mud, I just find this curious.

Thoughts?

that's a good question, not one I can really answer...

My guess would be that if someone develops deep feelings for another, that it may be to the extent that they are willing to put such on the line... and/or they may also hope to eventually bring the other party into the blessings of the gospel at a future date.

[Blackmarch]

I'm not sure that it is a commandment for us to become worthy of exaltation, do you have a reference that says that?

I don't know but "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your father in heaven is perfect.." would come pretty close to that

[hordak]

I don't know but "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your father in heaven is perfect.." would come pretty close to that

I don't know if i would quote Matt 5 , the sermon on the mound ,on a thread about marriage.

This is also the talk were Jesus says

31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:

32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

[pam]

Just an FYI. Larry and Shawn have called off their divorce and have decided to reconcile.

[john doe]

Just an FYI. Larry and Shawn have called off their divorce and have decided to reconcile.

Now that's just sick. Sometimes I think these people deserve each other.

[miztrniceguy]

Has anyone sealed a part member family/ couple?

The day of my endowment there was a widow in my ward who was sealed to her deceased spouse who had not been a member while alive.

[Guest mormonmusic]

His last wife was a latter day saint, which makes me wonder. Assuming he was not (which is correct as far as I can tell), why would a LDS woman marry a non member, when they believe their own exaltation is on the line. Of course, this may have something to do with why they divorced, but I don't want to sling mud, I just find this curious.

Thoughts?

She may have already been married in the temple for eternity and her husband died. So, Larry is just a well-incomed partner for the rest of her earthly life.

Also, to achieve life with God, all you need is baptism and enduring to the end. There's not a commandment you have to marry a member or be married in the temple to achieve this. Now for eternal progression, you need temple marriage, definitely. Perhaps this is her thinking -- life with God is good enough.

She may also think "I'm young and larry's old, he will probably pass on to the next world before I do, at which time I can marry in the temple". She's taking a chance though that something might happen and he out-survives her. So this line or reasoning could backfire on her.

I'm only speculating though. It wouldn't surprise me if his money had something to do with it. Many women have a high need for financial support, and that's why they marry, says Willard Harley Junior at Marriage Builders ® - Successful Marriage Advice. Or his incredible good looks....

Edited May 14, 2010 by mormonmusic

[Hemidakota]

His last wife was a latter day saint, which makes me wonder. Assuming he was not (which is correct as far as I can tell), why would a LDS woman marry a non member, when they believe their own exaltation is on the line. Of course, this may have something to do with why they divorced, but I don't want to sling mud, I just find this curious.

Thoughts?

Larry who?

[Suzie]

are you saying its a commandment to marry within the church? I seem to remember reading an ensign article that suggested that women should marry outside the church if they could not find a worthy member.

Really? I never read anything like that before. Link?