Guest LiterateParakeet Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Yes, that sums up what I loved most about it too--because it not only applies to this situation, but it made me look inside and ask myself if I have done that in other situations, and also a reminder to be careful not to do that in the future.I also liked that even though he strongly disagreed, he was very kind about it. Of course, he knows what it is like to receive backlash over something you posted on your blog! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I know this is a little late, but I thought it was thought-provoking:My Response to Well Behaved Mormon Woman (her post about Frozen) Josh WeedI had nooo idea about the controversy until you linked this. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleWyvern Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I had nooo idea about the controversy until you linked this. Wow.Oh, that controversy is old now. The real controversy now is that if you play Frozen backwards, it subliminally tells kids to worship Al Gore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) Sorry, I'm late to the party. And just back from Frozen.I'm with Josh Weed, great art lends itself to numerous interpretations.I'm with Anatess and her nieces, in that I had already halfway memorized two different parodies to the snowman (Dost thou want to see the moon rise, and Do ya wanna get a beer, man).I'm with Vort and the immodest brigade - no really, they sexed her the heck up just for the sake of sexing her up. But something to understand - "Let it go" turned out to not be the right answer, right? But apart from all of them, I'm also with me.Frozen is about how childhood trauma can lead to bad coping mechanisms, which can reach across the years to screw with our relationships and cause us pain. And how learning to deal appropriately with our inner demons and adverse natures, lets things get better.As far as we know, mom and dad could have changed his mind a week later after he had a chance to settle down and realize that shutting his daughter up wasn't the answer. But mom and dad died. And so the sisters grew up without the loving nurturing wise loving stewards that we're supposed to have on earth. And it happens like that in real life. And it stinks in real life too. Edited March 9, 2014 by Loudmouth_Mormon mordorbund 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windseeker Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 More Frozen fun. These parents have got it down.The kid in the back Good Looking Parents Sing Disney's Frozen (Love Is an Open Door) - YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 more frozen fun. These parents have got it down.lol!!! Awesomest video ever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 The more I think about it, the more Frozen rocks.Let it go: A song about dumping horrible painful coping mechanisms that aren't working. "conceal, don't feel, don't let them know" - the reason behind it is to keep from causing pain to others, but what a horrible way to live life.Unfortunately, the thing which needs to be coped with is still present. So although letting go of the bad coping mechanism feels great, there's still a need for a better coping mechanism. Because whereas we all have occasional bouts of emotional excess, Elsa's bouts place others in mortal danger. So she needs a way to deal with that. Hence, the rest of the movie.At the end of the movie, she's got a new coping mechanism - let loved ones in, feel and express love for them. Not exactly sure what this means for her next bout of emotional excess. The hope, is that the next time she gets all worked up, the negative will be tempered with all the positive in her life, and she won't end up sending ice daggers through her loved ones by mistake. But at least there's hope. The loved ones all know the risk and remain loved ones. The townspeople know the risk and are still willing to have her as queen.Hmmm - a person learning to cope with an extreme destructive reaction to life's stresses, without medication or therapy or parents. A sister loving her despite the fact that she literally risks injury to do so. Yeah, I may not be very close to such a situation, but I know lots of people have similar struggles. (Actually, I think Olaf may count as therapy.) mordorbund 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 LM, that sums up exactly how I felt as I watched the film. I saw it four days after I started taking Zoloft for the second time, having hit a complete rock bottom earlier in the week. The song was powerful to me for these very reasons. I think I cried in the movie theater as I watched it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LiterateParakeet Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I really loved your post LM. I feel the same way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applepansy Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I think I need to watch the movie again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Is it out on DVD yet??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 My pre-order copy is in the mail!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Folk Prophet Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 So...I finally saw Frozen...so finally read through this thread (didn't want to taint my pov before seeing it.) So what did I think? Meh. I tend to agree with Vort's OP. But mostly I was struck with the fact that it just wasn't that good. I thought for sure, with all the hype, that even if the subtext was, indeed, somehow evil that it would be wrapped in a perfect little package and be amazingly entertaining. But it was not. It was not that well written and not that well executed. Sure. There were moments. Let it Go is very well done, etc. But if you compare it, overall-execution-wise, to something like Toy Story 3 -- it SO pales in comparison. Just too many holes. They didn't seem to take enough time to really develop any meaningful character motivation, and so the overall plot came across as very forced...and, consequently, cynical. The snowman was very forced. Concerning the pro-gay subtext issue....yeah...I can see how someone could take it that way. You'd have to be looking for it though. And, realistically, you could apply any issue that was unacceptable to society at large in the same way. I really think the "evil" in the show comes down to the cynicism. The whole, love is the answer, resolution was cheap, easy, and did not resonate. I mean, really? She just realizes this and -- boom -- all evil reversed? Cheap. I'd say that was the harmful message, if there was one. Just love, and all problems go away. Right. That's how life works. But that's pretty typical Disney cartoon material. So...whatever. I don't have a problem with that, only with the poor way it was executed overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Ok - I had to resurrect this thread to add this final word on the movie:   How Frozen Should Have EndedYou are now free to move on with your lives. Wingnut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bini Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I like Aaron Paul's version of "So You Wanna Build A Snowman?". Breaking Bad Frozen is hilarious. NeuroTypical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bini Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 LM, I'm guessing you watched it but if not - you need to! I'd post a link but there's one gruff word tossed in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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