Intimate Photos with spouse

[Latter-Day Marriage]

14 hours ago, Windseeker said:

Well frankly there ought to be.

He didn't say there was no difference.  My wife has a smile that makes my heart do a back-flip, and that happens with photos of her smiling like that or with her smiling at me like that live.  I doubt any of us here would tell the OP to not take any photos with him.  If normal photos serve a purpose helpful to the relationship, intimate photos can too.

Something we did a couple of times on my mission was to record a tape and mail that rather than send a letter.  It was amazing to her her voice, hear her sing a hymn etc.  I sent her a tape back once, I carried the recorder around on P-Day and had my comp and other missionaries in my district say hi to her.  It was great.

[Windseeker]

1 hour ago, Latter-Day Marriage said:

He didn't say there was no difference.  My wife has a smile that makes my heart do a back-flip, and that happens with photos of her smiling like that or with her smiling at me like that live.  I doubt any of us here would tell the OP to not take any photos with him.  If normal photos serve a purpose helpful to the relationship, intimate photos can too.

Something we did a couple of times on my mission was to record a tape and mail that rather than send a letter.  It was amazing to her her voice, hear her sing a hymn etc.  I sent her a tape back once, I carried the recorder around on P-Day and had my comp and other missionaries in my district say hi to her.  It was great.

He said "I personally see very little difference between seeing my spouse in person and in a picture."

And this is the danger of our culture of pornography (when I say pornography I mean pornography and the act that follows). We are being conditioned to respond to images everywhere we look. Social media, Technology, Advertisement, and Entertainment are replacing real human interaction with a counterfeit to the point that countries like Japan are so saturated with pornography that they are experiencing an economic crisis as more and more men prefer to be with themselves then be with a women. There is a growing movement of non-religious individuals that are personally discovering the dangers of pornography and it's effect on their brain. (see Internet Porn Addiction Interview with former Google employee *warning respectful adult discussion*) 

The chemicals that are released when being intimate (with ourselves or another) are very powerful and actually change the brain. Also it's been discovered that there are different chemicals released when we are intimate with another person then when we engage in pornography. Not only is there a spiritual difference there is actually a real physical difference as well. Could there be divine purpose in that?

So under this context and the fact that I'm also in the same boat as the OP I don't get the point of intimate pictures. What purpose would they serve? I personally want to remain in what I consider a natural state and only respond to my wife's touch, not to an image or a voice or a text. 

Of course my  heart leaps when I see my wife's image or hear her voice, smell her perfume or when we text. I want to miss her and long for her but not to lust her and so again, I don't see the purpose of intimate photo's. I'll concede that if you are going to be intimate "long distance" it's preferable to do so with your wife rather then a stranger, obviously a no brainer (and frustrates me to no end that I even have to say it). But every time you do so you are conditioning your brain with a  counterfeit and it's proven to have negative consequences.

So yes, I think if we see little difference in our physical and emotional reactions when seeing an image of our spouse naked verses seeing them in person we ought to consider how we are conditioned and perhaps ask ourselves why we are trying to arouse and torment ourselves when our spouse is no where nearby and to what end.

So for me I'm tending my relationship as I see fit in a manner that I ensure I remain programmed to my wife's physical presence and not a counterfeit. 

I simply offer my opinion and experience and I do not Judge the OP or anyone else and wish everyone the best as they tend to their own marriages.

Edited September 1, 2016 by Windseeker

[pam]

Personally I think there is a time and a place for such things.  And the place isn't over a cell phone or other type of device. Or through emails etc.

That's just my opinion.

[Guest MormonGator]

10 hours ago, SilentOne said:

With a capital T and that rhymes with P and that stands for Photo.

Best. Comment. Ever. 

[zil]

39 minutes ago, Windseeker said:

I want to miss her and long for her .... So for me I'm tending my relationship as I see fit in a manner that I ensure I remain programmed to my wife's physical presence and not a counterfeit. 

Personally, I think this is (one of) the biggest reason(s) why sexual sins which "only involve oneself" are considered sin - they reduce one's need, desire, and motivation for a righteous relationship, and, apparently, to reduce those is a sin.

(Personally, I think pondering "counterfeit" and "good enough" can lead one to greater understanding of and appreciation for "real" and "best".)

[NightSG]

On 8/30/2016 at 11:47 PM, Latter-Day Marriage said:

I can't see any reason why it would be immoral to see a photo or video of something you are allowed to see in person, but the risk of exposure is something you have to take into account.   I've taken some very sexy pictures of my wife but I've never sent them electronically, not by phone, email or anything.  Once you send something a copy of it is kept on various servers out there and who knows what can happen.  I keep the R and X rated pictures encrypted and stored safe from all eyes but mine.

This.  There's good enough encryption available that anyone wanting to see me naked would have a much easier time getting a spy camera into my shower than finding the "personal photos" archive from before my divorce on whichever set of backups it might still be on and decrypting the files.  Considering I'm in better shape now than I was then, and have a much nicer tan, and there still doesn't seem to be much demand to see me naked, I just don't expect it to be a serious problem.

[NeedleinA]

2 hours ago, NightSG said:

better shape now...nicer tan...demand to see me naked, I just don't expect it to be a serious problem.

No one expects it until it is too late.

you are welcome

[Guest MormonGator]

4 hours ago, NeedleinA said:

No one expects it until it is too late.

you are welcome

And now you are posting pictures of me with some other dudes face!!!!!

[Latter-Day Marriage]

8 hours ago, Windseeker said:

He said "I personally see very little difference between seeing my spouse in person and in a picture."

And this is the danger of our culture of pornography (when I say pornography I mean pornography and the act that follows). We are being conditioned to respond to images everywhere we look. Social media, Technology, Advertisement, and Entertainment are replacing real human interaction with a counterfeit to the point that countries like Japan are so saturated with pornography that they are experiencing an economic crisis as more and more men prefer to be with themselves then be with a women. There is a growing movement of non-religious individuals that are personally discovering the dangers of pornography and it's effect on their brain. (see Internet Porn Addiction Interview with former Google employee *warning respectful adult discussion*) 

The chemicals that are released when being intimate (with ourselves or another) are very powerful and actually change the brain. Also it's been discovered that there are different chemicals released when we are intimate with another person then when we engage in pornography. Not only is there a spiritual difference there is actually a real physical difference as well. Could there be divine purpose in that?

So under this context and the fact that I'm also in the same boat as the OP I don't get the point of intimate pictures. What purpose would they serve? I personally want to remain in what I consider a natural state and only respond to my wife's touch, not to an image or a voice or a text. 

Of course my  heart leaps when I see my wife's image or hear her voice, smell her perfume or when we text. I want to miss her and long for her but not to lust her and so again, I don't see the purpose of intimate photo's. I'll concede that if you are going to be intimate "long distance" it's preferable to do so with your wife rather then a stranger, obviously a no brainer (and frustrates me to no end that I even have to say it). But every time you do so you are conditioning your brain with a  counterfeit and it's proven to have negative consequences.

So yes, I think if we see little difference in our physical and emotional reactions when seeing an image of our spouse naked verses seeing them in person we ought to consider how we are conditioned and perhaps ask ourselves why we are trying to arouse and torment ourselves when our spouse is no where nearby and to what end.

So for me I'm tending my relationship as I see fit in a manner that I ensure I remain programmed to my wife's physical presence and not a counterfeit. 

I simply offer my opinion and experience and I do not Judge the OP or anyone else and wish everyone the best as they tend to their own marriages.

I'd never say that seeing a photo of my wife was close to interacting with her, but see a photo of her sparks pretty much the same feeling as the sight of her live.  Seeing photos of her helps keep the emotional connection fresh, and likewise an intimate photo helps keep my intimate emotions for her fresh when she isn't around for a while.  Some people they may react differently and use it as a jumping off point for something more self centered and improper, but it doesn't have to be like that. 

[Latter-Day Marriage]

9 hours ago, pam said:

Personally I think there is a time and a place for such things.  And the place isn't over a cell phone or other type of device. Or through emails etc.

That's just my opinion.

If you REALLY have to send something, low tech is probably the way to go.  Snail mail a memory card or prints.

Edited September 2, 2016 by Latter-Day Marriage

[dz2003]

There has been a lot of posts so I will clear some stuff on it, both of us are on board, not one nor the other is pushing it, and as far as the job causing us not to be together that is not the issue.  And I am definite not fish for a "yes go for it" from people the person most important my wife has not said no and was open to the idea.  It is not something that is brought up every day sometimes months have passed and the subject has not been discussed so were not addicted to wanting an answer yes.