Revelation "activities" for youth

[carlimac]

So, first of all I haven't been released from my calling as YW 2nd counselor and doubt I will despite telling my husband who is in the bishopric, that I'm struggling.

So in the mean time I just got back from girls camp on Sat. I had an activity for mutual this week  pretty much all done and ready. Thought I'd have all week to prepare for teaching the first July lesson on ordinances and covenants on Sun. Then the stake president told us we need to make the next SIX weeknight mutual activities (including the one this week) about personal revelation. This is after he spent 45 min talking to all the girls in the stake at camp about how to receive personal revelation. 

So can anyone think of ways to break this topic down into six  consecutive lessons about it? Also I need ideas for some fun activities for learning about it because I think mutual should be a time to socialize and have fun. Not just a repeat of Sunday. Personally I feel it's a a great thing to learn about, but a bit "heavy" and redundant right now especially when they were just given the 5 goals from the prophet to focus on.  But I have to comply because the stake president's only child is in our ward, in my Beehives group. He is extremely finicky about small details and he's not afraid to let you know when you've messed up. Plus, I'm a bit afraid of not supporting my leaders. Lots of lightning storms in our area right now. I would surely get struck. 

 

[anatess2]

16 minutes ago, carlimac said:

So, first of all I haven't been released from my calling as YW 2nd counselor and doubt I will despite telling my husband who is in the bishopric, that I'm struggling.

So in the mean time I just got back from girls camp on Sat. I had an activity for mutual this week  pretty much all done and ready. Thought I'd have all week to prepare for teaching the first July lesson on ordinances and covenants on Sun. Then the stake president told us we need to make the next SIX weeknight mutual activities (including the one this week) about personal revelation. This is after he spent 45 min talking to all the girls in the stake at camp about how to receive personal revelation. 

So can anyone think of ways to break this topic down into six  consecutive lessons about it? Also I need ideas for some fun activities for learning about it because I think mutual should be a time to socialize and have fun. Not just a repeat of Sunday. Personally I feel it's a a great thing to learn about, but a bit "heavy" and redundant right now especially when they were just given the 5 goals from the prophet to focus on.  But I have to comply because the stake president's only child is in our ward, in my Beehives group. He is extremely finicky about small details and he's not afraid to let you know when you've messed up. Plus, I'm a bit afraid of not supporting my leaders. Lots of lightning storms in our area right now. I would surely get struck. 

 

I suggest you do the activity you already planned then do the next 6 mutuals what your stake president suggested.

I can't help you with mutual activity planning because... I've never been on Young Women - converted as an adult and never had a YW calling and don't have daughters.

[anatess2]

Oh!  I was thinking... Johnny Lingo is related to Personal Revelation right?  How about a movie night with Johnny Linggo, popcorn and soda?

 

[anatess2]

And how about a cooking night for mutual?

Maybe put these labels onto some real ingredient that actually makes into some yummy treat or something... or maybe just bake cookies or something and have this recipe thing to discuss and hand out at the activity or something.

Recipe for Personal Revelation
2 cups – Obey the Commandments (1 Ne 17:3)
4 cups – Have Faith (D&C 11:14)
1 cup – Study it in Your Mind (D&C 9:8)
1/2 cup – Read & Ponder Scriptures (2 Ne 32:2)
2 Tbl – Pray Earnestly (D&C 6:14-15)
1/4 cup – Be Meek & Humble (Alma 13:28-29)

Preheat oven to reverent location, conductive to receiving revelation. In a large bowl mix together the first four ingredients. Slowly add the fourth ingredient and stir well, until combined. Place in preheated oven until done. Remove and sprinkle on last ingredient. Enjoy!

[anatess2]

So, I guess for topics I have 2:

1.)  Things we need personal revelation for (like, choosing a wife).  Activity:  Johnny Lingo Movie Night

2.)  Preparing to receive personal revelation.  Activity:  Cooking

That's all I've got.  I'll add more if I think of something.

[anatess2]

I have one more: 

Chutes and Ladders game - you can make a giant version using masking tape where the game board is the entire cultural hall and the set pieces are the youth themselves.  Then you can make Personal Revelation consequences - good choices go up the ladder, bad choices go down the slide.

Topic would be:

3.)  Listening to the promptings of the Holy Ghost.

[anatess2]

One more:

"Mother May I?" game.  Not sure how to make this more teen-aged instead of kindergarten aged.  But this game can be adapted into a mutual activity for the topic:

4.)  Seek God's Will.

[anatess2]

One more:

Jeopardy! game.  The answers would be some event in the Bible that has to do with personal revelation - like "He is the apostle who said, 'You are the Christ'" and the question is Who is Peter?.... 

Topic:

5.)  Examples of Personal Revelations in Scripture.

[anatess2]

Last one:

Science Experiment Activity.  I found this thing on pinterest:  http://jonesing2create.com/young-women-activity-experiment-upon-word/

I've done these experiments for Cub Scouts and they are FUN... should still be fun for teen-agers.

Topic:

6.)  Testimony

[anatess2]

Ok, I can't believe that all came out of my head knowing nothing about Young Women.  Hope it helps.  I really don't want you to struggle anymore.  I want you to also have a Personal Revelation that builds your Testimony and gets you in a better place with your journey to Christ.  We love you here on lds.net.

[Anddenex]

1 hour ago, carlimac said:

So, first of all I haven't been released from my calling as YW 2nd counselor and doubt I will despite telling my husband who is in the bishopric, that I'm struggling.

So in the mean time I just got back from girls camp on Sat. I had an activity for mutual this week  pretty much all done and ready. Thought I'd have all week to prepare for teaching the first July lesson on ordinances and covenants on Sun. Then the stake president told us we need to make the next SIX weeknight mutual activities (including the one this week) about personal revelation. This is after he spent 45 min talking to all the girls in the stake at camp about how to receive personal revelation. 

So can anyone think of ways to break this topic down into six  consecutive lessons about it? Also I need ideas for some fun activities for learning about it because I think mutual should be a time to socialize and have fun. Not just a repeat of Sunday. Personally I feel it's a a great thing to learn about, but a bit "heavy" and redundant right now especially when they were just given the 5 goals from the prophet to focus on.  But I have to comply because the stake president's only child is in our ward, in my Beehives group. He is extremely finicky about small details and he's not afraid to let you know when you've messed up. Plus, I'm a bit afraid of not supporting my leaders. Lots of lightning storms in our area right now. I would surely get struck.

Hmmm...Why is he telling wards what they are to teach on when the First Presidency has already given the curriculum from the "Come Follow Me" manual? Here is what the Church has given to the whole body of the Church Young Women: https://www.lds.org/languages/eng/content/youth/learn/yw/ordinances-covenants/overview for the month of July (and August has its own also). Outlines to choose from this month:

    Why are ordinances important in my life?

    Why are covenants important in my life?

    What covenants did I make at baptism?

    How do I receive the gift of the Holy Ghost?

    Why are temple ordinances important?

    What does it mean to take upon myself the name of Jesus Christ?

These topics are very important for young women! I am totally able to understand a stake president inviting wards to make personal revelation a priority through the given manuals, and incorporating "personal revelation" within these topics (i.e. How do I receive the Holy Ghost, How can I know temple ordinances are for me). True, personal revelation is VERY important for us to know and learn about.

Sorry, that is even more difficult when family is in your class. At the same time, sometimes it is nice, because they tend to make sure things that should be happening are happening. Personally, I would incorporate personal revelation within these topics, and my first topic thought would be "How do I receive the gift of the Holy Ghost"?

Come Follow Me = Church => from First Presidency (at least those the First Presidency has delegated to give to us).

Sorry to hear about lightning storms, hopefully it isn't lightning storms of "unrighteous dominion." As he isn't my stake president, I am not under any obligation or covenant to accept or not to speak my thoughts, but as you are -- well, as you already know -- the Spirit will guide you as you do what you feel is best.

EDIT: Even August curriculum topics personal revelation is very important.

Outlines to choose from this month:

    Why is family important?

    Why is temple marriage important?

    Why is chastity important?

    Why is it important to follow the Church’s standards regarding dating?

    How can I prepare now to become a righteous wife and mother?

    How do the roles of men and women complement each other in families?

    How can I strengthen my family?

To subjugate any of these topics to solely personal revelation -- Bad Karma

Edited June 25, 2018 by Anddenex

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, Anddenex said:

Hmmm...Why is he telling wards what they are to teach on when the First Presidency has already given the curriculum from the "Come Follow Me" manual? Here is what the Church has given to the whole body of the Church Young Women: https://www.lds.org/languages/eng/content/youth/learn/yw/ordinances-covenants/overview for the month of July (and August has its own also). Outlines to choose from this month:

    Why are ordinances important in my life?

    Why are covenants important in my life?

    What covenants did I make at baptism?

    How do I receive the gift of the Holy Ghost?

    Why are temple ordinances important?

    What does it mean to take upon myself the name of Jesus Christ?

These topics are very important for young women! I am totally able to understand a stake president inviting wards to make personal revelation a priority through the given manuals, and incorporating "personal revelation" within these topics (i.e. How do I receive the Holy Ghost, How can I know temple ordinances are for me). True, personal revelation is VERY important for us to know and learn about.

Sorry, that is even more difficult when family is in your class. At the same time, sometimes it is nice, because they tend to make sure things that should be happening are happening. Personally, I would incorporate personal revelation within these topics, and my first topic thought would be "How do I receive the gift of the Holy Ghost"?

Come Follow Me = Church => from First Presidency (at least those the First Presidency has delegated to give to us).

Sorry to hear about lightning storms, hopefully it isn't lightning storms of "unrighteous dominion." As he isn't my stake president, I am not under any obligation or covenant to accept or not to speak my thoughts, but as you are -- well, as you already know -- the Spirit will guide you as you do what you feel is best.

EDIT: Even August curriculum topics personal revelation is very important.

Outlines to choose from this month:

    Why is family important?

    Why is temple marriage important?

    Why is chastity important?

    Why is it important to follow the Church’s standards regarding dating?

    How can I prepare now to become a righteous wife and mother?

    How do the roles of men and women complement each other in families?

    How can I strengthen my family?

To subjugate any of these topics to solely personal revelation -- Bad Karma

Sorry  if it wasn’t clear. These six lessons are to be given at Mutual mid-week. I’m not sure the kids are going to respond all that well. Last fall we had about a months worth of activities on “unity” and by the end the kids were so over that topic and emphasis. Lots of complaints!

[Anddenex]

5 minutes ago, Mcmomma said:

Sorry  if it wasn’t clear. These six lessons are to be given at Mutual mid-week. I’m not sure the kids are going to respond all that well. Last fall we had about a months worth of activities on “unity” and by the end the kids were so over that topic and emphasis. Lots of complaints!

My apologies, that was clear, my mind obviously busted when responding. But I agree one topic over multiple weeks can be over-kill for mutual.

I still don't understand why he feels to tell YW presidencies what they will teach on during the week. That should be discussed through the YW presidency, their stewardship. The invitation to incorporate personal revelation into the topics the YW presidency decide up -- I think wise. Solely focusing on this I would think the kids will also begin to be "so over that topic and emphasis."

Edited June 25, 2018 by Anddenex

[anatess2]

8 minutes ago, Mcmomma said:

Sorry  if it wasn’t clear. These six lessons are to be given at Mutual mid-week. I’m not sure the kids are going to respond all that well. Last fall we had about a months worth of activities on “unity” and by the end the kids were so over that topic and emphasis. Lots of complaints!

Wait... my understanding is Mutual is only one day a month.  At least that's what my boys do.  The YM and YW meet together for Mutual one day a month.  The other weeks they meet separately - the YM do Scouts and the YW do something else.

So these Personal Revelation lessons would span once a month for 6 months.

[carlimac]

27 minutes ago, anatess2 said:

Wait... my understanding is Mutual is only one day a month.  At least that's what my boys do.  The YM and YW meet together for Mutual one day a month.  The other weeks they meet separately - the YM do Scouts and the YW do something else.

So these Personal Revelation lessons would span once a month for 6 months.

I'm labeling all midweek activities "mutual". Some are all together and others are just by YW or YM class or age group.  It's mapped out as of yesterday - revelation is the topic we have to center our activities on till mid August with a few weeks off for 4th of July week and Youth Conference. 

Edited June 25, 2018 by carlimac

[carlimac]

31 minutes ago, Anddenex said:

My apologies, that was clear, my mind obviously busted when responding. But I agree one topic over multiple weeks can be over-kill for mutual.

I still don't understand why he feels to tell YW presidencies what they will teach on during the week. That should be discussed through the YW presidency, their stewardship. The invitation to incorporate personal revelation into the topics the YW presidency decide up -- I think wise. Solely focusing on this I would think the kids will also begin to be "so over that topic and emphasis."

You're not alone in not understanding. But what this stake president says- goes! He likes to  micro-manage and he's got some unusual and unpopular ideas. But like I said, I don't have the option to not follow along since his daughter in in my class. We're all just trying to keep the waters calm for another year or two till he gets released. We've been in this ward and stake for less than a year. Apparently feathers got pretty ruffled about a year ago. Some families even moved away to get away from it. And now every one is walking on eggshells. I'm slightly intimidated because he will see any handout I give and will hear about anything I say. I expect I'll get called on the carpet about something somewhere along the way.

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Edited June 25, 2018 by carlimac

[Fether]

3 hours ago, carlimac said:

So, first of all I haven't been released from my calling as YW 2nd counselor and doubt I will despite telling my husband who is in the bishopric, that I'm struggling.

So in the mean time I just got back from girls camp on Sat. I had an activity for mutual this week  pretty much all done and ready. Thought I'd have all week to prepare for teaching the first July lesson on ordinances and covenants on Sun. Then the stake president told us we need to make the next SIX weeknight mutual activities (including the one this week) about personal revelation. This is after he spent 45 min talking to all the girls in the stake at camp about how to receive personal revelation. 

So can anyone think of ways to break this topic down into six  consecutive lessons about it? Also I need ideas for some fun activities for learning about it because I think mutual should be a time to socialize and have fun. Not just a repeat of Sunday. Personally I feel it's a a great thing to learn about, but a bit "heavy" and redundant right now especially when they were just given the 5 goals from the prophet to focus on.  But I have to comply because the stake president's only child is in our ward, in my Beehives group. He is extremely finicky about small details and he's not afraid to let you know when you've messed up. Plus, I'm a bit afraid of not supporting my leaders. Lots of lightning storms in our area right now. I would surely get struck. 

 

Try this video

ANd don’t just show it, try to replicate it. Might lose some kids along the way but those that make it back will understand revelation

 

[mdfxdb]

1 hour ago, carlimac said:

You're not alone in not understanding. But what this stake president says- goes! He likes to  micro-manage and he's got some unusual and unpopular ideas. But like I said, I don't have the option to not follow along since his daughter in in my class. We're all just trying to keep the waters calm for another year or two till he gets released. We've been in this ward and stake for less than a year. Apparently feathers got pretty ruffled about a year ago. Some families even moved away to get away from it. And now every one is walking on eggshells. I'm slightly intimidated because he will see any handout I give and will hear about anything I say. I expect I'll get called on the carpet about something somewhere along the way.

Do your calling to the best of your ability.  Talk to your presidency about his guidance.  If you guys come up with something different tell your bishop.  If your bishop approves, then don't worry about it, and proceed as planned.

The Stake president has no business micro managing something under the Bishop, and YW presidents stewardship. 

[mdfxdb]

1 minute ago, mdfxdb said:

We're all just trying to keep the waters calm for another year or two till he gets released

Wow, just wow.  If what you are stating about this guy is true, then I would run the program with my presidency as we deem appropriate, and hopefully get released......

[Guest]

1 hour ago, mdfxdb said:

Wow, just wow.  If what you are stating about this guy is true, then I would run the program with my presidency as we deem appropriate, and hopefully get released......

It’s true. He was “talked to” by his superiors last year and has backed off but his interference in programs is creeping in again. This was a stake-wide mandate from him so at least it’s not just our ward having to figure this out. 

[Just_A_Guy]

3 hours ago, carlimac said:

You're not alone in not understanding. But what this stake president says- goes! He likes to  micro-manage and he's got some unusual and unpopular ideas. But like I said, I don't have the option to not follow along since his daughter in in my class. We're all just trying to keep the waters calm for another year or two till he gets released. We've been in this ward and stake for less than a year. Apparently feathers got pretty ruffled about a year ago. Some families even moved away to get away from it. And now every one is walking on eggshells. I'm slightly intimidated because he will see any handout I give and will hear about anything I say. I expect I'll get called on the carpet about something somewhere along the way.

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Tell him you got your own “personal revelation” to run the program your way.  

[anatess2]

13 hours ago, Just_A_Guy said:

Tell him you got your own “personal revelation” to run the program your way.  

No need for devil emoticon.  THIS is how it needs to be run.  When a person of higher authority exceeds his bounds then it becomes unrighteous dominion and therefore the personal revelation of the people in proper authority may supercede.  Still, this would be under the authority of the YW Presidency and the Bishop and, therefore, would be best discussed between them.  It is not right to bear resentment against the Stake President either and do your calling with a heavy heart due to that resentment.  Therefore, something needs to happen to get that bad juju out of your YW program as it is the YW that are eventually going to be the ones to pay for it.

[askandanswer]

Before following what the Stake President has asked, I would discuss the matter with the person who has the immediate Priesthood authority for the operation of the YW program in your ward - your Bishop. If he then approves the Stake President's request, then I would be more comfortable about following it, and you can tell your YW you are doing it because this is what the Bishop said. My suspicision is that there is not a lot in the relevant handbooks about the Stake President's responsibilities in relation to YW. 

[askandanswer]

ps

Revealing seems to be somewhat counter to the YW value of modesty, so on that basis I'd be reluctant to teach them about reveal ation.  

Edited June 27, 2018 by askandanswer

[SilentOne]

2 hours ago, askandanswer said:

ps

Revealing seems to be somewhat counter to the YW value of modesty, so on that basis I'd be reluctant to teach them about revealation.  

Last I was aware, the YW values were faith, divine nature, individual worth, knowledge, choice and accountability, good works, integrity, and virtue. When was modesty added? 😇

Edited June 27, 2018 by SilentOne