Vort Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/31/smug-seattle-keeps-throwing-money-after-streetcar-bike-lane-fiasco-that-s-totally-off-rails.html Good old Seattle. Is there any place in the world that has such a divine setting and such infernal leadership? I would feel much worse for the city if its clueless inhabitants didn't keep voting themselves idiotic "leadership" such as Kshama Sawant. No, Seattle deserves its misery. Stupidity is its own reward. mrmarklin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 Holy insanity, Batman! $13 million for 1 mile of bike lane!? Not that I need one, but that article is reason enough to not move to Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anatess2 Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 Ahhh hah hah... Seattle-based Starbucks quit using the illegal plastic straws in paper packaging and started using the legal paper straws in plastic packaging. Okay okay... so I don't know if this is true. But I won't be surprised if it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 It wouldn't be so bad if Seattle were not so proficient at getting the county and state to pay for its foolish excesses. Vort 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeedleinA Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 6 hours ago, Vort said: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/31/smug-seattle-keeps-throwing-money-after-streetcar-bike-lane-fiasco-that-s-totally-off-rails.html Good old Seattle. Is there any place in the world that has such a divine setting and such infernal leadership? I would feel much worse for the city if its clueless inhabitants didn't keep voting themselves idiotic "leadership" such as Kshama Sawant. No, Seattle deserves its misery. Stupidity is its own reward. Any major anchor keeping you there? The smog of Utah Valley is always an alternative. (I was just there and holy moly batman things are not too peachy. Maybe they can put Geneva Steel back into production to help clean things up) zil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, NeedleinA said: The smog of Utah Valley is always an alternative. At least it's not a smug smog. For that, you have to go to Park City. NeedleinA, Just_A_Guy and Vort 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scott Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 In a lot of ways, I'm glad I no longer work for the state department of transportation (I did for several years). I was in engineering. I can't vouch for Seattle/Washington DOTs, but I do know that we did work hard and that the public microscope was always on us (everything we did was public record). The thing is that we knew that if we ever did screw up that whatever we did could make the news really quickly. I worked as hard as my DOT job as I did in the private industry, but in a lot of ways, the pressure is less in the private industry. With the DOT we didn't have to worry about profits and getting laid off, but there is stress knowing that any mistake you made could end up on the evening news. I am glad that nothing I ever did made the news. Of course, I'm not justifying what Seattle did; it sounds like someone really screwed up. They should be called out. I'm just reminiscing about the stress I used to have worried that if I ever did make a mistake that it would hit the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) Seattle is one of my favorite places in the world. It was one of my favorite areas (downtown - Queen Anne, Capitol and Magnolia hills) when I served as a missionary. When I arrived in Seattle there were no investigators and yet we had baptisms every week while I served there. It was an incredible experience. Last year I attended the ward where a new building was just completed when I first arrived as a missionary - surprise there was someone there that remembered me from 50 years ago. However, my beloved Seattle has a long history of silly and stupid leadership that dates back to it founding and so-called progressive ideas to create business opportunity for drug distribution, prostitution and human trafficking (which is the same in my mind as slavery). When I returned to the area to work for Boeing - the Airport district was out of control - again fueled by drugs, prostitution and human trafficking. It was while serving as a missionary in Seattle that I first became aware of the Venusian Church (dedicated to the worship of Venus). It was while living in the Seattle area that the state determined that free speech included the necessity of a porn section in the public library that lawfully could not exclude minors. Wow! That drugs, prostitution and human trafficking still remains a popular industry in Seattle should not be a surprise to anyone. But even on this forum are some of my spiritual mentors that remain in the greater Seattle area. It is the strange dichotomy of polar opposites in Seattle; the best example I know of opposition in all things. BTW - I still love Seattle and would live there in a heartbeat - but my dear wife that I love more; is a sun lady and cannot deal with the rainy days. So now we live in the Salt Lake City area with summer unending weeks on end full of smoke from wild fires. The Traveler Edited August 11, 2018 by Traveler Vort 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 8:55 PM, zil said: At least it's not a smug smog. For that, you have to go to Park City. No you don't. The avenues are full of it. The Traveler zil and Just_A_Guy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahlia Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) On 7/31/2018 at 10:46 PM, Scott said: In a lot of ways, I'm glad I no longer work for the state department of transportation (I did for several years). I was in engineering. I can't vouch for Seattle/Washington DOTs, but I do know that we did work hard and that the public microscope was always on us (everything we did was public record). The thing is that we knew that if we ever did screw up that whatever we did could make the news really quickly. I worked as hard as my DOT job as I did in the private industry, but in a lot of ways, the pressure is less in the private industry. With the DOT we didn't have to worry about profits and getting laid off, but there is stress knowing that any mistake you made could end up on the evening news. I am glad that nothing I ever did made the news. Of course, I'm not justifying what Seattle did; it sounds like someone really screwed up. They should be called out. I'm just reminiscing about the stress I used to have worried that if I ever did make a mistake that it would hit the news. I did my dissertation work on managers and their immediate staff in Seattle's City Hall. I can tell you that I was so impressed with the work ethic of everyone I met. I'm from DC and very familiar with the type of person who works in DC's City Hall. It's night and day. Seattlites are actually proud of what they do and want to help the citizens. Folks in DC could care less. They get their check whether you're in line for 4 hours or 40 minutes. Trust me, I went in expecting a bunch of clock-watchers, but everyone was just the opposite. You are correct that one of the fears I heard repeatedly was doing something that might wind up in the papers. : ) eta - I miss Seattle; it was a lovely place to live, but it's gone downhill and gotten too expensive at the same time. I had thought about going back to that area to live, but not now. Edited August 17, 2018 by dahlia Sunday21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted August 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 minute ago, dahlia said: I did my dissertation work on managers and their immediate staff in Seattle's City Hall. I can tell you that I was so impressed with the work ethic of everyone I met. I'm from DC and very familiar with the type of person who works in DC's City Hall. It's night and day. Seattlites are actually proud of what they do and want to help the citizens. Folks in DC could care less. They get their check whether you're in line for 4 hours or 40 minutes. Trust me, I went in expecting a bunch of clock-watchers, but everyone was just the opposite. I wish I could say I was happy to hear that, but instead it makes me dread the idea of doing anything in DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahlia Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, Vort said: I wish I could say I was happy to hear that, but instead it makes me dread the idea of doing anything in DC. Be afraid, be very afraid. One of my sisters wanted to be authorized to do substitute teaching in Montgomery County, MD, just across the DC border. They had her prints, picture, and whatever else they needed in less than 30 minutes. Then she went to DC for the same thing and they took hours. They are not 'civil servants,' they are drones collecting a check and they don't care about the city, the job, or the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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