laronius Posted October 10, 2022 Report Posted October 10, 2022 Does anyone have Joseph Fielding Smith's book The Signs of the Times? I came across a reference to that book that intrigued me and I was curious if Smith expounded more upon it than what was quoted. It said page 41. He is talking about the earth being burned at the Lord's coming. Here is the quote: "Somebody said, ‘Brother Smith, do you mean to say that it is going to be literal fire?’ I said, ‘Oh, no, it will not be literal fire any more than it was literal water that covered the earth in the flood.’" Of all the interpretations of the flood I've heard this is the first that implies there was no rain involved at all. Anddenex 1 Quote
scottyg Posted October 10, 2022 Report Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, laronius said: Does anyone have Joseph Fielding Smith's book The Signs of the Times? I came across a reference to that book that intrigued me and I was curious if Smith expounded more upon it than what was quoted. It said page 41. He is talking about the earth being burned at the Lord's coming. Here is the quote: "Somebody said, ‘Brother Smith, do you mean to say that it is going to be literal fire?’ I said, ‘Oh, no, it will not be literal fire any more than it was literal water that covered the earth in the flood.’" Of all the interpretations of the flood I've heard this is the first that implies there was no rain involved at all. The way I read that was his way of telling those people "duh". Literal water means real water, and literal fire means real fire. He was assuming that everyone viewed the flood as a literal thing. It is also my understanding that this caused a stir among people regarding this same question, and in future editions he actually put in a footnote explaining himself. Quote
Anddenex Posted October 10, 2022 Report Posted October 10, 2022 That's an intriguing quote I have not come across. I'm not a believer that the world will be covered by "fire" as we know it, like a camp fire or forest fire. What type of "fire" will the glory of God create? That is more the fire that will come. Would like to know about the clarification provided. Quote
Still_Small_Voice Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 Joseph Smith History verse 37 reads as follows: "For behold, the day cometh that shall burn as an oven, and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly shall burn as stubble; for they that come shall burn them, saith the Lord of Hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch." Quote
mordorbund Posted October 12, 2022 Report Posted October 12, 2022 Will it be a global burning or a local one? Just_A_Guy and Anddenex 2 Quote
Carborendum Posted October 12, 2022 Report Posted October 12, 2022 I thought it was because Jeannie forgot to turn off the water. Quote
JohnsonJones Posted October 13, 2022 Report Posted October 13, 2022 IF we take the Bible literally, I wonder at times if the old myths about the fountains under the earth have a source of reality in them. If, as we have imagined at times, there was more of a mist than a rain in the days of Eden, it is possible that perhaps there was a lot less water on the surface of the earth itself and more in groundwater. What if there were no oceans? The earth was divided as we read in the Bible, perhaps if it were that they lived on what is now the bottom of the seabeds, a climb up to the higher lands probably was not something that was considered necessary or easy in general. If suddenly these waters burst forth, and the oceans formed, it certainly would seem as if the world had flooded. Obviously this is not something to seriously consider, but it is something I've pondered at times when reading old myths about the pillars of the earth (in many myths these pillars are water or other items) and how myths at times have a grain of truth to them. Quote
Anddenex Posted October 13, 2022 Report Posted October 13, 2022 10 hours ago, mordorbund said: Will it be a global burning or a local one? Local of course, because there is no way fire could cover the whole earth, I mean look at all the "water!" Carborendum 1 Quote
laronius Posted October 13, 2022 Author Report Posted October 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Anddenex said: Local of course, because there is no way fire could cover the whole earth, I mean look at all the "water!" Maybe that's why Elijah was taken up, he seem to have the unique skill of burning water. Might come in handy. 😁 Anddenex 1 Quote
romans8 Posted October 29, 2022 Report Posted October 29, 2022 On 10/9/2022 at 8:35 PM, laronius said: Of all the interpretations of the flood I've heard this is the first that implies there was no rain involved at all. Maybe he did not believe Genesis 9:8-17. Flood and water are mentioned several times. Quote
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