Lady Ballers Trailer

[Carborendum]

As of this post: 19.3 M views on X.  1.1 M views on Youtube.

After only one day.

 

[Ironhold]

I take it that I'm the only person who remembers this one from back in 2002? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juwanna_Mann

It's a sports comedy about a failed basketball player who dresses in drag and plays on an all-female team to rebuild his career. 

I've never seen it, and quite frankly it's low on my priority list. 

[Just_A_Guy]

I’m probably just showing my age here, but . . . 
While I agree with the political point that I’m sure the producers are making, the trailer seemed to have a lot of crudity and double-entendres that don’t really impress me in the media I consume.  

I’m not sure that aiding and abetting—or even just accepting and reflecting—the general coarsening of society, is really helpful in the broader goal of protecting innocence and virtue.  

[Carborendum]

24 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:

I’m probably just showing my age here, but . . . 
While I agree with the political point that I’m sure the producers are making, the trailer seemed to have a lot of crudity and double-entendres that don’t really impress me in the media I consume.  

I’m not sure that aiding and abetting—or even just accepting and reflecting—the general coarsening of society, is really helpful in the broader goal of protecting innocence and virtue.  

I think that is a fair commentary.

I've seen a number of the Daily Wire productions.  And they seem to be shooting for what Hollywood could have been if it hadn't been taken over by the Woke Mob.  And they do indeed have conservative political motivations and ideology.  But that doesn't mean that they are shoving conservative family / religious values down our throats either.  It seems that they are not at all interested in that side of it.  And they also have a children's entertainment brand that understands what "family friendly" means.  But that doesn't really carry over into the films they know are targeted at a more mature audience. 

They just want to make movies that are actually entertaining without the politics.  So, yeah, they get crude in some of their films.

Edited November 30, 2023 by Carborendum

[LDSGator]

37 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:

I’m probably just showing my age here, but . . . 
While I agree with the political point that I’m sure the producers are making, the trailer seemed to have a lot of crudity and double-entendres that don’t really impress me in the media I consume.  

I’m not sure that aiding and abetting—or even just accepting and reflecting—the general coarsening of society, is really helpful in the broader goal of protecting innocence and virtue.  

@Just_A_Guy-this why the right always loses in the culture war. People want “conservative entertainment” then complain about it being too rude.  The filmmakers can’t win. 
 

Why bother appealing to anyone on the right of this what you’ll get? 

Edited November 30, 2023 by LDSGator

[The Folk Prophet]

20 minutes ago, LDSGator said:

The filmmakers can’t win. 

One of the things I dislike about the Daily Wire's approach (based on statements they've made) is that they don't see anything wrong with language, sex, violence, and the like. I think they'd love to make a Game of Thrones hit or the like. And they are completely oblivious to the fact that doing so is not going to help re-moralize or save the country's culture.

Whereas I think making fun of what they're making fun of here is theoretically great, I agree whole-heartedly with @Just_A_Guy.

Yes...it's extremely difficult to make good solid entertaining entertainment that doesn't include that sort of garbage. That doesn't mean it isn't doable. Heck, Disney did it for decades. It's hard, but it's doable.

And, yes, I understand there are shades of grey and it's really hard to find that balance in entertainment. As it's often pointed out, a legitimate Book of Mormon or Bible movie would probably end up being R-rated.

But crude humor about women with "the biggest ____ I've ever seen" is clearly not in that gray area of what sort of entertainment is morally uplifting and useful to bring people back from the grasp of Satan within which our culture is caught.

24 minutes ago, LDSGator said:

@Just_A_Guy-this why the right always loses in the culture war.

Yep. The "right" as you put it, will lose the culture war because they aren't the left. That is correct.

I love that the Daily Wire is trying to win back the culture. But they will not succeed. You can't bring an evil culture back from being evil by giving them a different kind of evil.

[The Folk Prophet]

1 hour ago, Just_A_Guy said:

I’m probably just showing my age here, but . . . 
While I agree with the political point that I’m sure the producers are making, the trailer seemed to have a lot of crudity and double-entendres that don’t really impress me in the media I consume.  

I’m not sure that aiding and abetting—or even just accepting and reflecting—the general coarsening of society, is really helpful in the broader goal of protecting innocence and virtue.  

It might be your (our) age, but.... the kind of comedy this is emulating has always been one that I despise. Crude juvenile humor has never appealed to me, personally, even when I was juvenile.

[LDSGator]

10 minutes ago, The Folk Prophet said:

One of the things I dislike about the Daily Wire's approach (based on statements they've made) is that they don't see anything wrong with language, sex, violence, and the like. I think they'd love to make a Game of Thrones hit or the like. And they are completely oblivious to the fact that doing so is not going to help re-moralize or save the country's culture.

Whereas I think making fun of what they're making fun of here is theoretically great, I agree whole-heartedly with @Just_A_Guy.

Yes...it's extremely difficult to make good solid entertaining entertainment that doesn't include that sort of garbage. That doesn't mean it isn't doable. Heck, Disney did it for decades. It's hard, but it's doable.

And, yes, I understand there are shades of grey and it's really hard to find that balance in entertainment. As it's often pointed out, a legitimate Book of Mormon or Bible movie would probably end up being R-rated.

But crude humor about women with "the biggest ____ I've ever seen" is clearly not in that gray area of what sort of entertainment is morally uplifting and useful to bring people back from the grasp of Satan within which our culture is caught.

Yep. The "right" as you put it, will lose the culture war because they aren't the left. That is correct.

I love that the Daily Wire is trying to win back the culture. But they will not succeed. You can't bring an evil culture back from being evil by giving them a different kind of evil.

That’s fine, you have every right to watch and enjoy whatever media you’d like to. 
 

I still can’t help but shake that this criticism is more about the critic. I’m fully  convinced that if they made a G rated film, people would complain it’s too corny.

[LDSGator]

10 minutes ago, The Folk Prophet said:

Crude juvenile humor has never appealed to me, personally, even when I was juvenile.

Ironically it’s never appealed to me either. 

[LDSGator]

3 hours ago, The Folk Prophet said:

Yep. The "right" as you put it, will lose the culture war because they aren't the lef

Nope, they’ll lose because they are never satisfied and will always find something to complain about. They like losing because it makes them feel noble. They can continue complaining about our sick society because they view themselves as more moral than those horrible sinners.  They don’t want to win because then they’d have nothing to snobbishly look down upon.  
 

They also seem to genuinely enjoy complaining without offering solutions or accepting the solutions others offer. Which is also called whining.  

Edited November 30, 2023 by LDSGator

[Just_A_Guy]

3 hours ago, LDSGator said:

That’s fine, you have every right to watch and enjoy whatever media you’d like to. 
 

I still can’t help but shake that this criticism is more about the critic. I’m fully  convinced that if they made a G rated film, people would complain it’s too corny.

Perhaps.  It’s a really hard thing to come up with something that is original, entertaining, has a solid story, has good underlying values, is executed well, and is “clean”.  I think that’s why Pixar—up until the last 10 years or so—was such a unicorn.

I think your point about “the right can’t win” probably has some merit—not because conservatives are inherently “nattering nabobs of negativity”; but because a) “family values” types who are offended enough by crudity to vote with their wallets are probably a distinct minority generally; and b) the modern American political right is by its nature a fractious bunch—an uncomfortable alliance between values/social/religious conservatives with rigid moral codes, and business-types and secular libertarians who might value “law and order” but have little use for stringent personal ethics (especially self-discipline or sexual probity) so long as stores aren’t being robbed and contracts are being honored.  

Edited November 30, 2023 by Just_A_Guy

[The Folk Prophet]

3 hours ago, LDSGator said:

Nope, they’ll lose because they are never satisfied and will always find something to complain about.

I think I'll stop complaining when the Savior returns. 

[Carborendum]

3 hours ago, The Folk Prophet said:

You can't bring an evil culture back from being evil by giving them a different kind of evil.

What?  Haven't you seen Chronicles of Riddick?

[Carborendum]

12 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:

Perhaps.  It’s a really hard thing to come up with something that is original, entertaining, has a solid story, has good underlying values, is executed well, and is “clean”.  

Yes, it can be difficult.

I had thought Secondhand Lions was just a small time film that didn't do all that well at the box office.  But our eccentric family just happened to love in.

Then I started noticing how many people have come to our home shouting praises over this film.  I've stopped counting.  

[LDSGator]

9 hours ago, Just_A_Guy said:

because conservatives are inherently “nattering nabobs of negativity”

I think Reagan was the outlier because he was a cheerful, optimistic conservative.  Before him that stereotype of the grouchy, always unhappy and snarling conservative (like one of my political heroes, AuH2o) had a lot of truth to it. 

I think I was exactly right when I said conservatives like complaining because it makes them feel moral. It’s their way of patting themselves on the back because they like showing off how they think society is evil and how they are above it.

White liberals do the same thing with race so they can say how racist society is-but then they support BLM from their mansions so they can be “above” it. 

Edited November 30, 2023 by LDSGator

[LDSGator]

9 hours ago, The Folk Prophet said:

I think I'll stop complaining when the Savior returns. 

That’s fine-it’s your life after all-but does it ever get depressing or just exhausting? Or is it like a habit-something you like doing? 
 

I’m genuinely curious. Like everyone else I have my moments but I try to go to extra mile to not spend my days complaining. Especially about things I can’t change.  None of my friend are complainers either. So I don’t have anyone like that in my life. 
 

Again, I’m not perfect, so yes, I do it too sometimes.

Edited November 30, 2023 by LDSGator

[The Folk Prophet]

1 hour ago, LDSGator said:

That’s fine-it’s your life after all-but does it ever get depressing or just exhausting?

It's called long-suffering and it's a virtue!

1 hour ago, LDSGator said:

Or is it like a habit-something you like doing? 

Seriously...are you suggesting complacency and apathy for the sake of peace of mind would be better?

Like...really? Is that what you're trying to imply. People who hope for godliness, cleanliness, righteousness, and peace on earth should just give up because it's depressing and exhausting and they can't ever win?

1 hour ago, LDSGator said:

to not spend my days complaining

You're the one who's phrasing it as "complaining" and applying the cynical tone to what's being discusses. I don't consider it "complaining" to state that I wish Lady Ballers wasn't so crude. I admit it can be looked at that way. But I don't really think it's legitimate to call any criticism (from the right or the left) "complaining". I mean isn't your statement that the right are never satisfied and trying to make themselves feel noble really just you complaining about the right? Would that really be a fair way for me to look at it?

Someone can't even state they have a preference one thing over another without it being considered complaining?

I mean it's really just shutting down debate. Any time anyone says "I don't care for _________________" you're going to accuse them of just being whiney complainers and virtue signaling to look noble? Do you really think that's all Just A Guy was doing?

But anyhow...

I'm sorry...certain things DESERVE to be complained about. You may be desensitized to the poop they smear on the burgers you eat, but I think complaining about poop being smeared on my burger is fully justified.

It really comes across like you're response is, "Everyone likes poop on their burgers. You complaining about it makes you look pathetic. We gave you a burger without cyanide in it like you asked? Is nothing good enough for you?! Now shut up and eat the poop burger!"

No thanks. I don't want poop on my burger. And I'm gonna complain about it.

[LDSGator]

19 minutes ago, The Folk Prophet said:

It's called long-suffering and it's a virtue!

Seriously...are you suggesting complacency and apathy for the sake of peace of mind would be better?

Like...really? Is that what you're trying to imply. People who hope for godliness, cleanliness, righteousness, and peace on earth should just give up because it's depressing and exhausting and they can't ever win?

You're the one who's phrasing it as "complaining" and applying the cynical tone to what's being discusses. I don't consider it "complaining" to state that I wish Lady Ballers wasn't so crude. I admit it can be looked at that way. But I don't really think it's legitimate to call any criticism (from the right or the left) "complaining". I mean isn't your statement that the right are never satisfied and trying to make themselves feel noble really just you complaining about the right? Would that really be a fair way for me to look at it?

Someone can't even state they have a preference one thing over another without it being considered complaining?

I mean it's really just shutting down debate. Any time anyone says "I don't care for _________________" you're going to accuse them of just being whiney complainers and virtue signaling to look noble? Do you really think that's all Just A Guy was doing?

But anyhow...

I'm sorry...certain things DESERVE to be complained about. You may be desensitized to the poop they smear on the burgers you eat, but I think complaining about poop being smeared on my burger is fully justified.

It really comes across like you're response is, "Everyone likes poop on their burgers. You complaining about it makes you look pathetic. We gave you a burger without cyanide in it like you asked? Is nothing good enough for you?! Now shut up and eat the poop burger!"

No thanks. I don't want poop on my burger. And I'm gonna complain about it.

That’s cool it’s your life. Good luck with all that.

And yes, I do think 85% of the complaining conservatives do is virtue signaling. No apologies. Some seem to complain so much that when they have legit concerns no one listens because we’re tired of hearing “Wolf! Wolf!” 

Edited November 30, 2023 by LDSGator

[LDSGator]

On 11/30/2023 at 10:35 AM, The Folk Prophet said:

You may be desensitized to the poop they smear on the burgers you eat, but I think complaining about poop being smeared on my burger is fully justified.

 

Ironically, you piously complain about not liking juvenile and gross humor and then use this as a metaphor.  That’s awesome. Like legit, 5 star “I have to screen shot this and show friends” awesome. I was already having a wonderful day and you made it ten times better. 

Edited December 2, 2023 by LDSGator

[The Folk Prophet]

30 minutes ago, LDSGator said:

That’s cool it’s your life. Good luck with all that.

And yes, I do think 85% of the complaining conservatives do is virtue signaling. No apologies. Some seem to complain so much that when they have legit concerns no one listens because we’re tired of hearing “Wolf! Wolf!” 

Is it also ironic that that tends to be how I feel about your complaining about conservatives complaining.

"There goes LDSGator again, complaining about conservatives, thinking he's all holier than them as he does exactly the same thing."

[LDSGator]

3 minutes ago, The Folk Prophet said:

Is it also ironic that that tends to be how I feel about your complaining about conservatives complaining.

"There goes LDSGator again, complaining about conservatives, thinking he's all holier than them as he does exactly the same thing."

At least we’re laughing. It’s made the rounds a few times. 

Edited November 30, 2023 by LDSGator

[The Folk Prophet]

10 hours ago, Carborendum said:

Yes, it can be difficult.

I had thought Secondhand Lions was just a small time film that didn't do all that well at the box office.  But our eccentric family just happened to love in.

Then I started noticing how many people have come to our home shouting praises over this film.  I've stopped counting.  

Give me Angel Studios over Daily Wire 6 days a week and twice on Sundays.

[Carborendum]

7 minutes ago, The Folk Prophet said:

Give me Angel Studios over Daily Wire 6 days a week and twice on Sundays.

Well, it was a WB production, I believe

[The Folk Prophet]

1 minute ago, Carborendum said:

Well, it was a WB production, I believe

Sorry. I wasn't suggesting Secondhand Lions was and Angel Studios movie. I can see how that came across though. I was just using another example of a studio that has made movies that aren't crude but are also quality entertainment.

[JohnsonJones]

On 11/30/2023 at 9:40 AM, The Folk Prophet said:

Give me Angel Studios over Daily Wire 6 days a week and twice on Sundays.

I've heard of Angel Studios!

I didn't know Daily Wire made movies until this thread.

I'd probably vote more for Angel Studios than Daily Wire from what I've read here and that trailer above.