Manners Matter Posted December 22, 2023 Report Share Posted December 22, 2023 If I remember correctly, some time between 2016 to 2018, the Church said all verses should be sung for the Sacrament hymn. I've been trying to find where that was stated/written but no luck. I'm also trying to find if not singing all the verses for the Sacrament hymn was part of the changes when we went to just 1 hour (I can't imagine it would've been given the reason for the change just a few years prior). Any help with finding references for either/both of the above would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Folk Prophet Posted December 22, 2023 Report Share Posted December 22, 2023 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/hymns/using-the-hymnbook?lang=eng¶=title8-p19#title8 Selecting Verses to Be Sung You need not feel compelled to sing all the verses of a hymn unless the message is otherwise incomplete. However, do not routinely shorten a hymn by singing just the first one or two verses. Singing the verses printed below the music is encouraged. askandanswer, zil2 and MrShorty 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil2 Posted December 22, 2023 Report Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Manners Matter said: If I remember correctly, some time between 2016 to 2018, the Church said all verses should be sung for the Sacrament hymn. I've been trying to find where that was stated/written but no luck. I'm also trying to find if not singing all the verses for the Sacrament hymn was part of the changes when we went to just 1 hour (I can't imagine it would've been given the reason for the change just a few years prior). Any help with finding references for either/both of the above would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! I don't think this was a Church-wide instruction. We had a stake president who instructed all the wards to sing all the verses of every hymn sung during Sacrament meeting. But it was announced that this was instruction from the SP. I don't remember ever hearing anything like it from Church HQ (doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that I don't remember it). mirkwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carborendum Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 16 hours ago, zil2 said: I don't think this was a Church-wide instruction. We had a stake president who instructed all the wards to sing all the verses of every hymn sung during Sacrament meeting. But it was announced that this was instruction from the SP. I don't remember ever hearing anything like it from Church HQ (doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that I don't remember it). It must be one very long meeting if they sing either A Poor Wayfaring Man of Grief or The Star Spangled Banner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil2 Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Carborendum said: It must be one very long meeting if they sing either A Poor Wayfaring Man of Grief or The Star Spangled Banner. I suspect that's why the practice stopped - those who chose the music were never choosing to sing any of the longer hymns. How Firm a Foundation is another that would get skipped. I'm leaving strict instructions that should I die (as opposed to the Second Coming happening first), there is to be no funeral. But if they rebel and insist on holding a funeral, they are to do nothing but sing every single verse of all my favorite hymns - I'll leave a list. How Firm a Foundation and A Poor Wayfaring Man of Grief will be on that list. (And if they do anything other than sing all my favorite hymns, I'll come back and haunt whoever made that decision.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordorbund Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 43 minutes ago, zil2 said: I suspect that's why the practice stopped - those who chose the music were never choosing to sing any of the longer hymns. How Firm a Foundation is another that would get skipped. I'm leaving strict instructions that should I die (as opposed to the Second Coming happening first), there is to be no funeral. But if they rebel and insist on holding a funeral, they are to do nothing but sing every single verse of all my favorite hymns - I'll leave a list. How Firm a Foundation and A Poor Wayfaring Man of Grief will be on that list. (And if they do anything other than sing all my favorite hymns, I'll come back and haunt whoever made that decision.) Don’t forget all 134 verses of Follow the Prophet zil2 and Carborendum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmanuel Goldstein Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Carborendum said: It must be one very long meeting if they sing either A Poor Wayfaring Man of Grief or The Star Spangled Banner. Not if they are all sung at the proper, non-dirge, speed. Edited December 23, 2023 by Emmanuel Goldstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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