My wife says I have the ability to see the future

[Canuck Mormon]

What I want to know is if all these people have ESP or can see the future, why dont they get on the news and warn others? I mean, when the prophets of God are told or have a revelation from Him the first thing they do is warn their bretheren!!

Do you not see the homeless people with the sign on them saying the world is going to end? Seriously though, I think that there are somethings we do not understand about the ability of the brain. There have been times when I have experienced deja vu, and it was a very strong feeling of deja vu.

That being said, there are days when I can't even see my own feet let alone the future.

[Adeipho]

Do you not see the homeless people with the sign on them saying the world is going to end? Seriously though, I think that there are somethings we do not understand about the ability of the brain. There have been times when I have experienced deja vu, and it was a very strong feeling of deja vu.

That being said, there are days when I can't even see my own feet let alone the future.

I read something on deja vu. Scientists are now under the impression that when you experience something it is stored as a memory, and if you experience something simular to another experience, be it a smell, or place, etc, your memory that was stored will "blend" with the new experience causing a deja vu effect.

It was much more technical than that but made a lot of sense. As for myself, I am a "peripheral visionist" which is to say that I can actually see into the future, but just way way off to the side.

[Elgama]

What I want to know is if all these people have ESP or can see the future, why dont they get on the news and warn others? I mean, when the prophets of God are told or have a revelation from Him the first thing they do is warn their bretheren!! So, I guess I dont believe in ESP but I do believe in revelation from God either personal or church wide depending on one's authority to recieve such revelations. There is also a thing called disernment but that has to do more with knowing truth rather than knowing future

I predict that this reply will end in a period. <------- see the period?!? I HAVE ESP!!

because lol I Heavenly Father hasn't called me to do that - and I don't know always that what I am doing is predicting the future or my imagination for example 1 week before 9/11 I wrote a story about the destruction of the twin towers by an alien ship flying into it, I'd had a dream the night before thought it would be a cool story, I'd fleshed it out and had written about 3 chapters but haven't touched it since the real event it feels weird. Up until the planes flew into the towers I just thought it was a great story when I saw it happen I realised it wasn't just a dream (I hadn't seen the planes flying just the collapse of the tower and knew something had flown into them)

-Charley

[tiancum]

A great many people in the world see things that will transpire before they happen through revelation from God.

They do NOT reveal it to the masses because it is not within their stewardship. They understand that the rev. was for them, not their neighbor. If the general population of the church or world needs to know, then it will come through priesthood channels.

The reason the Lord lets them see the "hidden things/mysteries" is because He knows they will not set themselves up as a light to the world and desire honors/power for what they see. They will not give what is holy unto the dogs.

[Adeipho]

You have a valid point about stewardship, however if I knew a place was about to go I'd at least yell out a warning as I booked it down the road in my sports car out running the fire of heaven! I'd keep my revelation sacred but at the same time I'd be like, "YO FOOL! GET IN YOUR CAR AND FOLLOW ME NOW....What? Dont argue just follow me or else! Move it Move it! Fire's a commin! " Then I'd put the pedal to the metal.

[Elgama]

You have a valid point about stewardship, however if I knew a place was about to go I'd at least yell out a warning as I booked it down the road in my sports car out running the fire of heaven! I'd keep my revelation sacred but at the same time I'd be like, "YO FOOL! GET IN YOUR CAR AND FOLLOW ME NOW....What? Dont argue just follow me or else! Move it Move it! Fire's a commin! " Then I'd put the pedal to the metal.

we'd be almost as successful as Noah who was called of God:)

-Charley

[crytsprospect]

Your so right E.:) but we should always listen to gift if intuition, forsight we have been givin or loose the gift.

My PB says " angels will whisper in your ear and warn you when danger is near" I 've taken this to heart since I was a teen and been saved many a time from problems, pain just by listening.

Speaking of pain my body is really hurting today but my spirit is in wonderful shape because of my new outlook and all I am doing to feel better at least mentally and spiritually.

Blessings to all.

[Adeipho]

If someday I get to be an angel whispering in someone's ear, the first thing I'm gonna whisper is "Put everything on 44!"

[orrinjelo]

Okay.

If I ever enter into drawings, and I do win, I always know beforehand (~5 minutes beforehand) that I will win.

It works with games, too, sometimes. I was playing some kind of chance game and I declared I was going to win, although the odds were against me winning. I knew. And I won.

There was something that was very recent which I can't remember right now...

Otherwise, I have to play according to Murphy's law. And that the most probable outcome will happen most. But Murphy's law always seems to hit the nail.

[Hemidakota]

In society its often called ESP, Remote Viewing, clairvoyance. What ever the description I now have my first firm believer that I have the ability to do it. She firmly believes I have it after I told her of a global event that resulted in mass casualties.

Personally it does not happen often. But want to know if there are others out there that have the ability to see future events happen hours or days before thay occure? Perhaps others in this board that have it? My Bishop has really put me down thinking that I would declare my self some kind of profit but in really that is TOTALLY untrue. I just wanted some expert advice on how to deal with it. But obviously I turned to the wrong person.

BTW I do not bring these gifts up in conversation anymore. To many people I talk to are uncomfortable discussing it.

BTW Plan on spending more time on this discussion board about the LDS faith. Great web site! :)

When the military is looking for 'Remote Viewers', they will look for LDS active members.

Seers are not called but is a talent from on high. Many have this gift.

[kona0197]

I'm still sticking to my guns here. Personal prophecy is of God I believe.

Anything else is of the devil such as psychics and fortune tellers.

[NeuroTypical]

Seers are not called but is a talent from on high. Many have this gift.

What is your source for this claim? I thought the first presidency and Qof12 were called as prophets, SEERS, and revelators...

LM

[skalenfehl]

I'm still sticking to my guns here. Personal prophecy is of God I believe.

Anything else is of the devil such as psychics and fortune tellers.

I agree with this.

[kona0197]

Add UFOs to the list of evil things...

[Hemidakota]

What is your source for this claim? I thought the first presidency and Qof12 were called as prophets, SEERS, and revelators...

LM

I understand your point and you are correct. Both prophet and those of the apostleship, have the keys as 'Seers.' As there is only one prophet called in receiving divine enlightenment for the church.

This is a special gift, that is given to few, based on this individual salvation, edification, and are obedient and faithful. Let me offer a question here, in the BOM, was Mosiah set apart as a Seer? Or the young boy Joseph Smith, was he divinely set apart as a seer prior to translating the plates? Just an interesting observation.

To illustrate what is a seer, a quote from an October [PM], 1961 General Conference address by Elder Theodore Moyle Burton:

Now to what can a man turn? In what can he place reliance? In whom can we put our confidence, our trust? Now remember, Ammon said a seer is greater than a prophet. Before he made this statement he had said ". . . I can assuredly tell thee, O king, of a man that can translate the records; for he has wherewith that he can look, and translate all records that are of ancient date; and it is a gift from God. And the things are called interpreters, and no man can look in them except he be commanded, lest he should look for that he ought not and he should perish. And whosoever is commanded to look in them, the same is called seer." (Ibid., 8:13.)

Thus one can trust a seer because a seer may see the heavens open. He may see the great vision of God working in all his majesty. He may see the fulness of truth as it is revealed to him by God who makes no mistakes. The evidence is clear, therefore, and the interpretation is clear. The seer can bear personal testimony, not based on books, not based on scholarship, not based on tradition, but based on the evidence of things that God himself can reveal to him in an actual experience with Deity. He may receive a revelation from God by actually seeing and hearing and being instructed in the real truth.

A seer then is one who may see God, who may talk with God, who may receive persona, instruction from God. Our prophet is a seer and a revelator. I do not know who originally taught the doctrine. I was told once that it was taught by President Heber J. Grant, but I was taught this doctrine by Elder Marion G. Romney, who told me that the Lord will never let his prophet the seer, lead his people astray. Men in all ranks on this earth and in the Church have fallen from grace, but the Lord will never permit the great prophet, our seer, and revelator, to fall or to lead the people astray. Before this could happen God must of necessity remove that man from the earth.

A member may have this gift, for his/her own edification or those assigned [church calling, family members - children]. Does that make sense?

[Hemidakota]

Add UFOs to the list of evil things...

To what aspect? Don't be to hasting here.

[VisionOfLehi]

On the point of being a prophet, I am one. But, I am not the Lord's Chosen Prophet to lead His Church. Nonetheless, I have the Spirit of Prophecy.

Rev. 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

While we're on this sort of topic, do any of you have any... discernment-type gifts? Not the "take a spirit's hand" kind...

I have a rather un-refined-at-the-moment (to me, anyway) "knack" for seeing the traps of Satan and letting others know about them.

[Gillebre]

I didn't bother to read pages 3, and 4. Sorry...lazy.

I will venture to speak for a moment on this topic.

The ability to see things...past, present, and even future does in fact exist. Not solely with the Lord's Prophets, as some might say. What does exist only with His appointed Prophets is the authority and ability to received revelation...prophecy, and anything else, for the entire Church as a whole, and the Earth.

One can have all the revelation and personal sight of things perhaps to come...but remember only His servants with the proper authority can do so for His church, and for the things they preside over.

Moving on,

This is normally a topic I tread quite lightly on, for the special nature of the things of God that our Father has given to those His children who are obedient, in furthering the work and nurturing their testimony. However, in this thread I will so speak a few things - I feel prompted to do so.

To answer VisionofLehi, yes, I have the gift of discernment. I have spent a long time working on refining my ability to discern. btw guys...perhaps look up the word discern, and remember it's meanings as you read this thread. :) I have seen things of which I will not speak in such a public arena as this, but suffice it me to say I have been able to grow in my own ability to discern, that I may better serve Him and do what is right.

I will relate an experience I had just this last Sunday. It is close to me...but the Spirit would suffer me this that I may share with you my brothers and sisters. :)

I was on my way home from mission preparation class. I was listening to my awesome collection of LDS music (hymns, etc...). I came across a song that reminded me of my best friend, who in his own life struggles with somethings. I had made several efforts over recent weeks to make it known to him how much I really care...how close he is to me, spiritually, and how much I can honestly say I love this one to death. And it occurred to me that I should send a message in writing home with his brother the next morning. As I was pondering in what words I would express just how much my closest friend he really is...I saw. I felt. I saw the future...10 hours later, when he would read my words. I saw him...his body and spirit, and I saw him weep when he'd read my words. I never saw him that next day, but I know beyond any doubt in the world I was seeing the near future, and I couldn't help but cry silently to myself in the car ride back home.

Such experiences are...very precious things. If you ever have spiritual experiences related to the gifts given you, please cherish them and above ALL, thank your Father in Heaven for all of it. Every moment.

[Hemidakota]

Wisdom of Solomon? humor...sorry

Power of discernment is part of the priesthood. Is this a question or seeking advise?

[Gillebre]

powers of discernment are not solely of the Priesthood. the spiritual gift of discernment. it may come with a Priesthood calling such as Bishop or Stake President (interviews, etc...), but I am no Bishop and can testify to the reality of such a gift. :)

[Hemidakota]

We are entitled to the 'Gift of Discernment' when receiving the endowment of the Holy Ghost if 'worthy.'

[VisionOfLehi]

We are entitled to the 'Gift of Discernment' when receiving the endowment of the Holy Ghost if 'worthy.'

Which Scripture is this, by the way? Which "Gift of Discernment" is this?

Anyway, reading D&C 46, it seems to say there's a lot of Gifts of the Spirit, but not everyone will have them. Am I reading this correctly?

But yeah, it's cool that we have these gifts... I like hearing about them... Though some people seem to go off the deep end.

[skalenfehl]

People are blessed with different gifts and talents. It is something they should be humble in and magnify to benefit their fellow man and glorify the Lord.

[Still_Small_Voice]

I understand your point and you are correct. Both prophet and those of the apostleship, have the keys as 'Seers.' As there is only one prophet called in receiving divine enlightenment for the church.

We can cross reference this teaching with Wilford Woodruff's Holy Spirit inspired teachings:

The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray. It is not in the programme. It is not in the mind of God. If I were to attempt that, the Lord would remove me out of my place, and so He will any other man who attempts to lead the children of men astray from the oracles of God and from their duty. (Sixty-first Semiannual General Conference of the Church, Monday, October 6, 1890, Salt Lake City, Utah. Reported in Deseret Evening News, October 11, 1890, p. 2.)

[NeuroTypical]

What is your source for this claim?

This is a special gift, that is given to few, based on this individual salvation, edification, and are obedient and faithful. Let me offer a question here, in the BOM, was Mosiah set apart as a Seer? Or the young boy Joseph Smith, was he divinely set apart as a seer prior to translating the plates? Just an interesting observation.

That's not a source - that's an assertion followed by some questions. What's your source?

To illustrate what is a seer, a quote from an October [PM], 1961 General Conference address by Elder Theodore Moyle Burton

That's a description of a seer - nothing about your claims that "Seers are not called but is a talent from on high" and "many have this gift".

Again - what is your source? If it is your own opinion or interpretation, please identify it as such. If there's an authoritative source, let's hear it.

LM