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  2. 2 hour church ? why so happy

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    7 hours ago, estowife said:

    So I am born & raised LDS & continue to be active, married in the temple (still married though not happily) & raise a family in the gospel. I always felt that religion is not my thing, not remotely interested in it, don't enjoy it & If I wasn't born into it, certainly wouldn't go looking for it...

    So naturally to me the 2 hour church announcement is great news, sitting through 3 hours (or more) of church on a sunday has to be the worst 3 hours of my week!

    But I am curious.... every response I have seen on various social media platforms have all been similarly pleased, excited & celebratory, nobody is disappointed to be losing an hour of church.

    So I would like to know why everybody is so pleased, did people secretly hate 3 hours of church, was it just as horrendous for everybody else as it felt for me,

    just curious as to why everyone is high five-ing & celebrating etc, what are your reasons

    Thanks

    Dear estowife...... I'm sorry your not happy, but I am happy you say your raising your family in the gospel. Sounds like Satan is trying really hard to destroy your testimony little, by little. But you still have enough truth inside to make sure you raise your family in the gospel.

     As one mom to another- build on that bit of testimony you have left, even if you are not remotely interested in religion....... try.  

    Satan is so strong these days, doing what he can to destroy marriages, families and individuals.

     Just try estowife ..... please just try. You never know how it can help.

  4. Abraham Was Not a Prophet. So Why Abraham?

    in LDS Gospel Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Lindy
    Needed to add something

    On 10/2/2018 at 2:21 PM, Traveler said:

    Okay - I will do a rare thing for me on this forum - I will mix speculations with my studies.   by @wenglundbraham returned home and there is an old story about Abraham and idols.  It was said that Abraham disapproved of his father's idol worship.  I believe it included Baal but that is another speculation.  It is said that Abraham broke all his father's idols, except for one which was the smallest and most insignificant idle.  When Abraham's father returned Abraham told his father that the idols had a big disagreement and the remaining idle destroyed all the others.   Abraham's father was so upset that he set up Abraham to be sacrificed to several idols at the hand of an Egyptian priest - We can read the results of that sacrifice in the Book of Abraham.

    I believe Abraham had solid and trusting relationship with Melchizedek.  But I want to point out something.  Even the Prophet and president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints pays tithing to his bishop as well as being interviewed for a temple recommend - each holding the necessary keys to their calling.   But what I want to point out is that Abraham was a direct decedent of Shem and a rightful heir to the patriarchal priesthood - and was the oldest worthy direct heir descendant in that patriarchal order - thus Abraham was the prophet heir of Melchizedek and he assumed his prophetic role to the world when Melchizedek was taken up into heaven with Salem.

     

    The Traveler

    I remember giving a Primary lesson many years ago, and did a little more research into and found the similitude of Abraham did to Isaac to what the father of Abraham did to Abraham. I found it incredibly interesting, but could not find the reasoning behind it.

    Thank you Traveler for that information.... it cleared things up for me, and I feel more in the know

  7. How important is what we did in high school? Kavanaugh accusation

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    4 hours ago, Vort said:

    Don't be naive. If the senators had asked Ford any real questions, they would have been crucified by the press for treating a poor victim of sexual assault so badly. Everyone knows this. That is why the senators got a FEMALE prosecutor to question her -- and even the prosecutor used kid gloves in dealing with her.

    To say that the senators should have grilled Ford more closely is either to betray astounding naivete or willful blindness. The senators were hoping the FBI could have asked Ford the questions they that (the senators) wanted to ask, but dared not do so in the context of political theater.

    Dear Vort- I was really talking about the Democratic senators not asking her any relevant questions about her allegations. They made statements instead of questions of relevance. I will have to fix that confusion of which party did what.

     You had a good post though- I agree with everything you said.... except the part of me being naive.

  8. How important is what we did in high school? Kavanaugh accusation

    in Current Events

    Posted · Edited by Lindy
    To ease confusion

    I have something that has just been bothering me to no end...... and that is so many Democratic senators barking about Mrs Ford not having the FBI asking her more questions. 

    Wasn't that what the hearing was for..... asking questions for Blasey- Ford to answer? 

    The left side of the committee chose to use their question time to grandstand against Judge Kavanaugh, President Trump, and the Republican Party; instead of asking pertinent questions to Blasey-Ford.

    So many one-sided political statements made instead of asking the questions they (the Democratic senators) are now whining about not being answered.

     It actually makes me mad to even watch the news anymore... I can't email my thoughts to the offending senators because I don't live in their states....... and it just angers me that they are either that clueless, ignorant, or mean-spirited. 

     Thank you for letting me rant.

  9. Important Words To Help Us Prepare

    in Current Events

    Posted · Edited by Lindy
    Needed to add something

    Several Sundays ago, we were asked to review the Conference talks from last April to help us prepare for the upcoming Conference. I was in the middle of reading a talk from President Nelson when this jumped out and bit me...... President Nelson said  "We live in a world that is complex and increasingly contentious. The constant availability of social media and a 24-hour news cycle bombard us with relentless messages. If we are to have any hope of sifting through the myriad of voices and the philosophies of men that attack truth, we must learn to receive revelation."

    I know I have heard these things over and over before, but these words just seemed to jump off the page......"increasingly contentious", "bombard us with relentless messages",  "philosophies of men that attack truth,"  it just hits home a big more this time.

    And to jump into another paragraph...... "But in coming days, it will not be possible to survive spiritually without the guiding, directing, comforting, and constant influence of the Holy Ghost."

    We have been told for years that things are going to become worse and worse before the Second Coming, and we need to build and sustain our faith.... and here is our prophet giving us a dire warning that it will not be possible to survive spiritually unless we are really tight with the Holy Ghost and learn to listen and obey.

    With all the lies, contention, discontent, and venomous hatred we are subject to in our nation alone......  those words from our Prophet Nelson" we must learn to receive revelation." 

    Are there more important words to prepare us?

     

  12. Military Obligation

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    4 hours ago, Traveler said:

    I am not sure that those that have this kind of opinion - realize that citizens should not be separate from military personal - that historically if the military is separated from the citizens it is likely and  probable that those in the military will determine they should run the country - and such societies have no means (power) to stop them.  It is often the case that dictatorships separate citizens from a military obligation.  I believe our forefathers believed in a citizen army where every citizen has both a right and obligation to not just have a say in what the military does but to also serve in the military.  In other words that free citizens have a military obligation.  In essence if citizens do not feel obligated that such a society will not and even should not remain free.

    Trav, I've tried to understand what all you are saying, but it sounds more like a dictatorship demanding a military obligation in order to vote in a free democracy? 

    Doesn't sound very free to me.

  16. New security measures for church events

    in LDS Gospel Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Lindy
    Need to change to name implied

    2 hours ago, anatess2 said:

    This is quite the insult.

    You think that every person who carries a gun have no problem shooting innocent people.  Really?  You don't think they worry about killing innocent people?  Like, that doesn't bother them at all????

    I have a 15-year-old who can shoot a one-inch cluster at 15 yards with his .22 pistol.  He got on the rifle team, saw the range they were shooting at (a concrete wall behind the target) and refused to shoot until they get a better range.  He told the instructor that at 15 yards, that wall can cause a ricochet if you miss the target and you'll have unpredictable stray bullets.  That's a 15-year-old who, in Florida, is not trusted to carry a weapon.  His father and grandfather both have concealed carry permits.  The grandfather was a bishop a while back and carried everywhere including church.  My husband leaves his firearm in the car.

    Those who are afraid of gun carriers have a low opinion of everyday people.  Your daughter shouldn't have a gun.

    anatess2-

    In no way was I going for an insult. Just saying that my daughter is so inept and clueless when it comes to guns- that it is a scary thought to imagine her with a gun in a crowded area. And BTW she's in her mid 30's and should have good common sense.... but she doesn't.

    Her + gun + crowded area with a shooter= disaster

     Only meant that Grunt would take (his?) words back about untrained gun carriers if (he?) ever had to experience her with gun in crowd. The thought terrifies me.

    "Those who are afraid of gun carriers have a low opinion of everyday people.  Your daughter shouldn't have a gun"

    Oh dear- I'm sorry if you misunderstood me...... I'm not afraid of those who carry..... I grew up around guns, I shoot guns myself with no problems (even hit targets)...... I just don't think that untrained people need to carry any weapon in a crowded area.

    P.S. your son has more common sense than his instructor, and yes my daughter should not have a gun (unless until she gets training..... and even then I'm not too sure)

  19. New security measures for church events

    in LDS Gospel Discussion

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    13 hours ago, Fether said:

    As I agree with your fear... I can’t think of a single story where this is the case. Rather I hear stories of assailant having free reign over powerless victims or an armed citizen stopping the shooter from doing more damage than he/she already had done.

    Can you find a single story where an armed citizen acchidentally shot a civilian while going after a gun man?

    I did a quick research and found this one....

    ...."Fifteen minutes into the movie, Gallion’s gun somehow went off, police say, striking the woman sitting in front of him.....".   https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/01/26/man-who-feared-mass-shootings-brings-gun-to-movie-theater-accidentally-shoots-woman/?utm_term=.550f027dfbac

    And I found this one......

    "People with firearms training performed better than those without it.......''

    "The Washington Post noted the latter “didn't take cover. They didn't attempt to issue commands to their assailants. Their trigger fingers were either too itchy – they shot innocent bystanders or unarmed people, or not itchy enough – they didn't shoot armed assailants until they were already being shot at.”   https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/0728/Research-Untrained-gun-users-prove-ineffective-at-self-defense

    I am not protesting against the Second Amendment- I'm a firm supporter. I only think that putting an untrained armed person in a crowded area is an accident looking for a place to happen.  

    It's just my opinion.

  20. New security measures for church events

    in LDS Gospel Discussion

    Posted

    14 hours ago, Fether said:

    My only fear is to be in a situation where only the criminals have the guns. In the conference center this isn’t a huge issue as there are security guards, but I would much rather have 3 untrained trained armed citizens in a room with an assailant than only an assailant.

    I understand what you said Fether, but I've seen untrained armed people and that scared me to death.

    I would probably yell 'NOOO!' at some untrained fool with a gun in a crowded place. An untrained citizen would probably shoot innocent people by mistake and not even get close to the gunman.

     

  21. What’s the last movie you watched?

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    On 8/4/2018 at 5:29 AM, Sunday21 said:

    Do you recommend for adults?

    This was for Disney's "Christopher Robin" ..... and it was actually the last big screen movie I saw.

    I would recommend it for any adult that liked Pooh and friends..... I loved the movie.

    Hubby was a bit miffed that "House at Pooh Corner" wasn't played, but that didn't bother me.

    Other than Pooh, I sat and watched Mission Impossible 1, 2 an 3 on DVD.