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I have not been on Prometrium but I was on Progesterone in oil which was administered to me through an intermuscular shot every day. Currently I am in my 10th week, quickly approaching my 11th and my fertility doctor took me off the Progesterone at the beginning of week 10. I should be able to tell you if it was successful in a few weeks once I reach my 2nd trimester. This is my first pregnancy as well and as we had to go through IVF to get pregnant I am more than a little nervous about the whole thing ending in a miscarrage. I wish you the best of luck with your pregnancy and hope that the medicine works for you.

My husband and I have fought for ten years about baby names, this year we really bore down (yes pam that is an intended pun :) ) and finally decided on some names. We had already decided on boy names as we wanted to go with something family oriented, but the girl names were more difficult, I hated all the names he liked and he hated all the names I liked. So now we have the following lined up for names: Boys: David Isaac Isaac Alonzo Alonzo David We wanted the boys to have a connection to each other, as I think a connection between siblings often makes them closer, so we decided to have their middle names be the same as the brother who would be after them (if we end up having more than three boys then we are in trouble but as we only have three IVF attempts I don't think we have to worry). All the names are family names. Girls: Evalisa Faye (or Fae) Aria Juul (or Jewel) And as we will have already used Fae for Evalisa's middle name we probably would not go with our third pick which would be Faeryn so instead we would go with Sariah. For our process of deciding my husband had me go to a name website and go through all of the names and choose my favorites then he went through the names I had picked and scored them one to ten, ten being the highest score. Then I went through the names and scored them, the names with the lowest scores were removed from the list until we had about 7 top names, then we discussed those names until we narrowed them down to about 5 then over more discussion we have narrowed them down to our two top favorites with two others remaining. However if left to myself I would probably use the following names for girls: Andromeda Briannon Eva Fae or Faeryn Isolde Julaire Lorelei Rhiannon Sabriel Shallesh Moira

I do have a question for the OP, are you doing a research project? Researching way in advance? Or are all these questions about labor, diapers and so forth in preparation for something up coming? Your profile says you are 16 and from previous posts you seem like a very upstanding young woman. I am a little confused with all the baby questions as it seems something more reasonable coming from a pregnant woman like me than from a 16 year old girl who probably won't be really having to deal with these issues for another few years. That is if you get married at 18 or 19 and get pregnant right off the bat having your first kid by 19 or 20.

I would like to second what both posters have said so far. I agree that you need to get to a marriage counselor, it sounds like you two really need to do some serious work on communication skills and a marriage counselor will help with that. In my own marriage I have found times where I feel like my husband is acting like a child, I have tried to find ways around this. There is often a way around any stubborn person you just have to find the right direction to approach them from. The issue of arguing all the time could impact your fertility issues because stress can have a big impact on getting pregnant and dealing with all the rigmarole that fertility treatments bring only adds to the stress levels that are already in your life. (My husband and I have also gone through fertility treatments so I know where you are coming from) As the other posters have mentioned find ways to diffuse the arguments and get to a marriage counselor. And remember, above all this is not your fault, as ryanh said when two people fight it is really both people’s fault, now you just need to figure out how to fix it together.

I think sustaining the priesthood is an important thing, but I also think that priesthood members are men and as men can make recommendations based on faulty judgement. As an example: When I was in college I had a Bishop who claimed to receive personal revalation for every member of his ward. My roommates would go to him on a weekly basis to have their "future's told". When I was dating my husband (boyfriend at that time) I went to the bishop because my roommates had gone to him worried that I was moving too quickly with my boyfriend (we were talking about marriage). The bishop told me that if I married my husband that I would be miserable for the rest of my life, my husband would have many female friends and he would cheat often on me. He told me that all my boyfriend was, was a salesman and that he was selling me a line about wanting to get married. I ended up breaking up with my boyfriend and later that year getting back together with him. We ended up getting married and nothing that my bishop had told me ever happened. I have been happy with my husband, he has never had any female friends during our marriage and he has been awesome. Not long after that semester that bishop was excommunicated from the church, thereafter he created his own religion where he has set himself up as the prophet of that church. This is an extreme example, but it just shows that not always are bishops right. We do need to sustain them and support them, but we also need to think on our own and make choices base off our own promptings from the spirit. My advice would be to pray about the matter, ask for peace and ask for inspiration on how to deal with the matter. Then talk to the bishop based on the promptings that you recieve.

I ask myself that same question for most of the topics brought up in the LDS Gospel Discussion board. Pure speculation seems to a hobby for many people.

What LM said is pretty important. What is your intended audience? If you are planning on gearing it toward LDS then your market will be pretty small. But just because you are LDS doesn't mean you have to market it to LDS.

I would suppose that those who have already been resurected are probably in spirit prison serving as missionaries. I know Christ set something up in that regard when he visited there after he died.

I take John 5:19 "Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. " to mean that Jesus does what he has seen the Father do. This could mean that he is following the same pattern that God took. In truth we won't know until probably after the second coming.

When you say, "the highest ranking" what exactly do you mean? Do you mean that he has reached level 80? Do you mean that he has gotten all the L33T gear he could? Does it mean that he is ranked as top in battlegrounds? WoW is sort of difficult to reach the highest ranking on as there are so many different ways you can do that. Just wondering as a former WoW addict who still has withdrawl symptoms.

I try to avoid supplements with green tea in them, but that is mostly because my mom and I have similar medicine sensitivities and she has had bad reactions from supplements with green tea in them. Currently I am pregnant and dealing with morning sickness and found a gum that helps combat the nausea, when I discovered that it had green tea in it I stopped using it. I suppose it really depends on how your body reacts to different things. When it comes to the WoW I think it gets a bit difficult when it comes to medicines and supplements.

Yes! I am sad that they don't have it in the green hymnals.

My husband and I have had problems in the past with video games. When we first got married I wished he wouldn't play video games so much. Finally I got fed up and figured, "If you can't beat them then join them." So I began to play games as well. Often we didn't get things done that we needed to. It finally took something where we both needed to spend more time on other things (moving, thus getting our house ready) that caused us to give up games for a good while. We are currently coming up on a year with no games in our lives and things are pretty good. So I would say find something to replace the game for him. But it has to be something he wants to do, otherwise it will be a battle to get him away from the game.

I would love to see them add "Come Thou Fount" back into the hymn book. I have a copy of the old brown hymnal and it has "Come Thou Fount" in it and I love it!!

I know there are some good LDS musicians that put out some modern songs. However they are often not well known because you don't hear them on the radio. For whatever reason Christian Rock stations don't tend to play Mormon artists so they don't gain as much publicity as other Christian artists. Also many Christian artists are worship leaders, and they write many of their songs for the purpose of using them during their worship services. As Skippy mentioned our worship services are more for feeling the Spirit and less for entertainment value. Because of that we don't have large buildings that are set up for a rock band and concerts. And as a result our musical artists are not as well known as other Christian artists. My advice would be to check out Deseret Books, or some of the other LDS bookstores and check out their music section. If you see some artists who look interesting then see if you can find them on iTunes so you can preview their music and if you like it then buy it.

I agree with Funky, go to your Stake President, the Bishop should be helping you whether or not you are paying tithing.

They tuck in pretty well for me, I don't have as long of a torso as my sister does, but I think they tuck in ok for her as well.

My sister rolls the tops of her garment bottoms, her bottoms come up super far on her torso and so to fix that she rolls the top down until it hits her natural waist. I personally wear the chemise top as well because it is more like a tee shirt. I also did not like the tops that had the "pockets" for your chest. I never fit them very well either. In general I wear the carinessa bottoms because I like the way they fit and they stretch nicely. When I first started wearing garments it was weird as well. They feel weird and they fit weird and you have to experiment with the different types of fabric and size and such to find one that works well for you. But after awhile of wearing them (as in a few years) they become more normal. What boggles my mind though is that my brother likes one piece garments. As I girl I can't even imagine how awkward that would be.

It is true that the man out making a living through a job and a woman at home tending the house and the children seems natural. Our historic culture was this way for years and years. But it was necessary for it to be this way. A man had to be out in the field or doing some sort of craftsman job all day long because that kind of work required him to do so. Conversely a woman had to be at home working on the home and making the food and so forth because otherwise it would not get done and people would go hungry. It had to be done. However, society has changed so much from what it used to be that now men do not have to be gone all day to provide for their families and women do not need to spend all day on housework. Because of this societal roles are changing, men can help with housework because they have time, and women can bring in income because the option is provided. This being said, I do think that women bring something to the nurturing and teaching of children that somehow goes beyond what the child would get from just the father alone, but I also do think that the family needs to be complete for that to happen. There needs to be a father and a mother in the house for a child to have a well rounded home life. In situations where this is not possible I think the parents or parent does as best as they can given the circumstances. What I am saying with the co-dependence comments is basically this: In Mormon society we tend to breed a co-dependent environment in families. And it has nothing to do with the counsel we have been given by our prophets, instead it has everything to do with social norms we as a Mormon society have created. A wife is expected to act and behave in a certain way otherwise they are obviously not a good wife and mother. She must keep a clean house, she must have neat and obedient children, her children must be extremely well versed in the Gospel and only have LDS friends, and above all she must be willing to sacrifice everything for her family. This often leads to women who feel that they must give up every shred of happiness so that their family can be happy. They go without things THEY need because they think it sets an example. And they often allow their husband to walk all over them because they feel that it is his right and obligation as a priesthood holder. A few examples: When a friend of mine was a teenager she approached her mom about getting a new bra because she was outgrowing the one she had. And her mom made a offhand comment of "It has been 7 years since I got a new bra." This is an example of taking being the "perfect wife" too far. If you need something get it, don't keep yourself from getting it because it makes you look like you sacrifice for your family. Another example, a friend of mine grew up in a co-dependent family, yet she seemed to be a pretty strong woman. When she got married she married a man who to tell the truth was rather reserved and would have gladly let her take the lead on things, but instead she badgered him into placing his authority over her by setting rules for her. So he set a curfew and a some other rules that between husband and wife were just idiotic. It was frightening to see her try to turn her marriage into the same sort of family she grew up in. And it was all so that she would feel that she was living up to the societal norm of being the "perfect wife". What I guess I am trying to say here is this. Taking on the time honored roles of man in the work field and woman in the home is absolutely fine as long as we keep in mind not to let ourselves become influenced by what society expects of us. If our husband helps out in the home, that is fine. If he does all the cooking, that is fine. If he cleans the house, that is fine. If the woman takes on some of the more manly roles, like doing the yard work, or fixing the car, that is absolutely fine just so long as we are happy in our marriages and our children are not being neglected.

Read my post again, I never said extreme feminism helps marriages, I said that feminism, NOT EXTREME feminism, can help in marriages. When we look at the role that the church says a Mother should have we find this: "I continue to emphasize the importance of mothers staying home to nurture, care for, and train their children in the principles of righteousness." It does go on to say that women should stay home with the children and preferably not work unless it is absolutely nessisary. And that I agree with. I think there are things that happen when a mother is away from the house that would not happen if she was there. However if a mother does have to go out into the work force for whatever reason and she happens to make more money than her husband I don't think it should be a big deal. I do agree with you that a man who worked a piddly job with no pay just because he knew his wife would take care of him is diminished in my opinion. A man who sits on his butt and sends his wife out to work while he plays with toys is not much of a man. What I am saying though is that it never says anywhere in what the prophets have advised us that women need to be the primary cleaners of the home. It never says that they have to fit exactly into the 1960s idea of the perfect little housewife. It says that women are to nurture, care for and train their children in the principles of righteousness. Nothing there about housework. As far as I see it if the husband is willing to help with the housework then great! Each family is different, every family dynamic is different. But what is see is that a fear of feminism tends to breed co-dependance in our church. As a person who grew up in a co-dependant family I will say that it makes the woman into a lesser being. It turns the co-dependant person (usually the mother) into a servant for the entire family. And that is a sad thing to see, and it often leads to negelect of other things. When I say feminism I am speaking of strong women, women who are willing to stand up and say, "This is who I am, deal with it." Women who because of the way they view themselves get equal respect. Equality in my mind really comes down to respect. If I am making myself into a lesser being by my actions in my home then I am doing myself no favors what so ever. Respect has nothing to do with whether we work inside or outside of the home, it has nothing to do with whether or not we raise our children as we should, it has everything to do with how we see ourselves and the self esteem we have for ourselves. It has taken me a long time to build my self esteem up to where it is now, I was all set to create the same type of co-dependant household that I grew up in, and it was my husband who changed it all for me. His respect for me as a woman was what helped me to become as strong as I am today. If only every man was like that.

What you are trying to say is that by pushing men into more effeminate roles the women are in effect emasculating their men. Then the women wonder why the men are so effeminate and wish for a more masculine man. I personally have to disagree with this. Money does not make the man. Yes it does cause women to feel more secure in a relationship, but it does not make the man more masculine. I heard a long time ago about a study done on what women and men find attractive in the opposite gender. For men the curvy look on a woman is often very attractive, good birthing hips and such. Something about how human males look at women cause them to subconsciously be attracted to women who look like they would be a good (to be blunt) breeder. Conversely women were attracted to men who dressed nicely, seemed to have money and seemed as if they could provide well for the woman. Subconsciously they were attracted to men who would be good providers for themselves and any babies that came along. It is all down to survival instincts. That said, a man who makes more than another man is not suddenly more masculine, money does not add extra testosterone to a man's system. It just makes him look like a better provider. Personally I would have no problem if I made more than my husband, I would not think less of him either. I have a degree, he does not, we work the same level of job at the same company but I get paid less than he does. That I see as more of an issue than how much we both bring home. When it comes down to it feminisim does not ruin marriages, people do. Feminism (and I am not talking extreme bra burning feminisim) can actually help marriages. Fear of feminisim often causes women to end up in a relationship where they are unhappy and they live that way for years because they thing that is how they "should" be. It is a bunch of hogwash, a couple in a marriage should find ways to make each other happy, and if that means that the woman has a job (because for whatever reason it makes her happy) then so be it. If the marriage is happier and healthier because of it then I see no harm in a woman making more than her husband.

Maybe you should put some distance between the two of you. If you aren't around each other you can't very well do things you shouldn't. Or if that is a non option then only be around each other when you can be around others, chances are you aren't going to mess up with other people around. It all comes down to not letting yourself be alone together. Both of you need to get to a good point morally, through repentance and then you need to keep yourselves there. Best way to do that is not to give yourself the opportunity to mess up.

I have to admit that I have more than just a bit lurking in me, bookstores smell amazing! And yes leather bound books are even better. Maybe that is why leather book binding is one of my hobbies.

Speaking from experience, he could be excommunicated, it really depends on whether or not he wants to repent for what he is doing. Losing his children would only happen if he and his wife divorced and she got full custody of the children, even then he would probably have visiting rights. The church would not do anything that would cause him to lose his children. Ruin his life? Possibly, but then again the possibility of ruining your life is a choice a person makes when they choose to enter into an affair. It really would depend on how he decided to move forward from the affair. I had an affair, and my husband and I worked it out and are still together today. But then again I wanted to repent and I wanted to leave the affair behind. If he has given up on his family and would rather have this other woman then that is his choice and it may end up ruining his family. It really depends on how he and his wife choose to deal with the affair. People are very different from each other, one person may be willing to forgive and another may not. If he is unhappy with his marriage then that is something he should work out between himself and his wife. Usually when an affair happens there are problems on both sides that need to be worked on. The big difference is he made the choice to sin rather than work things out with his wife, thus he will have to repent for that sin at some point, whether in this life or the next. If he wants to be with this other woman then so be it. It will ruin his marriage and very probaby his family as well. But it is a choice he will have to make. Does the church approve of it? Of course not. And choosing the other woman would probably result in his excommunication. But it all comes down to his choices and how much repenting he chooses to do.

If you want more margin space I would suggest getting non-indexed scriptures. It might take longer to find where you want to go in the scriptures but you do have more margin space.