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To me it is clear that Brigham Young was referring to ancestry and not disobedience in general. I would be willing to accept it was about disobedience if it was not just a certain ancestry that was denied the Priesthood. Yes, they were denied the Priesthood because of Cains disobedience, not just because of disobedience in general. If the "seed of cane" refers to anybody who is disobedient it would have been some white, Latino and black people that were denied the Priesthood. As far as mortal lineage playing a role, I have read and heard from Prophets that if we are righteous our posterity will be blessed. It is essentially covenants made to our forefathers that need to be kept, God keeps his covenants. Off course most of the covenants made depend upon personal worthiness of the posterity. It is also interesting to think about lineage, knowing what we know about genetics. Correct me where I am wrong please...

If done tactfully I think it could be effective. I would consider it if one of my daughters stole something.

Everybody murmurs once in awhile, we can see that even great prophets job and lehi both did. Even Jesus did when he asked the father why he must drink of this cup. In my opinion it becomes a problem when it becomes a part of your character.

1.That is interesting that it was about lineage rather then color of skin. 2. My heart ached when it said blacks were asked to give up their priesthood. 3. Any worthy African-american that was or is in the church will receive a higher reward in eternity then me(white), God is just. I don't think I would be able to withstand this trial.

After this post I think I need to pray to be more humble but I am terrified now.

I have never had an assignment... I really want to give a talk though! As far as calling Deacons Adviser(sound right?).

Man... I am never going to pray to help me have patience again.

He was not banned during the first post. Once somebody is banned it shows up in that spot for all hist posts.

Is a Bishop suppose to layout a course to the Temple? I can take the Sacrament, but I want to know when I can enter the Temple. Two weeks ago he said in a month now he says he don't know. He tells me it is by what he feels. Is it what he feels or what God feels? I am perplexed...

That is just it, what I said in the OP was not to make the church more 'palatable.' The Church is already a movement, we are trying to change the world. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints wants everybody to come unto Christ. A lot of educated non members also view us as part of the 'Mormon Movement.' The Church should market that, it is what would make this generation interested in The Church.

It is not The Church's fault that we are so far apart from the world. Last conference the Prophet eluded to the fact that the world is getting farther apart from us. The Church's standards have always been the same, the world is causing the chasm. The only things that set us apart are the Garments and Temple. When The Church was 'created' the world was not even suppose to know about them.

I think his point was that it is not our job to weed out anybody, that is Christ's job during the Second Coming.

I guess hip was the wrong word, maybe honorable is a better word. As Latter-day Saints we all know that it is honorable to be a Saint, or we should. I think if we "sold" that point, we would gain more converts. I also mean hip as in cool/different for the youth. We already "sell" that anyway, The Church establishes itself as the opposite of the World. As far as a movement goes, we are already a movement in my eyes. The movement is about getting people to God, not a temporary movement. The Church just needs to sell what were already doing. I am not proposing adding something completely new to The Church, just making it fit this generation(change wording). Use the following, Gods Movement, join the movement, be a part of something good and make a difference in this world. You would be surprised at how much interest that would generate in The Church. You make an interesting point about convert retention. However, I don't see a difference about gaining a convert that way or from the I'm a Mormon commercials, it is the same thing. In my mind, the problem with retention would not be worse, since this would attract youth. Also the commercials don't really gain converts they just generate interest in the church. I agree with you on the I'm a Mormon ad campaign, that was about making us look normal. That is why it is important to capitalize on that media attention(when Mormon is done running for Pres) and run another campaign behind it. Think of the I'm a Mormon campaign as an elias. The elias principle holds true in many facets of life, something needs to soften the ground.

I would pay.... 1. He was helping you 2. Don't know what financial situation he is in

I disagree, I think the actions of humans indicate that in order for there to be God, there must also be a Devil. If we were "perfect" humans and nothing bad happened then you would be correct.

President Packer and President Holland both said that the Devil is very real during October Conference.

I agree 100% with both of those statements.

After typing previous post, I went on facebook and seen the charity has responded to complaints. InvisibleChildren

It is clear that anything billed as a movement people join quickly, the youth that is. It is also clear the mormon.org advertising was successful. Why not advertise to get people to join Gods movement? It is pertinent that we continue to make being Mormon "hip." There are many youth looking where they will go. What does everyone think?

To me it sounds like all of you are saying, don't try to solve the problem, it is just too bad. That in my mind is a cop out. I wonder if those who oppose helping Africans, were in favor of the Iraq war, to help the Iraqis. By all of your accounts the problems in Central Africa is worse. The cost of helping in Africa will be far less then what it was in Iraq. It is also a proven fact that there are many atrocities happening in Central Africa. If you were able to accept the Iraq War, why not accept this? I don't think a full on war is the right solution. However, eliminating Kony and the LRA will go a long way. It is the fact that these war criminals in Africa are able to stay invisible that is causing so much strife. Once we make them visible and show that the USA will not tolerate that behavior, groups will be eliminated. The solution is sending in our military to train the armies that will cooperate. My whole thing is we should not let innocent people die because the situation is just too bad, that is cowardly. Imagine if the colonies did what all of you are proposing, we would not have this great country. I think anywhere we start, is better then starting no where. In addition, I think the best place to start is ICC's number one most wanted criminal. Empathy people empathy...

Your missing the point of the video; the video was put out to raise awareness about what Joseph Kony is doing. I don't plan to donate nor is the video really asking for that. Also the charity is not all about Uganda, Joseph Kony is not even in Uganda anymore. The Charity is about helping the Children of Africa.

The bottom line is that Kony is number one on the ICC most wanted list.

I did first see the video when you posted it on Facebook, good job.

Invisible Children | Kony2012 Has The Church donated to Uganda? The publicity for backing this would be amazing for The Church.

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