EarlJibbs

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  1. I happen to think that we short sheet our YW, YW recognition's are only mentioned in passing and are not given their due. It is not small thing to accomplish what your daughter has done.

     

    Then we wonder why they want the priesthood...hmmm

     

    An Eagle is not awarded by the church and from what we read in this thread the parents are the ones that make it big or small. The church doesn't parade any ordinance or achievement that is made around for everyone to see. They keep it reverent, at least from what I have witnessed. 

     

    If one feels that the YW recognition doesn't publicly display what your daughter has achieved then the parents can feel free to make a spectacle about it and invite the entire ward over after church. 

     

    My son is getting baptized in about a month. The service is planned by me as a parent. The church will announce it during Sunday meetings and that is it. The rest of helping my son know what a great thing he is doing and celebrating is up to me. 

     

    I have never had a church throw a party for anything priesthood related. 

     

    I am actually grateful for this thread however. With a daughter soon to go into YW I have some things to think about to make sure that our family recognizes her accomplishments.  

  2. We had to send packages to the Mission Office and then they would find a way to get package to where he was at.

     

    Same here. My parents would send me packages (Venezuela) and I would get them from the mission office. Since the mission office was in the main city and the most trustworthy (as far as that went) that was the best option. This way, if it made it to the country and mission office, it wouldn't be picked up by some rural local courier and stolen. The mission had a good "pouch" system set up, so it was only about a day or two delay from when they received it in the office to when it hit the Zone Leaders apartment. 

  3. When you first got married you probably didn't know he was going to actively fight against your most sacred beliefs. You probably wouldn't have married an anti to begin with so why consider it now? 

     

    I mean..having similar religious beliefs or actively supporting each other in their religious beliefs is kind of choosing a mate 101. 

     

    I think you should exercise the knowledge you have attained in this life.

     

    Just for the record, my brothers parents in-law were divorced (adultery) and remarried and extremely happy and content, so I agree that a man you have had children with should receive extra consideration when choosing a spouse....but the key is consideration...meaning use what you have learned in life to choose a loving supportive spouse.

     

     

    I like this. She has an inside scoop on him. The OP probably knows him better than anyone to make this decision. 

  4. I confess that....

     

    I love food whether it is tasty or bland. I know the difference, I just like a lot of different kinds. 

     

    I don't like to watch sad movies or scary ones. I don't like those emotions manipulated. 

     

    my tear ducts are either all the way open or all the way closed. I cannot cry softly. I also rarely cry. 

  5. I applied with the church about a year and a half ago for a job that I really thought I qualified greatly for. I didn't even get an interview. When I was applying, I noticed lessor grade paying positions within the same department, there were several of those positions open. This told me that that there were probably people that had been working there, maybe even for a while that would be applying for that same position. 

     

    My father worked for the church for a very long time and was at that time currently employed there. When I talked to him about applying for the position, the first thing he told me was that the church hires/promotes heavily from within and even though someone from outside qualified more than an internal candidate, as long as the internal qualified, they would most likely hire from within. 

     

    I am all for that concept, when I already work for a company :)   It was obviously not to my advantage. I don't know for sure, but I tend to steer towards that explanation. It could have been a fairly smooth and easy transition from my then current employment. Perhaps I also believe that to make myself feel better about the rejection. 

     

    That is my dealing. Not sure if that helps or not, but there it is. Good luck!

  6. Ha! The girl picture brought back memories Vort. I thought that was you for a long time. When you said it wasnt it shattered my world. People on the internet don't put their real photos up? 

     

    Your current one better be you. It made me want to put a picture of myself as my avatar. Mine is now real. 

  7. In time the whole community is lifted up and others will see it. They will recognize the benefit and the blessings and want to do the same. Again, this starts at the grass roots level or it does not start. The Lord works from the inside out, not the outside in. 

     

    I agree James. We hear this time and time again don't we?.

     

    The globalization of practically everything makes this even more difficult in my opinion. Your "community" seems to be ever larger these days. If we really focused on our own home and affairs and then those of our immediate neighborhood and community it would spread. Not only for temporal benefits, but spiritual as well. The idea of a community changed along with our agriculture culture. We can still have it, we just need to work harder. 

  8. No, you're missing nothing. I think somewhere between these ideas, that Christians ought not be rich while others starve, and that, for Christians, charitable giving, through taxation or otherwise, ought to be a pleasure, you will find my stance. 

     

    Best wishes, 2RM.

    Good ought to be a pleasure. Forcing good, is not. 

     

    There is nothing Christian to be taxed into helping the poor. If part of my income goes to supporting healthcare for the needy am I blessed for that? Maybe I have done a good thing, but I had no choice in doing said good thing. I also find no pleasure in it directly.

     

    I do however, find much pleasure in giving income away at my own will. Forced charitable work sounds like the adversaries plan. Making people do good is not of God. If that were the case, things would be a lot different. No poor, no hungry, no wars, and no choices and no personal progress and growth. You cannot force sacrifice. 

  9. I doubt an excommunicated member has their membership number revoked; and I strongly doubt their membership record is ever truly "gone"--there must be some means the Church has of tracking excommunicated members in case they later apply for re-baptism.

    I agree. How else are you to have all your blessings restored if you are re-baptized if no one has a record of it?

  10. So I just read every post in this thread. A few thoughts. Dear 2RM,

     

    1. I suppose that if you were to join a church there would be something that would draw you to it. If that thing for you 2RM is re-distribution of wealth, I can see how you wouldn't be drawn to us. Of all of the things that would draw someone to the Gospel, this by far seems to me to be the least. 

     

    2. You stated “Nevertheless, I am guessing that the reason you don't want the rich tapped for the wherewithall to prevent the poor from dieing of malnutrition, is because you all are already rich, or you all want to become rich. I might be wrong, but behind your arguments I perceive self-interest. Now, self-interest is not necessarily a bad thing. Under certain circumstances, it can be considered prudence, which is a Christian virtue.”  This statement is highly judgmental based off of what? 10 peoples opinions? Speaking of self interests, you definitely have yours. You have mentioned that you are poor. Therefore your self interest is to receive a re-distribution of the wealth or to become more wealthy than you are. Of course you feel others would benefit from that, but perhaps at least your initial drive to take money from the wealthy was not because of the poor children in Africa, rather than reflection on your own status. At what point do we stop taking personal liberties away from people. If it starts with wealth, where does it end?

     

    3. Have you visited an LDS chapel? Met with the missionaries? Read the Book of Mormon (they are free)? Other than what you read here have you vested any time into researching or praying about what it is we offer? Charity is a large part of who we are, it is deeply ingrained in our culture and our beliefs. But charity is not our mission statement, nor was it the Saviors. It seems to me that you are not looking for a religion at all, rather an organization that is set up specifically to solve world income problems by re-distribution of wealth. 

     

    I do wish you the best of luck in your endeavors 2RM. 

  11. I ignore 90% of invites I get from LinkedIn. Friends and family included. It's just not the place for me (being in the finance servicing world) to mingle with College professors, Electricians and Dentists, even though I think they are great people. I never feel bad about it. 

     

    Don't sweat it. 

  12. Is it important that he apologize? Sure. But I wouldn't let that stand in the way of you. Him not apologizing is not part of his anger or your larger issues you have with him. 

     

    He must get to the point where HE sees the issue with his anger and that HE wants to change it. There are different ways of speaking just as there are different ways of abusing someone. With our words, our body language, in writing... I politely disagree with some that just because you have not been struck physically (and other points) that this all seems a problem with you. Anger, yelling, aggressive motions, these are not acts of love. We all know that anger and yelling, losing control over ourselves are  not gifts of God. They have no place in a loving relationship or at home. You have a valid concern over it. 

     

    How serious this is, is stated in the Proclamation to the Family stating that “that individuals … who abuse spouse or offspring, … will one day stand accountable before God.”

     

     

     

     

    https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1998/04/agency-and-anger?lang=eng

     

    In the Joseph Smith Translation of Ephesians 4:26 [Eph. 4:26], Paul asks the question, “Can ye be angry, and not sin?” The Lord is very clear on this issue: “He that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another.

    “Behold, this is not my doctrine, to stir up the hearts of men with anger, one against another; but this is my doctrine, that such things should be done away” (3 Ne. 11:29–30).

    Anger is a yielding to Satan’s influence by surrendering our self-control. It is the thought-sin that leads to hostile feelings or behavior. It is the detonator of road rage on the freeway, flare-ups in the sports arena, and domestic violence in homes.

    Unchecked, anger can quickly trigger an explosion of cruel words and other forms of emotional abuse that can scar a tender heart. It is “that which cometh out of the mouth,” the Savior said; “this defileth a man” (Matt. 15:11). David O. McKay said,

     

    You have right to have a concern, but this is too complex for anyone here to give great advise in my opinion. He needs to see that he has a problem while you will need to do your best to help him with it. I agree that he will need to continue with counseling by your side. Best wishes.  

  13. Being repetitive doesn't necessarily mean it has any less significance to us. We shouldn't say the same prayer with no feeling, but just because you change some words up doesn't mean it is not in vain. You could say what sounds like a heart felt prayer and it may really mean nothing to you in your heart. I would state it not as repetitive being the issue, but rather lip service being the problem. 

     

    If you don't in deed feel grateful for the food or the blessings, then it is repetitive and in vain. Your heart is what decides, I think. I try to add in specific people to ask a blessing for in my prayers for food. That seem to mix it up and reminds us that we truly should be grateful for what we have. 

  14. When I moved out of Utah I grew the largest beard I have ever had. It wasnt long like various Prophets, but it was very thick and added a considerable bulk to my face. When I shaved it off for my wedding anniversary (a present to my wife as she was tired of kissing a scruff ball) I hid my face from my three year old, got her attention and then revealed my face. My smile probably looked more like I was hungry since she hadn't seen my like that in over a year. She cried and ran away. :) 

     

    When I was an Elders Quorum President the stake that I was in had a pretty strict shave policy for Elder Quorum Presidents and up. We were told that it was from the direction of the 12. When we went to a regional meeting with all other bishoprics, stake presidencies and elder quorum presidencies we were apparently the only stake that got the memo. I had never seen so many beards. When we asked about it later, the Stake President said that he was sure it was mandated, but looked into it further and received no such instruction. However, they stayed with the guideline from a stake presidency decision which was fine. It was just funny that all along we all thought we were following the Prophet. 

     

    My take: I think beards are fine. It's mustaches that need to be watched haha!