omegaseamaster75
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Thomas S Monson did not serve a mission, he chose military service. He enlisted, he was not drafted. Somehow he is now the leader of our church despite not having served as a youth.
Since we know nothing about this young man I think we should assume the best. That he is a righteous priesthood holder who does fulfill his priesthood duties, but has simply chosen a different path that does not include a mission at this time. This does not make him unqualified for marriage. In fact his ability to stand in the face of the strong pressures that surround him make him an individual who will stand up for his convictions.
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What's wrong with celebrating his birthday? We haven't been doing it but I don't see anything wrong with it. It doesn't mean we worship him. It doesn't mean his birth is anywhere near as important as Christ's birth.
I guess since it is two days before Christmas, we should probably make it especially low-key if we did celebrate it, because we don't want to take anything away from Christmas. But that's all I can see that would be wrong with celebrating it.
We would still celebrate our own or someone in our family's birthday if it's on Dec 23, so what's wrong with celebrating Brother Joseph's?
To those against it, I'm curious if you are also uncomfortable with the hymn "Praise to the Man"?
Not really wanting to debate or cause controversy- but I don't understand the need to hold back our admiration and respect for the prophet of the last dispensation.
It would be odd and weird for me to celebrate his birthday, and yes I have a problem with "praise to the man"
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I agree with the quote, President Monson is correct it is a priesthood duty, and worthy young men should be "encouraged" to serve.
How effective will someone be as a missionary if they are pressured into going? Your better off not going. The OPs boyfriend has made the decision to not serve. I applaud him for it. He, his companions and the people he would have gone to serve are better off by him staying at home.
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And I highlight the rest; serving a mission is a priesthood responsibility, it is part of the obligation/duty that a young man has who holds the priesthood. I can't quite recall a GA saying it was a commandment, but they certainly call it a duty and obligation
Not serving a mission will not make him any less worthy to exercise his priesthood or hold high offices in the church and perform his priesthood duties. Young men and women should go if they are in the correct mindset to serve faithfully, not because of pressure from their parents or church leaders.
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Ztodd,
I can see how my comments may be terse and seem harsh. The OP by his own admission is not doing the things necessary to change his pattern of behavior. Sometimes the truth is hard. If his feelings are hurt who's fault is it really?
Let's be honest a mission is not for everyone, it's just not and it does not seem like it is for the OP based on his pattern of decision making.
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The child needs a father. That's your mission if you want to accept that calling. Marry the girl and live happily ever after. The end.
Bonus advice: A baby is not a thing. Nor an it. Might help you with the fatherhood mission to refer to a child of God as a he or she.
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You need to speak to your bishop, you are not the father and can prove it so no worries there...per handbook 1
Members are not eligible to serve missions if they:
1. Are not worthy as outlined in 4.5.2.
2. Would have to leave dependent children in the care of someone else.
3. Have been members of the Church for less than one year.
4. Are in debt and have not made definite arrangements to meet their obligations.
5. Are on legal probation or parole.
6. Are HIV positive.
7. Have been convicted of sexual abuse.
Not your kid, not your dependent. Don't ruin your life go on a mission and if you come back and still feel the same way, well make an honest woman out of her.....
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"whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same. (D&C 1:38)
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People are who they are, think about the jerk from high school, think about the most annoying person you know, think about the most selfish person you know.
The jerk was always as jerk, the annoying person was always annoying and the selfish person was and will always be selfish.
Can people change? sure but this requires a high level of self awareness which 99% of people don't posses.
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Preface of the hymn book says this: "Know that the song of the righteous is a prayer unto our father in heaven"
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You go to school on Sundays?
I am sure that you can find services if you really want to. You are making the right decision by taking charge of your life. Based on what you have told us you need to do this in order to progress. People don't change, this needs to be a life lesson he had demons before you married and he had them after.
You are young with your whole life in front of you. My advise don't be selfish. It's not just about you. You think you know better than your parents but in this case it is obvious that you don't/didn't. They want whats best for you and have your best interests at heart.
At 22 you get to hit the reset button, take this opportunity to examine yourself and your life decisions. Make the effort to do better in the future.
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My girlfriend and I have been doing a lot of things lately that we shouldn't be. We both want to serve missions in a year, but right now we wouldn't be worthy. I've already talked to the bishop, but it hasn't made it any easier to change. I know I really want to go on a mission, but when we are together all I can think about is her body. What do we do? We've set boundaries for ourselves but we always cross them.
You don't really want to go on a mission so you can stop saying that right now.
A mission is not for everyone, and you can always serve later in life with your spouse.
Dump her or commit to her. Those are your options.
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Okay so we have this really sweet family in our neighborhood. Every time they come to pick their kids up if we are doing a babysitting swap or we have them over for dinner or they are just visiting they ask if they can leave with a prayer.
I am just wondering what other's thoughts are on this? Do you think their request is undermining my husband's priesthood authority in his own home? Is it a nice gesture or is it rude?
I can understand this request coming from missionaries who are visiting or home teachers/visiting teachers but neighbors and friends, I am not too sure what to think.
I think it undermines his priesthood authority, I wouldn't tolerate it
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There is a bit of a difference... Lets personalize it a bit... If I were to say mdfxdb was a flawed, imperfect man, who sinned. Well you would probably be a bit stung by it and wonder if I had something against you, but we would generally accept the claims because we all are in the same category of flawed sinners.
However if I were to make the claim that mdfxdb was a alcoholic, adulterer, and racist to boot. Well those are fighting words. You would be well within your Right to demand I prove such things or be guilty of slander (or maybe its libel I am a bit vague on how those work with posts on the Internet). You would have every reason to expect that I had some kind of hostile motive toward you and that I wasn't trying humanize you or make you accessible to the masses. You would more likely assume I was trying to alienate everyone else from you.
I was wrong....I have admitted as much, I will be compliant with the rules, can we please move on.
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Correction, pages of omgasa-something-or-the-other making bogus accusations citing bogus sources.
Like this:
Mormons don't celebrate Christmas - John 3:15
prove I ever stated that Mormons didn't celebrate x-mas
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I will state right now that ALL of our prophets were righteous men I truly believe that to be true. I also think that they led the church to the best of their ability under the guidance of Jesus Christ.
My personal opinions are not relevant to any discussion about the Prophets past or present. I retract any statement that may have been accusatory or slanderous in nature.
Thank you,
Omega
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Per handbook 1 "Worthy single men ages 18 through 25 who are physically, mentally, and emotionally able are encouraged to serve missions. Missionary service is a priesthood responsibility of these brethren. They should be encouraged not to postpone missionary service to pursue educational or other interests.
Single men ages 18 through 25 are called to serve for 24 months. Single men ages 26 and older are not called as missionaries."
This is the actual policy of the church not a GA opinion given in conference.
I highlighted encouraged because that's just what it is an encouragement NOT a commandment as others would have you believe. A mission is not for everyone and no one should feel obligated to go.
I would not recommend asking him to wait, you will be a different person when you return
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Are you kidding me omegaseamaster75? Are you honestly putting forth JoD 10:206 as your source that Brigham was an alcoholic?
Really? And you expect us to take you seriously?
all sources are unreliable to be quoted, this is my belief circumstantial evidence points to my opinion being correct...
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All other evidence is circumstantial I will admit to that, I have my thoughts on the matter and that is good enough for me.
Are you kidding me omegaseamaster75? Are you honestly putting forth JoD 10:206 as your source that Brigham was an alcoholic?
Really? And you expect us to take you seriously?
Omegaseamaster75, you do know that alcoholism is a horrible disease, right? Something that rips apart families and destroys lives? It's not just some silly word to be banded about and applied willy-nilly as cheap rhetoric to support some point.
And yet you seem to believe Brigham was one, and you give the above as your source.
Your reasoning, to put it as charitably as I can, isn't impressive.
Brigham Young was divorced 10 times. your right alcoholism does rip apart families and destroys lives.
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Brigham Young was a great man, a true prophet of God.
You can stick your head in the sand about his flaws, but to me his flaws make him more real and the accomplishments of his life more important.
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1) Did Joseph Smith do some things wrong? Yes, he was imperfect.
2) Did those wrong things include adultery and/or other sexual perversions, and yet he was allowed to retain his prophetic role and good standing with the Lord? No! Give me a break.
1) I agree
2) "Technically" I suppose you are right. This was his argument as well
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That is what I am asking you because you are making for a very changeable God...
I accept that political climate can cause God to give instructions that he later revokes... But I can not accept the idea that political climate regarding race some how got worse between Young and McKay. That flies in the face of everything we know about race relationships for the last 200 years.
Let break it down... First you appear to make the claim that Young is that did the Ban. God let him because apparently the political climate wasn't an issue and God is a hands off kind of guy.
Then McKay come along and wants to remove the ban but God says no. Because now God is a hands on kind of Guy and/or the Church is in some kind of danger in getting out ahead of the race issue. (Really??? seriously???)
Then Kimball comes along and also wants to remove the ban and God says yes. (In a very hands on kind of way from the reports I have read)
That is somehow the easier and more understandable then Brigham taking a problem to God and God giviing him a answer and then holding the church to that answer until God says it is Ok to stop?
examine the history of the civil rights movement and David O Mckay's timing. President McKay may have been a forward thinker and saw the political and social winds changing but was told to wait.
Sometimes when a decision is made good or bad you have to stick to your guns until the time is perfect to make the change.
1954In Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, the Supreme Court overturns the principle of "separate but equal"1955Rosa Parks begins the Montgomery Bus Boycott1957President Dwight Eisenhower sends U.S. Army troops to Little Rock, Arkansas, to enforce the desegregation of schools1957Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) founded to coordinate localized southern efforts to fight for civil rights1960Sit-in at the F. W. Woolworth lunch counter in Greensboro, February 11960Hundreds of university students stage a sit-in at downtown stores in Nashville, Tennessee, to protest segregated lunch counters1960Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) founded to coordinate student-led efforts to end segregation1960Civil Rights Act reaffirms voting rights for all Americans
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Everyone's decision making process is different, and everyone's conversion is comes at different times. We do not know what is holding him back from serving a mission. President Monson's case is relevant because our earliest leaders taught us to follow their examples and serve missions. The mission of the church has never changed.
"Go forth and preach the Gospel, gain an experience, learn wisdom, and walk humbly before your God, that you may receive the Holy Ghost to guide and direct you, and teach you all things past, present, and to come (DBY, 322)."
We can go back and forth about if the OP's boyfriend should or should not serve and if his decision makes him a less righteous man in the eyes of the Lord. I happen to think that it does not, this is only my opinion. God knows our hearts and minds.