zil

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    zil got a reaction from dprh in April 2020 "a hinge point in the history of the Church"   
    Oh ye of little faith!
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    zil got a reaction from Anddenex in April 2020 "a hinge point in the history of the Church"   
    Cushioned folding chairs, of course.
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    zil got a reaction from dprh in April 2020 "a hinge point in the history of the Church"   
    Oh ye of little faith!
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    zil got a reaction from mordorbund in One Big Counter Church Culture Trait We Could Do Without   
    (This is what I get for using a stub nib to draw.)
    (Lamy Al-Star 1.1 stub nib, Diamine Blue Lightning)
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    zil got a reaction from dprh in April 2020 "a hinge point in the history of the Church"   
    Oh ye of little faith!
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    zil got a reaction from dprh in Revelation- How does it REALLY work?   
    Continuation to above: A woman-friend would tell her crying friend to "go ahead and let it all out".  Whereas a man tries to figure out how to make it stop.  IMO, the man would do better to learn to say "go ahead and let it all out".
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    zil got a reaction from Anddenex in April 2020 "a hinge point in the history of the Church"   
    Cushioned folding chairs, of course.
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    zil got a reaction from mordorbund in One Big Counter Church Culture Trait We Could Do Without   
    (This is what I get for using a stub nib to draw.)
    (Lamy Al-Star 1.1 stub nib, Diamine Blue Lightning)
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    zil got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Modern Secret Combinations   
    This is how government documents have been signed for decades, if not longer - multiple pens, all given out to various folk after the fact.  And the US certainly aren't the only ones who do this.  Not sure how this relates to secret combinations - though the sight of all those ballpoints makes me suspicious.
    That said, anyone who's worked closely enough with the US federal government, and who understands the idea of secret combinations, can't hardly help but believe there are secret combinations therein.
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    zil got a reaction from Vort in Modern Secret Combinations   
    I see Nancy's cheap-o ballpoints and raise her three fountain pens (which will not be given away):
     
     
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    zil got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Revelation- How does it REALLY work?   
    And this was my point - the thing I had been thinking about.  Trying to "make it stop" is actually hindering the solution.  You're seeing the tears as the problem1 rather than the solution to the (second) problem.  The first problem (the thing which still needs solving) is whatever evoked overwhelming emotion.  The second problem is the overwhelming emotion, which is solved by venting (whether the venting is tears, physical activity of some sort, raging, sulking in a dark corner, whatever).  The venting doesn't need to be solved (unless it's abnormal for some reason), but rather allowed to continue until the emotion is spent and reason can then rise again to address the first problem.
    1 Perhaps because "real men don't cry".
    That said, I doubt most people have given this much consideration.  I had no choice as two of my characters were having a prolonged discussion on the matter.
    (NOTE: This isn't to say I don't think tears are ever unwarranted, insincere, or not helpful.  In the above, I'm assuming a genuine or normal response appropriate to the emotions evoked by the first problem.)
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    zil got a reaction from SilentOne in Revelation- How does it REALLY work?   
    Erm, is one of them dead now?  Cuz if not...
    (I'm not gonna guess one way or the other what is or is not revelation, just that in addition to all the other ways in which we misinterpret these things, timing and bumps along the way often make us assume final outcome despite the outcome not being final at all.)
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    zil reacted to LiterateParakeet in Revelation- How does it REALLY work?   
    I just studied that this morning. The man is Christ, see the footnote- Dan. 10:5.  (Chapter heading helps)  Christ is also the Iron Rod (see John 1:1 and the chapter heading. Some say the tree is Christ.  The message I get from that is that Christ is with us every step of the way. 
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    zil reacted to estradling75 in Revelation- How does it REALLY work?   
    Heh...   I was just going to say if the roles were reversed... We would be telling the guy to get a clue... stop being all creepy obsessive and that this was a clear NO and NO means NO.
    But it looks like you got there before me
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    zil reacted to Just_A_Guy in Revelation- How does it REALLY work?   
    And even then, I was maybe a little overly harsh talking about tears generally.  It’s one thing to deliver bad news (or bear your testimony, for that matter) and have some damp eyes; but actual crying is a whole other matter. And whether men should or shouldn’t learn to get comfortable with that—the simple fact is that most of us haven’t; and we’ll go to extraordinary lengths to make it stop.  
    (Though I confess that having daughters, and taking people’s kids away for a living, does tend to facilitate a certain amount of immunity after a while . . .)
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    zil got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Revelation- How does it REALLY work?   
    Excellent point - tears as a knee-jerk reaction to a guy breaking up with you (assuming you're not married, blah blah blah) probably is over-reaction and evidence that something isn't right with your perspective.  Good rest of your post.
    Never.  I had recently been considering this issue of "a woman crying is something that needs to be stopped", and responded to that issue without considering the fact that in the described circumstance, tears weren't warranted in the first place.
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    zil reacted to Just_A_Guy in Revelation- How does it REALLY work?   
    I was a little tongue-in-cheek about the “tactic” bit and hope I didn’t give undue offense.  
    That being said—if an adult crying at the first hint of unpleasant news is a normal and healthy, hormonally-based outlet; then so is the tendency towards rage; and so is the tendency to simply avoid unpleasant/unproductive communications—the latter of which, of course, is fundamentally what a “ghosting” male is doing.  I don’t think we should give a pass to someone who manifests a stereotypically “female” response, while making a point of rebuking someone who manifests a stereotypically “male” one.
    I should hasten to add that I don’t think ghosting a good thing to do.  But to be blunt: in all but the most extreme circumstances, crying and raging and abruptly terminating contact are all inconsiderate, immature reactions signifying poor communication skills and a lack of self-control.  We probably shouldn’t be terribly surprised to see that from people in their late teens and early twenties.  
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    zil got a reaction from mordorbund in One Big Counter Church Culture Trait We Could Do Without   
    (This is what I get for using a stub nib to draw.)
    (Lamy Al-Star 1.1 stub nib, Diamine Blue Lightning)
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    zil got a reaction from Vort in Revelation- How does it REALLY work?   
    Maybe stop thinking of it as a "tactic" and instead as a natural hormonal response which doesn't need solving or defending against?  IMO, tears (assuming they're real) in a woman (and probably a male) are generally a release valve for overwhelming emotion.  We all have multiple such release valves, and tears are a more common one in females, but that's exactly what they are.  They aren't something to be stopped or a problem to be solved - they are, in fact, the solution to the problem (the problem being excess emotion which needs release, relief, or expression).  So just let her cry.  Maybe give her some Kleenex® brand facial tissue.
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    zil got a reaction from Vort in Revelation- How does it REALLY work?   
    Maybe stop thinking of it as a "tactic" and instead as a natural hormonal response which doesn't need solving or defending against?  IMO, tears (assuming they're real) in a woman (and probably a male) are generally a release valve for overwhelming emotion.  We all have multiple such release valves, and tears are a more common one in females, but that's exactly what they are.  They aren't something to be stopped or a problem to be solved - they are, in fact, the solution to the problem (the problem being excess emotion which needs release, relief, or expression).  So just let her cry.  Maybe give her some Kleenex® brand facial tissue.
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    zil got a reaction from Vort in Revelation- How does it REALLY work?   
    Maybe stop thinking of it as a "tactic" and instead as a natural hormonal response which doesn't need solving or defending against?  IMO, tears (assuming they're real) in a woman (and probably a male) are generally a release valve for overwhelming emotion.  We all have multiple such release valves, and tears are a more common one in females, but that's exactly what they are.  They aren't something to be stopped or a problem to be solved - they are, in fact, the solution to the problem (the problem being excess emotion which needs release, relief, or expression).  So just let her cry.  Maybe give her some Kleenex® brand facial tissue.
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    zil got a reaction from SilentOne in Revelation- How does it REALLY work?   
    Erm, is one of them dead now?  Cuz if not...
    (I'm not gonna guess one way or the other what is or is not revelation, just that in addition to all the other ways in which we misinterpret these things, timing and bumps along the way often make us assume final outcome despite the outcome not being final at all.)
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    zil got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Revelation- How does it REALLY work?   
    And the guy in white is not mentioned again once Lehi gets into the dark and dreary waste.  Did the guy leave him there?  Did Lehi get excited to tell the tree part of the vision and forget to finish this guy's story-line?  Did Nephi edit the guy out for the Reader's Digest Condensed version?
    (I noticed this just this morning.  Along with more meaningful thoughts, I had to wonder about the guy in white.)
    </derailment>
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    zil got a reaction from Vort in Modern Secret Combinations   
    I see Nancy's cheap-o ballpoints and raise her three fountain pens (which will not be given away):