Rob Osborn

No.

In a sense yes.

God allows Satan because the line is still being divided and the Father is trying to reclaim all that is possible. Once the Father has reclaimed those he sets out to reclaim then Satan and his angels will be utterly destroyed. It's not a matter of if but when. The "when" is most important. Why? To allow people to divide out as they will now that a line had been made.

The way, the path, etc, is the same in regards to salvation unto eternal life. The process itself of entering into the path and progressing is in fact who we are becoming. The destination itself is as much as who we become as it is why we end up where we will. That said, there is only one type of individual Christ can save. Christ can't save the miserable, the weak, the stubborn, etc,. The path of salvation itself is our own willingness to become the type who becomes like God.

All speculation. What isn't speculation though is his belief that we are currently in the Telestial Kingdom.

We mustn't believe Satan when he said he would save all and connect that with the destruction of agency. That's bad on our logic. The scriptures state he very much did say he would save all. But in the very same verse Moses also says he was a liar. Thus we get the real context of what was going on. One of the antonyms of "agency" is "captive". Let's put it all into place then- Satan said he would save everyone, but he was being deceptive in this, he was lying, instead he sought to bring men into captivity and destruction. This is what the scriptures really mean.

I have always taken "father's house" to mean the kingdom of heaven or Celestial kingdom.

That's bizzare. It's the "glory" of God that states what kingdom he is in. We lived with Him there. It was a Celestial glory.

It isn't, nor ever was Satan's intentions to force obedience. He wanted us to fall so that he could rule over us.

Satan is the destroyer. Satan's plan was always to get us to fall and get chained down to destruction. He never wanted to save anyone. He is a liar, he lied in saying he would save all, he never was going to do that.

I have never bought into the belief that evil is required for there to be agency. I think that we have evil here on this world because Lucifer fell. Was it required that he fell along with the third of the hosts so that the plan could proceed? No.

So, what about the city of Enoch that was taken up? Certainly they are still having children, generation after generation? What about the command for us to build Zion and drive out wickedness? Is a city better off to ban porn shops or have them? If we decide to remove the wickedness in our society does the very exercise of our will destroy our will?

I have shown on many occasions that Jefferey R Holland believes we are currently in the telestial kingdom. I have also stated many times that our temple teaches that we are now in the telestial kingdom. I have also stated my beliefs many times that the vision Joseph Smith saw, as now recorded as section "76" was a vision of the progression of our earth and thus why he sees son's of perdition (verse 103) in the telestial kingdom.

The plan was in place before Lucifer fell and there was division in heaven. It's human nature to sin, we don't need an actual temptor. During the millennium Satan will be bound and the conditions will be much more ideal to make good decisions and keep them.

Whoa there, you are making some false claims about my beliefs. I have never taught there weren't three degrees of glory within the Celestial kingdom. I actually advocate that doctrine. Where I differ is that after resurrection and judgment there is only the Celestial kingdom left on the right hand for all the righteous or the eternal hell on the left hand for the wicked. There won't be separate world's of glory for the saved to go to. My belief is that everyone falls into one of two general places- either immortality unto eternal life in Celestial glory or immortality unto eternal damnation where damnation is hell. I also have never claimed that only I received this by revelation. This is just not true. My beliefs is that I put together what prophets have already revealed and teach. That's a huge difference.

All who follow Christ (all of the saved) and who wish to be eternally married will be granted that blessing in eternity.

I would like to propose an analogy. Think of marriage like a college degree. There are lots of people who have college degrees. Certain jobs require this degree but one can still have the degree without having the job. Just because one has a degree doesn't necessarily mean he has the certain job which requires it. So too it is in the eternities. The highest degree of the Celestial kingdom requires marriage. But, just because one is married doesn't necessarily mean they are in the highest degree. Who isn't to say God allows his children to be married in all of the degrees in his mansions? Certainly there is no scripture that states otherwise.

Without bringing that into the equation, all those Christ saves are cleansed and pure. Do you think Christ will save the unrighteous?

Except, in the resurrection all those Christ saves are forgiven and they become righteous.

My personal opinion, we all will pair up eventually in eternity and fill the measure of our creation.

All resurrected bodies will be restored to their perfect orders with fully functioning parts.

Well, we are procreating away, lots and lots, here in the telestial kingdom right now.

Joseph Fielding Smith was wrong, plain and simple. The Proclamation teaches otherwise.

It's true that not enduring to the end results in damnation. But, they aren't saved either if that's the case. Thus, all who are saved reach the destination at the end of the path- that destination is eternal life.

Christ cleanses "all" those he saves from "all" their sins. If clean, then pure, and all pure.