Jersey Boy

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    Mosiah 26:23

    Although it is not widely understood in the Church, in the beginning Jesus Christ participated with his Father in the creation of man, as is amply demonstrated in the following verse from the Pearl of Great Price. 26 And I, God, said unto mine Only Begotten, which was with me from the beginning: Let US make man in OUR image, after our likeness; and it was so. And I, God, said: Let them have dominion over the fishes of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. (Moses 2)
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    Demands of Justice

    Because Christ’s atoning sacrifice of suffering for sin is infinite and eternal in scope and nature, he atoned for every sin that has ever been committed by every soul who has ever lived, is now living, and will yet live until there be time no more. But the immutable truth is that the mighty salvative blessings and benefits of Christ’s atoning sacrifice can only be accessed through living faith in him as Savior and Redeemer, followed by sincere repentance for sin. The only instances in which it will appear AS IF no redemption had made is in the case of those individuals who refuse to humble themselves before Almighty God, exercise faith in Christ and repent of their sins. The only individuals who will ultimately be found in the category of those for whom it will be AS IF no redemption had been made will be the sons of perdition. All others will eventually choose to exercise faith in Christ unto repentance and thereby receive a remission of their sins. Doctrine and Covenants 138 make this last point very clearly. One must be careful to not confuse the state of being so obstinately unrepentant that it seems AS IF no redemption has been made, with the fact that the Saviour did indeed suffer more than adequately for each and every sin that has ever been committed. The great tragedy of the sons of perdition lies in the fact that they refuse to accept a priceless gift of forgiveness, the cost of which has been paid in full by a loving Benefactor..
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    Demands of Justice

    Christ atoned only for the sins of those who exercise faith in him and sincerely repent. For those who do not come down in the depths of humility and repent, it is as though no atoning sacrifice has been made. 5 But remember that he that persists in his own carnal nature, and goes on in the ways of sin and rebellion against God, remaineth in his fallen state and the devil hath all power over him. Therefore he is as though there was no redemption made, being an enemy to God; and also is the devil an enemy to God. (Mosiah 16)
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    Bruce R. McConkie’s Legacy.

    Yes, you are right. 😀
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    Bruce R. McConkie’s Legacy.

    Just as an aside, I’ve been trying to understand why so many people in today’s America say, “No, you’re right” (and other such similar incongruous expressions) rather than saying, Yes, you’re right.” As a consequence, I’ve been trying to locate some kind of English language expert who can explain to me why this strange linguistic phenomenon is happening so often lately? “Am I right in my assessment?” Yes. “If so, is it good?” Yes. So maybe someone can explain to me why so many 21st century Americans start affirmative answers to yes and no questions with a ‘no’ rather than a “yes?’
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    Preserving the Nephite language

    If you had taken a moment to perform a simple search of the Book of Mormon you could have quickly answered your own questions. While on the Church website, I searched the Book of Mormon for any use of the word Hebrew and I found the following statement from the prophet Mormon written a thousand years after the Lehites first arrived in America. 33 And if our plates had been sufficiently large we should have written in Hebrew; but the Hebrew hath been altered by us also; and if we could have written in Hebrew, behold, ye would have had no imperfection in our record. (Mormon 9) So yes, the Nephites could read and write a somewhat altered form of Hebrew one thousand years after their first arrival in America.
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    Preserving the Nephite language

    Whom do you think is confusing the Brass Plates with the Gold Plates?
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    Preserving the Nephite language

    It’s appears obvious you’ve never read the Book of Mormon, or if you have you didn’t retain the information found therein that answers your question. Do you remember anything about the Brass Plates, written in Hebrew, that the Nephites brought with them to America from the Holy Land? If you keep trying to play gotcha while remaining in ignorance of the LDS basics, you’re going to continue to needlessly paint yourself in a negative light.
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    Doctrine and Covenants 7: 5 - 6

    Alvin was baptized. As soon as the doctrine of baptism for the dead was revealed, Joseph Smith had his older brother Hyrum vicariously baptized for their beloved deceased older brother. When Joseph Smith had this vision in 1836 his father and his mother were still alive! Joseph Smith Sr died in 1840, 4 years after the vision, and Luck Mack Smith died in 1856, 20 years after the vision. So what the prophet Joseph Smith saw in 1836 was a vision of his Father, Mother, and brother Alvin as they would be in the future, after the final judgment and the resurrection.of the dead. All those who inherit the celestial kingdom of post-resurrected glory must first be baptized either in the flesh or vicariously after death for the remission of sins. Doctrine and Covenants 76 testifies that the inheritors of the Celestial glory “are they who received the testimony of Jesus, and believed on his name and were baptized after the manner of his burial, being buried in the water in his name, and this according to the commandment which he has given...”
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    Doctrine and Covenants 7: 5 - 6

    Doctrine and Covenants 137.
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    Doctrine and Covenants 7: 5 - 6

    1 Corinthians 15:29; 1 Corinthians 15:40; Doctrine and Covenants 76; Doctrine and Covenants 138
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    Doctrine and Covenants 7: 5 - 6

    Of course they’re still going to be anxiously engaged in the Lord’s work. But isn’t the the original question that kicked off this thread focused on whether or not the work of salvation performed while in the flesh is a greater work than the work of salvation performed in the post-mortal spirit world? The point I’m trying to make is that Doctrine and Covenants 138 makes it clear the work or salvation performed in the spirit world is carried out only by righteous spirits who have not yet received the resurrection, so the verses quoted from Doctrine and Covenants couldn’t possibly be comparing the relative importance of the work of salvation on earth with the work of salvation in the spirit world.
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    Doctrine and Covenants 7: 5 - 6

    What Peter desired of the Lord is to be resurrected to a fullness of celestial glory very soon after death, thereafter to dwell eternally in the immediate presence of God in heaven. This means Peter spent very little time in the spirit world after death, so it’s highly unlikely these verses have any focus at all on the work of preaching the gospel to the dead in the post-mortal spirit world.
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    3 Nephi 9 Repetition

    Your question is a simple one and only requires a simple, straightforward answer. All the Lord is saying in these verses is that the inhabitants of these Nephite cities had become so fully ripened in iniquity that they didn’t deserve to have a even trace of their former existence left behind. The Lord was so offended and provoked by the extreme wickedness of these people that they deserved to not only die in a terrifying manner but deserved nothing less than total obliteration. There is nothing more complicated than this even suggested in these verses.
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    Conclusions from D&C 132: 16 - 17?

    Your notion that it’s only those who obtain the fullness of exaltation in the celestial kingdom who are going to be cleansed from their sins is not true. Even the very lowest inhabitant of the post-resurrection telestial kingdom will have to be cleansed of his sins before he can have the right to occupy even that lowliest of all states of salvation. Doctrine and Covenants 76 makes it clear that it’s only the sons of perdition who are not going to eventually be redeemed by the, glory, power and triumph of Christ. Why else do you think it is that the inheritors of the telestial mansion of glory are going to enjoy the presence of the third Personage of the Godhead and be visited and ministered to by angels from the celestial kingdom?