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Unlike people like you who will always blame him for ills and refuses to give even a modicum of credit no matter what he does to help. Yeah. That's MUCH more virtuous and even-minded.

One more thing that most people (both in and out of homeschooling) may not be aware of is that only about half of homeschoolers choose to do so, in order to provide a religious background for the educational experience.

Elder Bednar offered the following: Whether revelation or the change of the soul, the metaphor is the same. Not all of us are like Alma (either one) or Paul. But it does happen. And if it does not happen, it does not mean it isn't happening.

They make no bones about it. Apparently, Harvard is not interested in Reading, Writing, Arithemetic, and Righteousness. They just want to unleash the libertine in all children.

I don't think I've ever seen such a clear example (in my personal experience) of such expertise in tautology. I'm impressed. As you read the manual, have you noticed that each chapter begins with the counsel to seek out the Lord in understanding what you read and the counsel to RECORD your impressions? If you did that, what were some of the impressions you got for March 2-8?

While I appreciate a sincere effort to help, in this case, you're putting words into my mouth that were never there.

You're assuming that this "Spirit" is feminine. How do you know that? In LDS theology, the Divine Feminine is NOT a spirit, but a glorified resurrected being EQUAL to the Father. In LDS theology, if there is a "pecking order" the Holy Ghost is third on the totem pole (if there were to be a ranking). Whereas our Heavenly Mother is equal with the Father (at the top).

Can you give a definition without quoting anyone? i.e. use your own words. No one else's. Example: Paul would quote as an opening to a discourse. Then he would expound. You've given the quotes. Now expound. In case you're wondering why I'm asking you to do this ... When you ask how the BoM clarifies what salvation means above and beyond what the Bible says, what we're really talking about is the fact that the written word can be interpreted multiple ways. Having a second source of the word of God gives us a more complete picture. With that second source, we can ask if our interpretation lines up with both sources or not. "Clarifying" does not mean "correcting" what the Bible says. It means correcting the individual's interpretation of what is written. Of course, by explaining this, it almost guarantees that you won't be providing any definition in your own words. So again, why do we keep taking the time to answer any of your questions?

There is a lot of truth to this. As my family knelt down to end our fast on Friday night, I had a very special impression about something akin to the above image. I momentarily pondered all the religions of the world participating in the fast. All united. All one-in-purpose for one day. The Lord heard us. It was then that I knew that however this was going to be fixed was going to be by the Lord's Hand, and not by the hand of any man (even Trump ).

It's all coming together. Our family discussed how the Conference seemed to focus on the Priesthood and Receiving personal revelation from the Holy Ghost. That set upon the background of the restoration seemed to parallel the Three Proclamations. God, Family, Church We have priesthood restored to provide the ordinances of blessing and confirmation (Gift of the Holy Ghost). We have priesthood restored to provide for the welding link obtained in the temples of the Lord.

I'll get to that. But I need to draw a line from where you are to where you want to be. So, I need to know where you are first. This is a good "dictionary definition" to use as a basis. But what does it mean TO YOU? Remember, I asked what does it mean TO YOU? What does the word "salvation" mean? When you are "saved" (past tense or present tense) does that definition you gave really make sense? Feel free to differentiate between "being saved" vs. "salvation" if there is a difference to you.

Careful on the accusatory tone. Remember that the Book of Mormon is primarily a record of God's dealings prior to the Mortal Ministry of Christ. The Bible is similar. Look at how long the Old Testament is vs. the New. Then look at the time-frame that it covered. The point the lesson manual brings up is that: Up until the time that the Book of Mormon was brought forth, it was believed that God only spoke with a single people throughout all of human history, and that we have only a single record of His dealings. Prior to His injunction to the Apostles to "feed His sheep", there was virtually no proselyting among the Jews. The Book of Mormon brings forth a witness that God spoke with another people, far away from those in Israel. AND: Within the pages of the Book of Mormon, we find that there are yet other people with whom He had dealings. And we'd LOVE to hear about those people as well. But as of yet, we don't have them. Tell us, WHAT DOES SALVATION MEAN TO YOU? Then I'll tell you what the Book of Mormon says about it. Then you'll understand how it clarifies things. What did Thomas say prior to beholding Jesus in his resurrected body? Then what did he say after?

By "relief" I meant that a we will not be held under a cloud because of Corona. He will soon restore all our lives as we knew them -- but better for the experience.

JJ, I'm going to apologize to you for diminishing your comments. We will be receiving relief. And it will be the Lord's doing, and His alone.

https://theprovince.com/news/local-news/security-guard-in-critical-condition-after-customer-rams-him-with-car/wcm/b63be623-9cc0-457b-a47d-c322884b124c We're ready to end this. There is a certain amount of tension that society is able to handle. When various strands in the cable start breaking, we're probably better off slackening the cable and allowing some danger to take its toll.

A lot of things saying this is on a razor sharp edge. Was she a minsiter? Apparenlty she was. That is not the question. Was the job description that of a minister? That is the question. It hinges on In the referenced Hosanna-Tabor case, the school was A Religious Seminary. Thus ANY position would be adjudged a ministerial role. What we have here with Gordon College is that we certainly hope that such an exception could be made as well. But the judiciary's trend has recently been for courts to rule that The last I heard, this was making its way through many courts with differing results. I don't know if there has been one that has gone to SCOTUS.

TDS on full display:

Well, it looks like we'll never get any real data, even from the US: https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2020-04-08/doctors-death-highlights-limits-of-coronavirus-death-count https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avAxz70JlAE So, any graph or numbers won't tell us anything useful. So, everyone go on and continue believing whatever you're going to believe, because we'll never actually get any facts. (as if anyone was going to change their minds anyway).

Everyone here is all for holding police accountable for overstepping their authority or abusing their power. The BLM movement was primarily founded upon the mob mentality of falsely assuming the police abused their power in the Michael Brown case. It is based on accusing police of wrong-doing based on nothing but the race of the person being arrested. This is why we disagree with the BLM movement. The police officer in the Michael Brown case was cleared of all wrong doing. But ask anyone from BLM, how long did it take for anyone from that movement to realize "oops, I guess we were wrong?" We as the voting (and judging) public also have a responsibility. We're held up to the standard of reserving judgment until the facts are in. Sure, we will naturally make initial judgments. But we always need to be open to correction once further facts are in. The police officer in the Michael Brown case was not only judged guilty by BLM with virtually NO facts, but even when they facts were revealed, most of them still spread the lie that the police officer was guilty. It's based on the wrong cases. It causes people to jump to false conclusions. In the case I posted earlier, most of the facts were in. Nothing about it "didn't pass the smell test." It had nothing to do with race, and everything to do with the actual facts of the case. And we're now finding out that the original assessment was, indeed, correct. But if the fact proved otherwise, I'd have to say,"Oh, I guess I was wrong. Sorry." If BLM has ever apologized for a high profile case against a police officer, I'd like to see the link. I do believe I heard of ONE apology which was essentially a non-apology -- saying in effect: I'm ALWAYS for holding police accountable. I'm NOT for falsely accusing them of anything simply because of the race of the person being arrested.

I understand what you're getting at. And I agree with the sentiment. But I'm making the slippery slope argument. It doesn't take much for even the most reasonable person to be pushed into authoritative behavior if they feel enough of a threat. And with the media and the government both in agreement that this is a dangerous situation, that could easily be enough to push an otherwise very reasonable person over the edge. I realize this was Colorado instead of California. But why was an Antifa group allowed to beat a news blogger to a pulp for standing on neutral ground while filming their protest while the police watched, yet a father was put in handcuffs for playing with his child? What happens when the next populist President is NOT liberty minded, and are supported by Congress? What happens if they are socialist? Boy, I sure don't know of anyone (cough: Sanders) that fits that bill.

I am somewhat of this position, myself. First Vision: 1820 Established Church: 1830 Joseph's Death: 1844 OD1: 1890 D&C 138: 1918 OD2: 1978 Family Proclamation: 1995 The Living Christ: 2000 The Restoration Proclamation: 2020 If we have another proclamation in 5 years, we'll know there's something going on.

Remember, we're NEVER going to become a police state: https://kdvr.com/news/man-arrested-in-front-of-daughter-at-brighton-park-for-allegedly-violating-social-distancing/

There is a series of Books by Isaac Asimov called The Foundation Series, winner of the Nebula Award for "Best Science Fiction Series Ever". In it he describes "The Foundation" which started as an isolated world which was set to preserve all the knowledge of mankind as the rest of the galaxy fell to anarchy. Eventually, the Foundation interacted with the rest of the Galaxy. While the Foundation was originally separated and aloof, their influence permeated all the planets of the Empire and brought them out of the dark ages that would have otherwise taken 10,000 years to outgrow. After hundreds of years, the foundation remained as a separate planet. But they clearly influenced everything. During the early days of the Restoration, we were aloof. We even had a small area called Utah that kept us separated from most of the world. But we've been brought out of obscurity and out of darkness, to the point where we have members in nearly every nation in the world. Each nation that has a Stake of Zion has been blessed by the Church's influence. As for "which stake"? All of them. Read the series and it will give you a better idea of what I'm talking about.

I believe I had once talked about my BIL who had some sickness akin to Job's ailments. Doctors could find no sign of any type of pathogen that would account for this. There was no bodily function that was amiss (like auto-immune disorder). But this happened shortly after he moved his household to another state. He just revealed that he moved because he couldn't stand being around our (extended) family because we were all so "churchy". Now he has taken to cussing out my wife because I sent out a list of scriptures to the family via email. The two of them have always been very close. He always had a special place in his heart for my wife. But here he was cussing her out because of scriptures. It was accompanied by an angry tirade against the Church and their $100B then calling for a worldwide fast about Corona. He called the Church a cult and is doing all he can to bring us out of it. He said many more things which I won't repeat here. But as I listened, it occurred to me that he actually is possessed. I remember @Jojo Bags used to talk about that all the time. I never believed it was as pervasive and common as he talked about. But I always believed it happened to some degree or other. Not only has he done a complete reversal on so many things, but the drastic actions he's taken over the past 5 or 6 years are very disturbing. His attitudes have change. He's a completely different person. He's so easily prone to anger and outbursts. And then this plague he seems to have without any explanation... That chil' ain't right. We had actually fasted for his healing a couple of times. The Spirit told me that it would not work. I believe now that it was because there would have been faith to bring about the requested healing, if not for one thing. He, himself, was resisting the blessing. He did not want it. He wanted to prove we were doing a useless act. He actually wants to keep the evil spirit within him. My wife made a comment about how spirits have been trained. In Christ's time, we saw clear evidence of insanity like "Legion". But these evil spirits have had several thousand year to practice hiding in plain sight. Today, we may have many signs of possession without us even thinking it is supernatural at all. Why bother possessing someone to get put in a hospital, when they could simply get people to do "normal" things, but just abandon good works. I know the reasons people leave the Church are (ahem) "Legion". So, I am NOT saying that everyone (nor even most <-- disclaimer here) who leaves the Church is possessed. But there are times when it seems that it must be something quite different. And when I heard all the details about the recent changes to my BIL, and all the things I've known throughout the years, it hit me like a freight train. He is possessed. I maintain my position from long ago, that members of the Church tend not to ostracize those who leave the Church. They tend to ostracize themselves from us. Yes, yes, there are some who are ostracized. You're always going to have some small number of people who just don't get it. But most of the time, I see them ostracizing themselves from us. I wonder if these cases are because the evil spirits can't stand to be around us. Possession is not always a foreign spirit simply stepping in and taking over the physiological control over a body. It starts with simply "influencing". Poking and prodding. Just as the Lord "guides" us, evil spirits will also guide us -- just down a different path. Just as we can learn to follow the Lord's voice, and eventually become one with him, the same path is available with evil spirits. But one path is what we hope for. The other is one we're *usually* (usually, as in most often, not always, some exceptions, exclusions, special circumstances...I hate having to put so many disclaimers in, even though there are going to be some people who ignore them anyway, so why do I bother?) unaware of the path we're going down.